WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

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pbrooks3

McCracken has done a marvelous job as a 1st year coach. Also think Hunter has been excellent. I vote Huffman Coach of the Year based on a fantastic season with a scrappy balanced group that I honestly didn't believe early in the season had much talent.  Impressive coaching job all the way around in my book.

POTY should go to Katy Williams, though I think Luetjen and Prewitt were close to earning it as well.

I'll pick 1st & 2nd teams after this weekend. 
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DPU3619

Quote from: Blaster on February 16, 2010, 09:27:32 PM
Coach of the Year - I agree with the three choices, I would say if one of these three wins the tournament, they deserve the COTY.

The balloting for Coach of the Year is conducted before that.  It's announced at halftime of the SCAC Championship game.

Blaster

Why would they announce it at half-time when possibly the Coach of the Year and/or Player of the Year are in the locker room getting ready for the second half?  Seems like a post game event would be more meaningful or possibly half time of the Mens game???

In looking at possible second teamers, I realize that there are a lot of talented Sophomores in the conference which bodes well for national recognition in the years to come, provided they don't knock each other off with parity play. 

DPU3619

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I suppose the men's game isn't a bad idea. The post-game is reserved for cutting the nets down.

The whole thing is never a very large to-do since all but 1 or 2 winners have already skipped town anyway.

The bigger point I was making is that you can't wait to see who wins the title game before voting.


Blaster

Wow, the third regional rankings are in and HX wins two more games and gets kicked out of the rankings???  I guess coaches will have to try to run up the score on opponents instead of trying to get as many girls playing time as possible.  I like seeing girls who practice all week get an opportunity to play some.  This sends the signal that you have to kick someone when they are down.  Not sending the right message in my opinion.  If they take HX out at least put AC in.  SCAC deserves 1 rep in the rankings.

DPU3619

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I wouldn't be too concerned just yet.  Miss Coll lost last night, so they'll probably fall back out next week.  Howard Payne still has a finale left with a pretty good UMHB team. 

Margin of victory isn't a criterion for selection, btw.

EDIT: I'm beginning to wane on a second SCAC team's chances.  Hendrix's S.O.S and OWP are terrible.  Austin's aren't all that much better.  While there's still a lot of ball left to play, even if one of the two gets back up to 4th or 5th in the region, it's going to be tough to have their name called on Selection Sunday right now.  The good news is UMHB, HPU, Miss Coll, & Louisiana Coll all have worse S.O.S. & OWP's than either of the SCAC contenders.

Tennessee_papa

Quote from: Blaster on February 17, 2010, 05:59:40 PM
Wow, the third regional rankings are in and HX wins two more games and gets kicked out of the rankings???  I guess coaches will have to try to run up the score on opponents instead of trying to get as many girls playing time as possible.  I like seeing girls who practice all week get an opportunity to play some.  This sends the signal that you have to kick someone when they are down.  Not sending the right message in my opinion.  If they take HX out at least put AC in.  SCAC deserves 1 rep in the rankings.

Some of this is just math.  HC's OWP took a pretty good hit on Saturday when they played 0-20whatever Millsaps.  As Wes pointed out, one of the teams ahead of them (Mississippi College) has already taken a loss since the current rankings were done, and another team in front of them (either Howard Payne or UMHB) is guaranteed to take a loss this coming weekend.  Plus it's a decent to good OWP weekend for Hendrix since they get Austin and CC.  Of course, they've got to win both.

Quote from: Wes Anderson on February 17, 2010, 10:08:52 PM
EDIT: I'm beginning to wane on a second SCAC team's chances.  Hendrix's S.O.S and OWP are terrible.  Austin's aren't all that much better.  While there's still a lot of ball left to play, even if one of the two gets back up to 4th or 5th in the region, it's going to be tough to have their name called on Selection Sunday right now.  The good news is UMHB, HPU, Miss Coll, & Louisiana Coll all have worse S.O.S. & OWP's than either of the SCAC contenders.

Hendrix is probably marginal for an at-large bid.  I think they probably do it if they win out up until the SCAC finals and lose to DePauw if it's respectable.  Any slip up before next Sunday in Jackson and they're done.  Like you say, the ASC teams that may be competing with HC for a spot aren't in great shape either.  The school with the best SOS/OWP that nobody's talking about but prob ought to watch is UTD.

Blaster

Probably not worth getting worked up about at this stage.  You are right, there is still a lot of important games to play before worrying about national tournaments.  HX still has to play two tough teams this weekend.

pbrooks3

I hold to my original post - DePauw is the only at-large possibility from the SCAC this year; honestly think they'll win it all and this will become a mute point.

Centre Lady Colonels broke away late in the game to win over BSC 73-54. This game was close the majority of the way. Huter led Centre with 15 points & 11 rebounds.
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Tennessee_papa

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Hendrix holds off Austin 64-59 to clinch #1 in the west.  HX lead pretty much wire to wire, but never by much (biggest lead was 9).  AC got within 2 in the last minute but couldn't catch up.

Austin's coach was not in the building for some reason.

Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 19, 2010, 07:42:56 PM
I hold to my original post - DePauw is the only at-large possibility from the SCAC this year; honestly think they'll win it all and this will become a mute point.

The only SCAC team other than DePauw with any shot at an at-large at this point is Hendrix, and I think they probably need to get to the tournament final or else they have no chance at all.

And congrats to Millsaps - the conference website is showing that they beat Colorado College.  A tough season any way you look at it, but at least they didn't go 0 for the season.

pbrooks3

This one Millsaps did win!  Earlier in the season I credited them 1 night with a win against Sewanee based on an erroneous entry on the SCAC website.

Tennessee_Papa, hope you get your wish on Hendrix. I'm not confident they go to the D3 tournament without taking care of business in the SCAC. Great season for Hendrix regardless of what happens from here.

How many posters are tournament-bound next weekend for Jackson MS?  I for one will be there.
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DPU3619

Quote from: pbrooks3 on February 20, 2010, 10:27:25 AM
How many posters are tournament-bound next weekend for Jackson MS?  I for one will be there.

Make sure you have the Steak-Out, my friend.  Steak delivered to your door.  It's my favorite part of Jackson.  If you do, get the cheesecake, too.

Don't know why that's not a national sensation.  There's a million dollar idea I can get behind.  I call you, you bring me a steak.  Remarkable.

pbrooks3

Wonder if they'll bring the steak to the gym!
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Ralph Turner

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Quote from: Blaster on February 17, 2010, 05:59:40 PM
Wow, the third regional rankings are in and HX wins two more games and gets kicked out of the rankings???  I guess coaches will have to try to run up the score on opponents instead of trying to get as many girls playing time as possible.  I like seeing girls who practice all week get an opportunity to play some.  This sends the signal that you have to kick someone when they are down.  Not sending the right message in my opinion.  If they take HX out at least put AC in.  SCAC deserves 1 rep in the rankings.
Margin of victory is not a criterion.

By now, the OWP and the OOWP is beginning to impact the criteria.

I think that Hendrix may be a very close #7 in the region.  If the NCAA Women's Basketball Committees were to rank one team for every 6.5 schools, then we would have seen 8 teams ranked in the South Region.  The extra teams ranked would expand the evaluation in the region.

The SCAC does have one rep in its region, DePauw in the Great Lakes Region.

As for the ASC, the ASC is known for its OWP/OOWP to end up at .500 because the conference plays 20/21 conference games.  I think that the Committee has factored that into the rankings.