WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[roaring0506]

Where do you find the QOWI index posted??

[DPU3619]

Pat posts it over on the Pool C board under Multi-Region Topics.

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=2920.105

[luvandbball08]

To whomever thought that Ogelthorpe's loss had something to do with missing two key players, the size of the crowd, or even the fact that it was senior day, should consider the fact that the first time these two met this season, it was an uncharacteristic game for DPU.

Though OU did get the W, it was on a last second shot.  Which means that DPU came all the way back from a poorly played basketball game.  I am not excusing the fact that the tigers lost fair and square, but I am saying that if you take away all the factors mentioned above, DPU still would have come up on top on this past Sunday.  They are the better team.

The SCAC tourney will be really interesting with OU at the #2 seed, possibly seeing DPU again...a game that will even the score.

I wish i could be there to see the action live!

[FlightofthePetrel]

Luv,

I was not saying that the reason that OU lost was because of those factors... just stating that Depauw had alot to play for that day (i.e. Senior day, Revenge, Playing in front of a large crowd of their peers).  I think if the teams played 10 games Depauw would win over half.  Don't get me wrong, I think Depauw is a great team and I know they will represent the SCAC well in the NCAA's.  You also have to give Oglethorpe some credit.  Starting 4 sophomore's and 1 junior (Corbett is a Junior athletically).  They are a young team and will be around the top of the SCAC for the next few years... it seems certain with Depauw being at the top year end and year out that this will be a rivalry that will extend throughout next 3-4 years.

[roaring0506]

Well... It's Wednesday... so that means two things.  The start of the tournament is two days away... and the release of the All-Conference team.  Last year, the conference added a third team (to go along with honorable mention).  So, any guesses who will make this year's squad?  Rookie-of-the Year? Defensive Player of the Year?  Coach of the year?


Here's my picks for the 2006-07 SCAC All-Tournament Team (in alphabetical order):

First Team:
Liz Bondi, DePauw (Player of the Year)
Suzy Doughty, DePauw
Kendal George, Southwestern
Tori Huggins, Hendrix
Katie Kulavic, Oglethorpe

Second Team:
Ashley Farrell, Rhodes
Anna Findley, Oglethorpe
Bonnie Hicks, Hendrix
Krista Prato-Matthews, Trinity
Cassie Pruzin, DePauw

Third Team:
Gretchen Haehl, DePauw
Steffi Renninger, Sewanee
Biz Richmann, Oglethorpe
Meghan Scholbe, Trinity
Katy Williams, Austin

Honorable Mention (Not really sure how many are) :
LaReina Adams, Millsaps
Lauren Andrews, Trinity
Natasha Azizi, Southwestern
Chelsea Goodman, Centre
Crystal Jessee, Rhodes
Caitlin McGonigal, DePauw
Amanda Morris, Hendrix
Dani Pettay, Sewanee


Coach of the Year: Kris Huffman, DePauw
Rookie of the Year: Steffi Renninger
Defensive Player of the Year: Biz Richmann

Any others have thoughts?

[Borat...NOT]

Just to throw my opinion in the hat...I don't understand why everyone is predicting Oglethorpe to make it to the final (granted, there was one person who said Trinity could win if Richmann and Brooks don't play).  In their one matchup this year, Trinity was clearly the better team.  The game was at at Home and Trinity only won by 5 points but they led by 9 points or so for the last few minutes of the game.  Richmann hit 2 fade away bank three pointers at the end to cut the deficit to 5.  Oglethorpe had no answer for Prato Matthews or Scholbe in the post as they both had double doubles and Trinity shut down Kuvalic and Findley, Findley spent more time crying than she did actually playing basketball. 

One more comment unrelated to the tournament, I got a chance to see Tori Huggins play for the first time last weekend and although different looking, her shot is one of the most consistent I've seen in a long time.  I was impressed with her ability to get her shot off around the basket for someone of her size. 

[DPU3619]

Just to throw my opinion in the hat...

You're back!  Boy, you sure missed the dart board at the beginning of the year, eh? 

Also, you are referencing one specific game in which, truthfully, I don't think Oglethorpe played all that well.  They shot the ball absolutely horribly in the first period (24%) and then actually came back and played better in the second half.  Coincidentally, they outscored TU in the second half.

San Antonio isn't an easy place to play.  I'll be interested to see the outcome on a neutral court if these two do match-up on Saturday.

Unrelated..sort of.. new region rankings are out.

DePauw still #2 in the Great Lakes.  Oglethorpe fell to 4th in the South.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  I don't know whether or not I think that hurts OU's Pool C chances or not.  It might.  I still think they're in right now, but this weekend might have something to say about it.

[FlightofthePetrel]

Just curious about the new Regional Rankings... hopefully Pat or someone else could help clear it up.  It states Oglethorpe is 18-4 in Region.  By my count they are 18-3 with Regional losses coming to Maryville, Sewanee, and Trinity.   Their other losses are Pacific Lutheran (West Region), Puget Sound (West #3), Depauw (Great Lakes #2).  Could this mixup in the number of losses explain how they dropped from #2 to #4?  I see the two teams ahead of them have 2 and 3 more wins... but without loosing a region game why else would they drop 2 whole spots?  Granted they had a close call against Centre and lost big to Depauw, but both of those teams were out of region...    Any help would be appreciated.

[DPU3619]

I believe a conference loss is a regional loss.

[dpufan]

I don't know about if the number of games OU lost in-region is correct; however, I do know that Olgethorpe is in the South region and DePauw is in the Great Lakes region. Their loses to eachother should not effect their regional rankings.

[DPU3619]

Well, take DePauw.  They have a record of 22-3 and a region record of 15-3.  They technically haven't lost to anybody in the Great Lakes region.  Illinois Wesleyan is in the Central Region.  The other two losses are to Austin and Oglethorpe.  Those are both South Region teams.  However, because they're conference losses, the last two are region losses. 

Sounds wierd, I know.  But, it almost has to be that way.  Going by the region listing on the front page, DePauw's regional record would be 1-0 (Kenyon). 

In all my time hanging around people who actually know what they're talking about, I believe games that affect a team's regional record are games in the conference and games against teams less than 200 miles away, thusly making IWU a regional loss.

[Borat...NOT]

DPU, I just had to throw my name in the hat at this exciting time of year.  The stat sheet might not show that Oglethorpe played well but it was more due to Trinity's defense than an inept Oglethorpe offense.  All of Oglethorpes misses were contested and Trinity did a good job of not letting them get many easy break opportunities.  Trinity also forced Kulavic into at least 4 or 5 traveling calls if I remember correctly.  There is no question that Trinity has had a dissapointing year thus far but they have the talent to win the tournament.

[FlightofthePetrel]

Borat... being an Oglethorpe fan I've seen many of their games.  Kulavic averages 4.5 turnovers a game and it seems like 75% are traveling calls, so don't feel to special.

Trinity shut down Kuvalic and Findley, Findley spent more time crying than she did actually playing basketball. 

Granted Kulavic didn't have her best scoring game... the defense could have had a reason to do with that (I don't know I wasn't there), but Findley was 4 of 8 from 3... and played 28 minutes  (even with fouling out) only 2 minutes short of her conference average.  How is that shutting her down?  And seriously... do you not have anything better to do than get on this board and insult young ladies- regarding the Findley crying comment.  Come on, have more class than that. Sounds to me that you're a little bitter that OU is no longer to doorstep of the SCAC and you're actually having to work to get the win.  How come when OU looses you attribute it to "stellar defense" and an "inept offense" maybe they just had a bad game?  DPU had bad games against Austin and Oglethorpe- it can happen to anyone. 

There is no question that Trinity has had a dissapointing year thus far but they have the talent to win the tournament.

Depauw would win 10 times out of 10 vs. Trinity... they are in a class of their own

[Ralph Turner]

Just curious about the new Regional Rankings... hopefully Pat or someone else could help clear it up.  It states Oglethorpe is 18-4 in Region.  By my count they are 18-3 with Regional losses coming to Maryville, Sewanee, and Trinity.   Their other losses are Pacific Lutheran (West Region), Puget Sound (West #3), Depauw (Great Lakes #2).  Could this mixup in the number of losses explain how they dropped from #2 to #4?  I see the two teams ahead of them have 2 and 3 more wins... but without loosing a region game why else would they drop 2 whole spots?  Granted they had a close call against Centre and lost big to Depauw, but both of those teams were out of region...    Any help would be appreciated.

Petrel, please go to the Handbook to understand the criteria that the committee uses for its regional rankings and national commitee uses for the selections.

[FlightofthePetrel]

Ralph,

Thanks a bunch... that helped clear up a few other things I was fuzzy on.