MBB: City University of New York Athletic Conference

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Rhodes Scholar

Here's how the CUNY teams rate according to the following formula (applied to conference games only):

home win (0)
home loss (-1)
road win (1)
road loss (0)

1. York (6)
2. Brooklyn (3)
3. Baruch (2)
4. Medgar Evers (1)
5. CSI (0)
6. Lehman (-1)
7. Hunter (-2)
8. John Jay (-2)
9. CCNY (-2)
10. City Tech (-5)

Rhodes Scholar

Here's how Massey ranks the top 10 teams in the Atlantic region through last night's games (national ranking in parentheses):

1. William Paterson (9)
2. Stockton (70)
3. R-Newark (72)
4. York (80)
5. Ramapo (86)
6. Baruch (91)
7. Rowan (120)
8. Brooklyn (125)
9. TCNJ (141)
10. St. Joseph's, LI (154)

THE GREAT DEBATOR

I have some questions for Mr. Massey:

1. How were these naitonal rankings done?
2. What format was used to tabulated these results?
3. Where can I find these results?
(Rutgers-Newark just beat Stockton)

Rhodes Scholar

Quote from: THE GREAT DEBATOR on February 02, 2010, 02:11:37 PM
I have some questions for Mr. Massey:

1. How were these naitonal rankings done?
2. What format was used to tabulated these results?
3. Where can I find these results?
(Rutgers-Newark just beat Stockton)

All of your questions can be answered at his site: www.masseyratings.com

Rhodes Scholar

I just finished looking over Baruch's results and discovered that the Bearcats haven't beaten a solid team since Dec. 7, when they defeated Rutgers-Newark. Since then, they have lost every one of their games against quality opposition: @York, @ William Paterson, Stevens, @ Brooklyn, and SUNY-Martime. It should be noted that all of the losses were close and two were in OT, including a double overtime loss to #13 William Paterson, but they were all losses nonetheless.

Danny Weismuller

I understand it's all mathematical but Baruch over Brooklyn? And if BC beats York, I think they will still have BC bhind York and Baruch.

Rhodes, do the Massey ratings have any input when it comes to ECAC or NCAA selection?

Rhodes Scholar

Quote from: Danny Weismuller on February 03, 2010, 03:48:03 PM
Rhodes, do the Massey ratings have any input when it comes to ECAC or NCAA selection?

The Massey ratings have no influence on the NCAA or ECAC selection process.

BTW the first regional rankings from the NCAA are out. These are the only rankings that matter for the NCAA tourney. The full list can be accessed from the front page of this site. Here's the list for the Atlantic region (overall record followed by in-region record):

1. William Paterson 20-1 (19-1)
2. Merchant Marine 16-4 (15-4)
3. Ramapo 15-5 (14-4)
4. York 16-5 (13-5)
5. Stockton 14-6 (14-5)


THE GREAT DEBATOR

When do the new regional rankings come out again? William Patterson just beat Ramapo. Now Ramapo is 15-6, 14-5 in region..

FYI- the reason why Stevens and NYU have been playing in Atlantic Region ECAC tournament was due to their schools location (proximity to their own region)----traveling miles are to far for them....

BklynBasketball

Quote from: THE GREAT DEBATOR on February 04, 2010, 07:55:03 AM


FYI- the reason why Stevens and NYU have been playing in Atlantic Region ECAC tournament was due to their schools location (proximity to their own region)----traveling miles are to far for them....

That doesnt seem to make any sense to me though. If you're in the East, you should play in the East ECAC, if you're playing in the Atlantic ECAC due to location than essentially you're in the Atlantic and should be classified as such.

Additionally, if you're an East team who plays in the Atlantic ECAC you are stealing spots from potential Atlantic teams who could and should be in the Atlantic ECAC, you're not supposed to be there. ???

Knightstalker

Quote from: BklynBasketball on February 04, 2010, 08:52:31 AM
Quote from: THE GREAT DEBATOR on February 04, 2010, 07:55:03 AM


FYI- the reason why Stevens and NYU have been playing in Atlantic Region ECAC tournament was due to their schools location (proximity to their own region)----traveling miles are to far for them....

That doesnt seem to make any sense to me though. If you're in the East, you should play in the East ECAC, if you're playing in the Atlantic ECAC due to location than essentially you're in the Atlantic and should be classified as such.

Additionally, if you're an East team who plays in the Atlantic ECAC you are stealing spots from potential Atlantic teams who could and should be in the Atlantic ECAC, you're not supposed to be there. ???

The ECAC only uses four geographical regions, New England, Upstate, Metro and South.
http://www.ecacsports.com/sports/winter/mbkb/Championships/PastChampionsIII

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

Rhodes Scholar

Here's a list of CUNYAC players who rank in the top ten in various statistical categories nationally (through games of 1/31/10):

Points per game
6. Gabriel Davis, City Tech (22.9)

Three point field goals per game
3. Nick Hamilton Lopez, York (3.6)
4. Ryan Hennessey, CSI (3.5)

Rebounds per game
1. Marcel Ensonwune, York (15.3)

Blocks per game
4. Marcel Ensonwune, York (3.3)

Steals per game
10. Ryan Exum, York (2.9)

mecfan

Medgar Evers 68 @ York 56 :o
Was at game.  No fluke, MEC took over in the last 15 min of game.

Danny Weismuller

York leaves the door wide open for BC to take the crown.

Looked at the box score. Looks like both teams shot terribly.
Lopez had a bad game, was in foul trouble and Marcel received a tech.

Did ME pick up anybody new? or did they just outplay them? Could be the dark horse in the CUNY tourney.

Queens

I been saying it all year Medgar coach should get Coach of the Year.  This team has been a joke the last bunch of years and in one year he has made this team a legitmate team. 

Some interesting things about this game just based on the box score.

Exum 5 fouls
NHL (hamilton lopez) 4 fouls

york 5 for 20 from the foul line and 3 for 15 from the three.

Medgar 22 for 25 from the line.

Medgar will be a dangerous team from the 5 to 7 slot

CunyBall

Medgar is definitely looking good going into playoffs..Yesterday was a big win for them. I attended the game yesterday and was shocked how Medgar shutdown Yorks two best players. ME has all elements to sneak a Cuny Championship. Holloway is a streaky scorer but when hes on, he can put up some numbers. Sharpe is playing like the senior leader they need him to be. They had a Kid who came off the bench (baserath?) who locked Lopez down. He was in his chest the whole game. There solid inside, they actually outrebounded York to everyones surprise. York wasnt ready for what hit them. I believe Cuny is wide open this year, very competitive conference now especially with ME stepping up to the Challenge. The Coach of Medgar deserves the coach of the year.