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Quote from: Word Life on December 03, 2008, 10:33:16 PM
But at the same time I know the league and I truly believe Aaron Trigg is the best player in The CCC.

I wouldn't go that far just yet, but he's certainly top 5

yeah buddy

it'd be hard to find someone better..

Word Life

Please backboard, enlighten me with a player in The CCC who is better.  The kid leads the team in scoring and assists, and guards the opposing teams best player every game.  And I don't think people are appreciating his ability to run the point when he is naturally a 2-guard and hasn't played anything but the 2 until this season.

number1chargerfan

First things first..welcome back "Jim Rome of the CCC" I live for your postings

Secondly..I think UNE is a bold pick to take the championship this year, mostly because of the fact that as has been stated, they lack the down low defense and Colby-Sawyer and Gordon both have the big boys to get it done downstairs, which will lead to an ever so interesting match-up when they play each other deep in the conference tournament. Also, their low free throw percentage should be a concern, if they can't turn that round then it will kill them in the playoffs.

As for Trigg, he is a great player that much is true, but can you really throw him above Wentworth's Todd Doyle? Kid's been killing it since he was a freshman

Finally another word on my Chargers, Matt Lemieux is playing great selfless ball but as shown in the Plymouth State game (dropping 13 on 5 of 6 shooting) he can put the biscuit in the basket when his team needs it. One of the most under-rated players in the TCCC.

dwebbs

It's a slow day at the station, so I looked did some research.

Trigg vs. Doyle. the numbers this year are pretty even. Doyle has the advantage in FG and FT percentage. Trigg is doing better in assists. The tie breaker? Doyle and the Leopards are 1-5. Trigg has led Gordon to impressive wins over MIT, William Patterson, and away vs. Husson. Not a knock on TD, but Trigg's numbers have resulted in wins (Plus everything Word Life mentioned).

backboard

Exactly. Todd Doyle is my choice. He's the best pure shooter in the league and the main focus of every opposing defense.

How about this as a tie-breaker?  Doyle has a championship

scout

A few things to mention in regards to the Doyle-Trigg POY issue.

First of all, while Doyle does have a championship, the POY is given on a yearly basis, so past performance is/should be no determinant in the race for the 2008-09 POY.

Second, Doyle has played against far inferior competition compared to Trigg. Gordon has faced a number of top programs and, still, has produced the stats you see at the moment. Of course, it will be easier to tell the difference once conference play starts, but that fact that Trigg is putting up those numbers against some solid teams in the Northeast is important to realize.
"C.J.: They sent me two turkeys. The most photo-friendly of the two gets a Presidential pardon and a full life at a children's zoo. The runner-up gets eaten.
Bartlet: If the Oscars were like that, I'd watch."
- The West Wing, 'Shibboleth'

Word Life

Doyle is a great player and will be a first team all-conference guard in the league this year.  He IS NOT the player Aaron Trigg is though.  If you want to do a tie-breaker looking into past seasons, Trigg was second team all-conference last year when Doyle was only third team all-conference.  And Doyle didn't have Jon Marstaller on his team to potentially steal votes from him.  So according to the coaches of The CCC, they were saying Trigg is a better player.
Next, and what I think is the biggest factor, Trigg is by far the superior defender.  And what does everyone say wins basketball games class?  Defense.  And just like Doyle, Trigg is the main focus of every team's defense as well, so that is an irrelevant argument.

Lastly, I might have to go with Bajema as the best pure shooter in the league.  The percentages are slightly in his favor, but it is too early in the year to look at any type of percentages.  Both kids can stroke it, that is for sure.

But anyway, in the wise, wise words of Ron Burgundy, some of us may just have to "agree to disagree" for now and see where the season takes us.

scout

At the end of regulation, 50-50 in the Gordon-Endicott game.
"C.J.: They sent me two turkeys. The most photo-friendly of the two gets a Presidential pardon and a full life at a children's zoo. The runner-up gets eaten.
Bartlet: If the Oscars were like that, I'd watch."
- The West Wing, 'Shibboleth'

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Quote from: Word Life on December 04, 2008, 07:42:24 PM
And Doyle didn't have Jon Marstaller on his team to potentially steal votes from him.  So according to the coaches of The CCC, they were saying Trigg is a better player.

Right, Doyle only had Sherrad Prezzie-Blue, the best player in the league, to take votes away from him.  Or do you want to tell me that Kaufman was better?  Then again Doyle was injured all last year so he didn't have the same impact he normally would.  Jon Marstaller wasn't even Honorable Mention last year, talk about over-rated

scout

Gordon walks out of Endicott with a one point win in overtime.

In rivalries, you can't really make any criticisms or outright praises of a team. We've all seen UNC-Duke, Kansas-Mizzou, USC-UCLA, etc... Most of the time, it doesn't matter who has the better squad, the game itself takes over. Those who saw tonight's matchup know exactly the metaphor that has been drawn.

Nevertheless, a win for Gordon and a loss for Endicott.
"C.J.: They sent me two turkeys. The most photo-friendly of the two gets a Presidential pardon and a full life at a children's zoo. The runner-up gets eaten.
Bartlet: If the Oscars were like that, I'd watch."
- The West Wing, 'Shibboleth'

backboard

Congrats to Gordon on their victory.  And good for Aaron Trigg for making me eat my words tonight

Word Life

backboard, that is the point exactly.  Doyle had only Prezzie to compete with for votes, Trigg had two other players and still got voted higher in the all-conference selections.  And if you are going to try and say Jon Marstaller was over rated after the career he had then go right ahead, I won't have to tell anyone how crazy that is because anyone who knows anything about TCCC basketball knows that kid had a great career.

Moving on, great win for Gordon tonight in a great basketball environment...if they can get Salem State Saturday, say hello to the top 25.

number1chargerfan

I'm going to have to agree in full that Doyle had more trouble with SPB stealing votes from him than Trigg did with Marstaller....c'mon guys


Also while a win is a win for Gordon, a one point overtime job against Endicott isn't exactly keeping up with the "great wins against great teams" theme. Perhaps this is a sign that Endicott is better than the 6th place finish they were picked to have. Also, if you're keeping track there at home sports fans they beat Southern Maine who beat UNE. As interesting as this "non-conference" game turned out to be, I'd say Endicott's going to surprise some people and/or Gordon's got a long road ahead so let's not crown them the class of TCCC quite yet, top 25 votes aside.

Word Life

What doesn't make sense here guys?  Trigg was competing for votes with two player, Doyle was competing for votes with one...