WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

jekelish · February 22, 2020, 08:13:58 AM

Surprise result from last night: Colorado loses to Southwestern. The Pirates will get one more win, in all likelihood, against JWU. TLU has to beat Colorado to keep the 5 seed, as I believe Southwestern owns the tiebreaker. They split during the regular season but Southwestern's win over AC should, I believe, break the tie since AC swept TLU.

jekelish · February 23, 2020, 04:04:56 PM

Offensive struggles are continuing for AC so far today. Shooting 28% with several missed layups, which you can't afford to do against a strong offensive team like St. Thomas. Seems to be a lid on the bucket for the 'Roos this weekend.

jekelish · February 23, 2020, 05:09:09 PM

Vastly better second half for AC but too little, too late as St. Thomas wins 87-78. 54 second half points for the 'Roos, who got it down to 74-71 before a 12-2 run for UST put it away. If AC plays like they did in the second half next weekend, they'll be in good shape. I'm hoping they got the offensive funk out of their system this weekend.

I'm hoping this one doesn't knock AC out of the top 25, given St. Thomas is a 20 win team that owns a win over Trinity this season. Losing by single digits on the road to a high quality opponent doesn't feel like it should equal that precipitous a drop but we shall see.

Ron Boerger · February 23, 2020, 05:19:23 PM

They do play better at home. Last game for one of their scholarship holdovers, Sheridan Hopkins.

From the (more important) regional ranking standpoint, this loss impacts only the secondary criteria, so unless there are changes to the primary criteria for other teams AC may remain where they are.

Ron Boerger · February 24, 2020, 10:26:03 AM

Courtesy SCAC: Women's seeds:

1) Trinity (17-1 SCAC; 22-3 overall)
2) Austin College (14-4 SCAC; 21-3 overall)
3) Colorado College (10-8 SCAC; 14-11 overall)
4) Schreiner (10-8 SCAC; 12-13 overall)
5) Texas Lutheran (9-9 overall; 11-14 overall)
6) Southwestern (8-10 overall; 10-15 overall)

Schedule:

Friday - Quarterfinals at Schreiner University
Women's Game 1 - 5 p.m. CT - #4 Schreiner vs. #5 Texas Lutheran
Women's Game 2 - 7 p.m. CT - #3 Colorado College vs. #6 Southwestern

Saturday - Semifinals at Schreiner University
Women's Game 3 - 5 p.m. CT - #1 Trinity vs. Winner of Women's G1
Women's Game 4 - 7 p.m. CT - #2 Austin College vs. Winner of Women's G2

Sunday - Finals at Schreiner University
Women's Game 5 - 2 p.m. CT - Winner of Women's G3 vs. Winner of Women's G4

I'll be there Saturday and Sunday (AirBnB FTW!)

gordonmann · February 24, 2020, 07:15:00 PM

QuoteI'm hoping this one doesn't knock AC out of the top 25, given St. Thomas is a 20 win team that owns a win over Trinity this season. Losing by single digits on the road to a high quality opponent doesn't feel like it should equal that precipitous a drop but we shall see.

Still good!

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/women/2019-20/week12

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 26, 2020, 02:22:02 PM

Women's third regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-third

Ron Boerger · February 26, 2020, 02:34:32 PM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 26, 2020, 02:22:02 PM
Women's third regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-third

Unfortunately not good news for AC who dropped to 9th. If they didn't need to win the tourney before, they do now as the only chance to get a result v. RRO is in the final.

Trinity moves to #1 on the strength of a 4-2 record vs. RRO.

I know there is another ranking done after Sunday's games are complete; is the record vs RRO based on this week's rankings? With 3 of Trinity's 4 wins against teams at the bottom of their regions it's a question I'd like the answer to.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 26, 2020, 03:43:32 PM

Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 26, 2020, 02:34:32 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 26, 2020, 02:22:02 PM
Women's third regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/women-regional-rankings-third

Unfortunately not good news for AC who dropped to 9th. If they didn't need to win the tourney before, they do now as the only chance to get a result v. RRO is in the final.

Trinity moves to #1 on the strength of a 4-2 record vs. RRO.

I know there is another ranking done after Sunday's games are complete; is the record vs RRO based on this week's rankings? With 3 of Trinity's 4 wins against teams at the bottom of their regions it's a question I'd like the answer to.

There will technically be two rankings done... the RACs will meet Sunday morning to rank and give their "what if" rankings based on conference tournament games still to be played (which cause problems for the committees). The rankings will have vRRO data based on Week 3's rankings.

The national committee will start meeting in the afternoon at some point (both committees start at different times I have found) and they will adjust the rankings as they deem fit. THEN the vRRO data will be retabulated and combine Week 3's rankings and the rankings the national committee settles on. The national committee will then essentially redo the rankings (or tweak them) based on the updated vRRO data. When those rankings are set, they move forward. The vRRO data will NOT be readjusted again.

Ron Boerger · February 27, 2020, 03:55:43 PM

Thanks, Dave - +1

Enjoy the upcoming madness! Not to mention the people blaming you, Gordon, and/or d3hoops.com Top 25 voters when their team doesn't make the NCAAs.

jekelish · February 27, 2020, 04:07:09 PM

Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2020, 03:55:43 PM
Thanks, Dave - +1

Enjoy the upcoming madness! Not to mention the people blaming you, Gordon, and/or d3hoops.com Top 25 voters when their team doesn't make the NCAAs.

Just to get it out of the way... I won't blame anything but the loss to Southwestern, not performing in this weekend's tournament (potentially, but hopefully not the case), and having our schedule wind up worse than expected if AC doesn't make the field!

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 27, 2020, 07:51:44 PM

Quote from: Ron Boerger on February 27, 2020, 03:55:43 PM
Thanks, Dave - +1

Enjoy the upcoming madness! Not to mention the people blaming you, Gordon, and/or d3hoops.com Top 25 voters when their team doesn't make the NCAAs.

I actually had someone on the phone mentioned to me that when "we" make decisions on final four sites for the future ...

I decided to cut him off to clarify it has nothing to do with us.

If I was paid accordingly, I would be happy to make my opinion known and make decisions ... but I'm not even paid.

Ron Boerger · February 28, 2020, 07:07:52 PM

TLU on an 8-0 run forcing Schreiner to take a timeout trailing 31-35 with 5:22 left in the third.

Ron Boerger · February 28, 2020, 07:16:25 PM

TLU up 47-40 after three. Abby Hroch went off in the third, has 8 boards and 21 points on 10-17 shooting. Mountaineers having a hard time getting anything going on their end most of the quarter.

Ron Boerger · February 28, 2020, 07:41:18 PM

TLU will have a chance to pull off the upset on Trinity for the second year running as they slide past Schreiner 73-61. The Mountaineers kept trying to drive inside in the second half and TLU would have none of it (plus the Bulldogs are taller so WTF Schreiner?). Refs definitely let both teams play in the second half, which was all I watched.

Hroch didn't score in the fourth but still led all players with 23 and 9 boards. Gabby Ivarra had 16 for Schreiner.