WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[DPU3619]

Two things...

1) All conference games do indeed count as regional games.

2) 

If a team like Trinity or Wilmington stays home and Piedmont makes it to the tournament it would be a shame.

Piedmont and has a better record and regional record than Trinity AND Wilmington, and has played a relatively tough schedule.  Not as tough as Trinity or Wilmington, but still pretty good compared to a lot of schools in the Pool C race.  The OWP isn't the only factor in the selection process.  You shouldn't use just the Oglethorpe result as the measuring stick for the Lions.  The NCAA certainly won't.  I fail to see your reason for driving the bus over Piedmont.

[DPU3619]

Let me add to the last post slightly.  Like we've been talking about on the men's board, I think it's going to be tough for the SCAC to get 3 in.  Particularly if the third isn't making a VERY strong case for being there, which Trinity isn't yet.  Good OWP, but not a great regional record, not a good record against ranked teams in the region, etc.

And like I said on the men's board, the sky isn't falling yet.  We're not done yet.  There's still a month left until the decisions are made.  Let's not hyperventilate at the first rankings of the year.

[FlightofthePetrel]

I wrote a big long schpeal but realized that I don't really have a point other than I think Peidmont's record is misleading. 

I'm not intending to drive the bus over them I just find it hard to believe they are the #5 ranked team in the South... I could be wrong though- the South might be weak.

As far as their schedule goes... I have to disagree with you when you say it's a relatively tough schedule... their conference winning percentage (excluding them of course b/c you can't play yourself) is .408 compared to the SCAC (also excluding Oglethorpe) is .517

To compare I have included below a few of the other D3 conferences winning percentages that have teams in the top 15 or so... I got tired of doing it after a while (I excluded the top team in each division b/c that's where OU and Piedmont are in their conferences... it only seemed fair)

MIAA .413      ASC  .464      WIA  .531      CAC   .480     PrAC  .488    NJAC  .544    MAC   .623  (only 6 members)     CCIW  .461    UAA   .742    LL  .487    NWC  .490

I'm not really sure what you can take these numbers to mean... but it does KIND OF show how each league stacks up... and what kind of teams they consist of and are playing against (overall).  Or it could mean nothing... which it most likely the case, none the less it gave me something to do for about 20 minutes?

Wes I agree with what you're saying on the mens board and how it compares here... and I'm not really fretting about these rankings, just merely pointing out a small detail that jumped out at me.  At least these rankings have somewhat sparked an interest to a recently uneventful SCAC Women's board.

[DPU3619]

Those are great numbers, big fella.  Some really telling information there.  Nice job on digging all of that up.  BUT, unfortunately, it ain't a selection criteria. 

All of that stuff falls under the umbrella of region record and OWP.  Now, while Piedmont's OWP is 80th and Trinity's is 21th, you must also analyze all the other criteria before you start making decisions on who's in and who's not.  Piedmont is probably ranked below Trinity (despite having a better record) based on the fact that Trinity has played one of the toughest schedules in the country.  But, you still must look at the other factors in the selection process.  What's Trinity's record vs. ranked teams?  What's their record against common opponents with Piedmont?   

The strength of the GSAC (or relative lack thereof) does not tell the whole story.  In fact, that's the ONE factor that a team cannot control year in and year out.  Therefore, I find to be a bad idea to pick it out and use it to determine who is and isn't worthy of selection. Piedmont played a tough non-conf.  Oglethorpe, Methodist twice, and a bunch of 13-9ish teams.  There's still some difficulty there and 18-3 ain't bad.

[FlightofthePetrel]

HAHA like I said, they probably don't mean anything... I'm still trying to decipher all the OWP and OOWP information.  Obviously you've been at this longer than I have and have a better grip for the ranking criteria, (I wasn't trying to say that you should use my numbers to rank the teams- only that they provided some interesting insight) so I'll trust your knowledge and go from there.

I look forward to getting another shot at your Tigers her next weekend... any chance you'll make it to Dorough for the 4th time?

[DPU3619]

Unfortunately, my friend, I am afraid not making the trip.  I work weekends, so just picking up and driving to Atlanta isn't in the cards for me.  I'll have it dialed in on DPU radio.

[pbrooks3]

Rhodes is leading Sewanee early in the contest and we have a major stoppage of play - a faulty popcorn machine with perhaps a short in the wiring! The Memphis Fire Dept is on the scene checking everything. No signs of fire, but it'll probably back things up 30-35 minutes. The throng of fans are headed back in Mallory and b-ball will resume in about 15 minutes.

[pbrooks3]

Playing ball again; Lynx lead 19-14 at the 8 minute mark in the 1st half.

[pbrooks3]

Rhodes 25-24 at the half; Clarin has 8; Farrell 9 for Rhodes. Childress has 6 for the Tigers. Only 5 fouls combined for the 2 teams so they're making up the lost time from the faulty popcorn machine earlier.

[pbrooks3]

Rhodes leading with 11:16 to go 38-31.

[pbrooks3]

Rhodes wins 58-42.  Farrell had a fine game with good scoring (24 pts) and excellent judgment and defense (I counted 5 steals). Farrell made at least 4 3's and Clarin chipped in 14 pts, 4 3's as well. 

Rhodes will have to play absolutely out of its mind Sunday to have any chance with OU. The outcome of Sunday's game may dictate whether they make the tournament.

[pbrooks3]

DePauw won rather easily over Centre this afternoon at Senior Day at Neal Fieldhouse. No real surprise. In listening to the DePauw broadcast, the announcers noted that this was a "must win" game for the Lady Colonels to become SCAC-tournament bound. I don't think that's the case necessarily. Actually Centre is in the driver's seat for securing the 3rd or 4th seed in the East. This is on account of their 2-OT win last Sunday at Centre over Rhodes whom they've defeated twice during the season. Rhodes is in the of a  must-win position tomorrow with Oglethorpe at home. If Rhodes loses Sunday, it's a fight between Sewanee and Centre for the 3 and 4 spots. We'll see what happens.

[jekelish]

AC is demolishing Colorado College right now, up 44-19 at the half.  Kayla Redden hit a three with 1 second left to make it a 25 point game.  Katy Williams already has 11 boards for AC.

[jekelish]

AC leads 59-29 with 10:30 left against Colorado College...

[FlightofthePetrel]

If anyone is attending the Oglethorpe Rhodes game, would you mind posting updates- or pointing me in the right direction to finding live stats or a broadcast if available?   thanks