WBB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

[FlightofthePetrel]

This board has been really quiet lately so I'll add to the conversation.

After moving up a few spots to #27 I think Oglethorpe goes on the road to capture 2 road victories at Bham and Rhodes.

I also believe Trinity will also get the sweep protecting the home court advantage nearing the SCAC tournament.

Depauw will beat Centre (no shocker there) but will be exciting will be the matchup between the men's team, I'd stick around for that!

I want to say Millsaps will upset Southwestern but it's being played in Georgetown so it's hard to pick against them... but I'll do it anyways- Millsaps in the upset special.  Southwestern bounces back to beat Hendrix on Saturday... or Sunday whenever they play.

Colorado will handle Austin easily and Aguste will put up a triple double... numbers that may earn her POTW

Last but not least.... Sewanee will defeat Rhodes (man what happened to this team! I picked them as the #4 or 5 team, I guess Farrel couldn't handle the WHOLE load) for the second time this season before falling to Birmingham on Sunday.

[pbrooks3]

I'll start with the West - agreed Trinity handles both Millsaps and Hendrix in convincing fashion. Southwestern does the same, grinding out 2 victories with superior post play. CC defeats Austin.

In the East, DePauw will bounce Centre without much fanfare. Oglethorpe gets 2 wins. Rhodes splits the weekend by winning against Sewanee (losing to OU). Sewanee loses 2 on the road.

[vozdelospetrels]

Check out the OWP and OOWP on the D3hoop.scom main page. Looks Good for the SCAC.

[vozdelospetrels]

Trinity, DePauw, and Oglethorpe all ranked in the top 60 for strength of schedule

[sewanee tiger]

Since we have one pick for Sewanee over Rhodes and one for Rhodes over Sewanee, I will cast the tie breaking vote in favor of my Lady Tigers! This is a huge game (relatively speaking). If Sewanee wins it will all but lock up the fourth spot from the eastern division for the conference tournament.

This will admittedly be a very tough game for us to win. Rhodes will be motivated to avenge the loss in November, plus they are at home.

[DPU3619]

Check out the OWP and OOWP on the D3hoop.scom main page. Looks Good for the SCAC.

Well sure, but Trinity is also almost 60th in regional win percentage at 13-4 (.765), and that just isn't going to be good enough for them to get in unless they get by DePauw and Oglethorpe in the tourney and win the SCAC's Pool A bid.

That's my guess.  We'll know more when the regional rankings come out, but I wouldn't expect Trinity to be near the top of that list, if on it at all.

[DPU3619]

And they're out. 

1. Howard Payne 19-0 21-0
2. McMurry 18-2 18-3
3. Oglethorpe 17-3 18-3
4. Trinity (Tex.) 14-4 15-5
5. Piedmont 14-3 18-3
6. Va. Wesleyan 16-5 17-5

Trinity is there.  It seems their strong OWP helped them over Piedmont (62nd, .568) and VWU (144th, .530) despite them having better records overall and in the region.

DePauw is third in the Great Lakes behind Thomas More (18-0, 21-0) and Hope (18-0, 20-0).

[Ralph Turner]

And they're out. 

1. Howard Payne 19-0 21-0
2. McMurry 18-2 18-3
3. Oglethorpe 17-3 18-3
4. Trinity (Tex.) 14-4 15-5
5. Piedmont 14-3 18-3
6. Va. Wesleyan 16-5 17-5

Trinity is there.  It seems their strong OWP* helped them over Piedmont (62nd, .568) and VWU (144th, .530) despite them having better records overall and in the region.

DePauw is third in the Great Lakes behind Thomas More (18-0, 21-0) and Hope (18-0, 20-0).

*especially Trinity's win over HSU (16-5 overall /16-5 overall /13-4 ASC, HPU and McM losses)!

IMHO, if HSU beats Trinity in the second game of the season, then HSU is #6 in the South Region.

[vozdelospetrels]

Oglethorpe's regional record appears incorrect. If DePauw and Wilmington are in the Great Lakes Region, and surely COlorado college isn't in the South Region, then shouldn't Oglethorpe be undefeated in the region as their three losses have come to those teams. Is this an oversight or am I missing something?

[vozdelospetrels]

I was thinking that the Lady Petrels are undefeated in region play, and they have victories of the 4 & 5 teams in the south region. Would this have any effect on their current regional ranking, or will this all work itself out in the next rankings?

[FlightofthePetrel]

Voz from what I remember from last year (when I believe I asked the same question)  all conference games are listed as regional games as well as all games played at the home venue.  Therefore Colorado and Depauw would count being conference games and the Wilmington game will count due to the fact that it was played at OU.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this- but I believe that is the case.

Also something else to think about... I think the Depauw and Colorado losses (that were away) are deemed better than if we were to have lost at home, it's small measure but it does help in the formulas. 

It does look good that OU beat the #4 and #5 South Region teams... surprisingly they beat the #4 team very handily and on their home court- that win, along with Trinity and BHAM, could be considered OU's signature wins and might have to carry them if they're not able to knock off Depauw in a few weeks.

[vozdelospetrels]

Flight,

If what you say is correct, then I appreciate the insight. The conference games kind of make sense with counting for and against your regional ranking, however, I don't understand why a home game against a non-region opponent is considered a region game. Had Wilmington lost at Oglethorpe, then the loss would not go against their regional record, so why should it affect OU's record just because they played the game at home?

[vozdelospetrels]

It does look good that OU beat the #4 and #5 South Region teams... surprisingly they beat the #4 team very handily and on their home court- that win

I think you meant the #5 team is who  Oglethorpe beat on their home Court. You were at that game at Piedmont with me, and we both know that the Piedmont game could have been a much bigger blowout as Coach Satelle elected to play much of his bench early in the second half against the Piedmont regulars, which led to a run by PIedmont to cut the game to a 17 pt game. The PIedmont team that I saw that night was not a very strong team they must be playing much better ball at this point in the season because they did not impress me at all. 

[FlightofthePetrel]

It does look good that OU beat the #4 and #5 South Region teams... surprisingly they beat the #4 team very handily and on their home court- that win

I think you meant the #5 team is who  Oglethorpe beat on their home Court.

You're right, I had the numbers mixed up... not to knock Piedmont but I doubt they've improved THAT much.  They are a good team, don't get me wrong, but I don't think they are deserving of the #5 Regional Ranking.  If they played in the SCAC they would finish 4th or 5th.  I think the reason they have such a good record is largely due to the schedule that they play.  With Maryville being down this year the GSAC is VERY weak.  They've played Brenau, Warner Southern, Spellman (twice) a Wesleyan team that averages 26 points per game (twice) Agnes Scott (twice) etc.- not exactly a tough schedule.  Like I said before this looks like a fairly BIG win in the eyes of the voters... so hopefully it will stay this way.  If a team like Trinity or Wilmington stays home and Piedmont makes it to the tournament it would be a shame.

[vozdelospetrels]

Unfortunately if Piedmont does win their conference they will be receiving the auto bid.