WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Ralph Turner]

... That HSU win might be a bit more of a fluke than anything else at this juncture.

Come next February and we South Region teams are looking at the Pool C bids, if we don't win our tourneys, that Southwestern "fluke" will be really big.

This looks like it will be a really good season for ASC/SCAC basketball.

[Borat...NOT]

Not sure "dismantle" is the right term there, champ.  Rhodes led that ballgame at halftime and then came about and made a robust 12% of their shots in the second half.  That was less of Trinity steamrolling them and more about Coach Dean's squad not being able to hit water if they fell out of a boat after the half.

DPU, if you go back and look at what I originally wrote, I said it was an HSU team that dismantled Trinity not Rhodes.  In regards to the Rhodes/TU game,  I think its pretty obvious that Rhodes got killed.  Yes, they were up at half but Trinity played a terrible first half.  In the end, they outscored Rhodes 50-12 in the second half, they forced 38 turnovers, and won by over 30 points.  Rhodes shot the ball poorly in the second half but they didn't have many open looks either.  I still think Rhodes will have a good year but on Friday Night they were overmatched.

[frank_ezelle]

From what I saw this weekend, Millsaps has a long way to go.  Most of their good players are younger but they looked clueless out there.  They had no inside presence today and turned the ball over 31 times.   Although the scores in San Antonio were similar, Rhodes is a much better basketball team than Millsaps.   Trinity forced 69 turnovers in 2 games this weekend!!!! It looks like they are finding their stride after a rough start.  Did anyone see the SU/Rhodes game???

I guess being called clueless is better than your description of the Millsaps women as garbage which you used on another thread.  Maybe you should just drop the "...NOT" from your name.

Last year's coach at Millsaps took a job at Spring Hill College in late May or early June and the current coach came in at mid-summer.  With the exception of two players, none of the current players have had any significant minutes of playing time at the college level prior to this season.  With very little returning experience and hardly any new recruits because of the timing of the coaching change, this will be a season with tremendous challenges for the Millsaps ladies.  I expect that they will play hard, continue to improve, and hopefully they will get into the SCAC Tournament at the end of the year. 

[Borat...NOT]

I guess being called clueless is better than your description of the Millsaps women as garbage which you used on another thread.  Maybe you should just drop the "...NOT" from your name.

I think clueless and garbage go hand in hand and that's about the level of basketball I saw this weekend.  Sitting in the stands I overheard a conversation between parents of a couple Millsaps players.  They were saying the team looks totally lost, they have noone to distribute the ball, and they have a limited rotation.  After 2 30+ point losses, and the things I overheard, I think my comments made on this board are justified. 

[roaring0506]

Saw that the new d3hoops.com poll came out today. 

DPU - 5th
Hendrix - RV

Now while DePauw doesn't surprise me in being ranked, its hard for me to believe that Hendrix is receiving votes.  How good is Hendrix?  Yes, they are currently 5-1, but WHO have they played that's competition.  Maybe someone can enlighten me. 

They've played and beat Rust College twice (beat them by 49 pts and 33 pts - I can't find any W/L on Rust, but they've already lost at least 3 against conference schools), Rhema Bible College (25 pts - who after some research I found out were 3-17 last year), Westminister College (37 pts, currently 1-4 overall), and Austin (obviously a conference game). 

They've lost to John Brown, who currently has a 3-6 record.

Yes, Huggins is a good player, but her statistics are extremely overinflated.  She's averaging 25 ppg, but she's also playing against "not very good" competition, and in doing so, playing 32 min a game.  Now, can someone tell me why when you are blowing teams out of the water by 30+ points, your leaving her in the game for 30+ mins?  There's definitely more than 5 players on that team, let the bench see some action.  It says a lot about the class of Hendrix

There's not a doubt in my mine that looking at Hendrix's schedule, they should enter the large part of the SCAC season at 12-1 overall (or if they slip up, 11-2 overall).  It's a VERY WEAK schedule!!

Trinity, even if they did start out the season slow, will get back (and IMO should definitely rank above Hendrix CURRENTLY) into the Top 25. 

[DPU3619]

I gotta tell you, I was really surprised at last year's Hendrix team.  I thought they were going to be much better than they were.  I certainly expected them to be the third best team behind DePauw and Trinity in the conference.  That just flat didn't happen and I still dunno why.

Huggins played almost 40 minutes a night last year simply because Hendrix doesn't have any darned depth at all.  They have 6 guards listed on the roster for this year, and all but one are playing 10 minutes or more a night.  I haven't seen Hendrix this year, but I would venture to reckon it's the same story.  It's not classlessness, they just don't have that many good players. 

When it comes right down to it, they're going to need her in shape to play that many minutes in February.  I'd probably play her that many minutes too to get her in a condition to go for all 40 a night if I knew I was going to need her to do that in every conference game this season to have a shot.

Also, in D-III, I don't think you can blame the schools a whole lot on scheduling.  ESPECIALLY Hendrix.  There's a whole lot of other places I'd rather go than Conway to play a non-conf game. Who's with me?  I'm not sure they want to travel to who knows where to play a decent team.  A TX school like Hardin-Simmons. McMurry, or Howard Payne?  Those ain't a short ride.

Also, they only got two votes.  I can imagine that there were two people somewhere who did very little research and said, "Whoa.  Hendrix is 5-1.  I'll give 'em a vote."  I can also imagine that the reciprocal happened to a 2 loss TU, despite both loses coming to teams in the Top 15 in the country.

[DPU3619]

I think clueless and garbage go hand in hand and that's about the level of basketball I saw this weekend. 

Making friends ain't very high on your priority list, is it?  I've got a feeling you're going to make it an awfully long season around here.

[Ralph Turner]

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Also, in D-III, I don't think you can blame the schools a whole lot on scheduling.  ESPECIALLY Hendrix.  There's a whole lot of other places I'd rather go than Conway to play a non-conf game. Who's with me?  I'm not sure they want to travel to who knows where to play a decent team.  A TX school like Hardin-Simmons. McMurry, or Howard Payne?  Those ain't a short ride. ...

I will cut Hendrix some slack on their scheduling.

They have "SCAC mandated" trips to DPU, Centre, Sewanee, Oglethorpe, Trinity and Southwestern.  Each of those is farther than most of the trips in the ASC.  Next year it may get harder with Colorado College, and possibly BSC.

They have booked home and home with ASC-neighbor UOzarks, independents UDallas for one and Rust times 2 plus a game in the Hendrix Tourney.  Rhema was in the Rhodes Tourney, as was Westminster in a Tip-off Classic format.  The game with John Brown in Siloam Springs was easy on the travel budget.

As for Hendrix "scheduling into" the 20-game schedule in the ASC East, there are not many open dates left for games with LeTourneau or ETBU, much less HSU, HPU or McMurry.

[Borat...NOT]

Making friends ain't very high on your priority list, is it?  I've got a feeling you're going to make it an awfully long season around here.

I'm just trying to give an accurate account of what I expected and then what I saw.  I don't think it helps anyone out to exagerate the quality of a team. 

I saw Trinity play Texas Lutheran last night and it was another blowout victory for the Tigers.  Although the quality of their last three opponents hasn't been on par with that of HPU and HSU, they have looked much more aggressive and confident over the last 3.  Krista Prato Matthews had a great game with 18pts and 14rbs.  It's great to see her getting things going.  It looks like the Tigers have many players who can score. 

[frank_ezelle]

Borat, I think the point that is being missed is that one can say a team is weak or one can say a team is garbage.  It's a question of do you want to give an accurate account or do you want to give an accurate account while also demeaning the other team.  Likewise, to say that Millsaps was overmatched against Trinity would be an accurate account but clueless once again goes past accurate and into demeaning.

That's just my opinion and that was my point from the beginning.  Maybe you simply don't think that calling someone garbage and clueless is demeaning or insulting.  I'll agree that Millsaps is in a major rebuilding year after a season where they finished 8th in the conference and I think it will be great if they just show progress over the course of the season. 

My objection was simply in the demeaning way that you referred to the team and I would have that same objection if you had said the same about any of the other teams in the league.  And with that, I'll drop the subject.

[frank_ezelle]

The Millsaps at Mississippi College women's game this Saturday at 1pm can be heard via the following link:

http://www.espnradio1240.com/

[DPU3619]

DePauw led the entire way and rolled over Monmouth (not THAT Monmouth... the other Monmouth.. the one in Illinois) 90-60 today.

Cassie Pruzin with 17 on 5-8 shooting from deep.  Gretchen Haehl and Meghan Warner with 14 apiece. 

DePauw shot right at 50% and 61% (11-18) from 3.  DePauw had a ridiculous 52 points from the bench.

[roaring0506]

Yeah, the Tigers rolled in this one (and without 2 of their starters in Bondi and Fernandez).

I'd throw out there that Doughty missed a triple double by one point - a very productive 18 minutes for her.  9 points, 10 assists, and 10 steals.  Not too bad!

DePauw returns to action the 16th vs. Wittenberg.

[roaring0506]

DePauw- 27
Wittenberg - 19

Suzy Doughty just became the all-time leading assist man for DePauw with 355 assists.  She needs only 3 steals to also become the all-time steals leader.

DePauw has been bitten by the injury bug in the post, playing without leading scorers Liz Bondi and Jenna Fernandez.  Should be interesting to see how DPU responds with the strength of the Witt post.

[roaring0506]

DePauw - 44
Wittenberg - 23
Halftime

DePauw shooting over 50% from the field.  Suzy Doughty leading the team with 4 points and 7 assists.  Freshman Emily Marshall leads the Tigers in scoring at the half with 7 points.