MBB: City University of New York Athletic Conference

[Queens]

Does anyone else have a problem with a player from a team with 1 getting first team all conference?

[Rhodes Scholar]

Does anyone else have a problem with a player from a team with 1 getting first team all conference?

Not really. It's an individual not a team award. I have more of a problem with having six players on the second team.

Here are the match-ups for Saturday Feb. 20th
#1 York vs. #8 CCNY
#2 BC vs. #7 Lehman
#3 Baruch vs. #6 CSI
#4 Hunter vs. #5 Medgar Evers

Top 4 have home games!!!! Who makes it to 2nd round?

Any upsets?

Medgar Evers @ Hunter should be the most competitive matchup. Hunter beat Medgar 85-81 @ Hunter earlier in the season. I can't imagine York having much trouble with City. The Cardinals beat them by 12 at City during the regular season. Baruch beat CSI by 6 on the road in the regular season. And Brooklyn beat Lehman 75-68 @ Lehman earlier.

[mecfan]

#7 Lehman should beat #2 Brooklyn because they somehow got 2 players as all CUNY performers to BK's one How do you have 2 of the best players in the league and come in 7th   Who votes for these teams? Guys with 1 and 2 wins all season on there!! What message are you sending for future players who aspire to make this team?  Just get yours even if you lose by 30 every night its ok.  What about the kid who could score 25 every night but has sacrificed for the betterment of his team?

[Danny Weismuller]

I think York and Brooklyn should come away with W's.
In the other games,  I wouldn't be surprised who wins.

Medgar has been playing much better and CSI had Baruch beat but missed a few foul shots with seconds left, later losing in OT. (but Kunkel didn't play, so there goes that theory)
Possibility of a South division sweep in the first round?  
Probably has never happened before.

No surprises at the CUNY awards, I think they got everything right.
Would of liked to see Amil John on that list (especially when Lehman gets two guys) but I'm thinking he'll be there next year.
Curious if Marcel will be named All-american.

[cunybasketball]

I agree with you MEC Fan and Queens,

4 of the players selected to the first and second team all CUNY came off of 3 teams that had a combined record of 11 Wins and 64 Losses. That is a joke.Theres about 3-4 other deserving players with just as good stats that were on better teams in the CUNY that should have been selected.  They need to change the selection criteria.  If your team is getting smacked by 20-30 points everynight someone in the line up has to score 25-30 points.  Disgrace!!!
I got an idea...
1. If your team does not win more than 5 games for the season no players are allowed to be nominated for all CUNY.
2. If your team does not win more than 10 games for the season only 1 player will allowed to be nominated for all CUNY.

[Queens]

Amil John, Ryan Exum, Chris Beauchamp all deserve to be on all conference teams.  You have vaugnh mason, garvin and Dejesus making all conference team on bad teams.  Does anyone really think that Gavin is better than Exum?  Exum guards the best player on the other team and is essential to Yorks team who came in first place.  Without Exum who knows where York is this season.  Amil John is the spark plug for brooklyns team, another GREAT defender and play maker.  The second best player on brooklyn who came in 2nd place.  Chris Beauchamp another great defender who guards the other teams best player and is one of Baruchs top scorers who came in 3rd place.  The coaches need to stop looking at whose the top scorer and start looking at the players themselves.  Being on a good team should play a factor on if you make all conference teams. 

All three players mentioned would score 20 pts a game on City Tech or John Jay.  The coaches need to do a better job voting.

[Danny Weismuller]

Queens,
I agree on all fronts. You probably picked out the three guys which deserved to get some recognition.

I believe the coaches vote on these teams, which would probably make a coach prejudice towards their on own division. Besides POY and ROY you have more representation from the North than the South (6 to 5). Which is a joke... you could make the argument that 4 of the top 6 teams are from the South.

[THE GREAT DEBATOR]

Top 4 teams advance. Marcel had another triple doulble: 24pts/18rebs/11 blks. Nick had nine 3pters. Ryan had 12 assists..
York vs. Hunter
Brooklyn vs. Baruch

[Zak]

Hmmm...interesting thoughts about the admission standards at various schools. Clearly there are some exceptional, high-caliber academic institutions which are private and require A LOT for admission. It is also clear to me that I am not talking about those schools. There is a huge number of institutions of higher learning who survive on meeting their quota, or number of students that pay their tuition in order for the college to operate on a certain level.
The private schools, and maybe I see a lot of them in this area and Pat is (perhaps) rightfully objecting to me making it a national argument and the 80% part...however, we can go down the list of private schools and apply to these schools and get it with subpar grades because you are paying the tuition outright...these schools LOVE kids who are paying the full and very high tuition costs. Again, the 10-20% of privates with awesome standards and reputations are not in this conversation!
If you still think I am wrong, so be it...but apply to ALL privates in the nation that cost above $30K and don't check off that you are seeking financial aid and that you are willing to pay the full tuition with let's say a subpar HS average of 78, and let's see if my theory is still as wrong as some of you claim!
It's not disparaging at all to say that, it's economics!

[Zak]

BTW, can't wait for Tuesday's semifinal games at CCNY.

PS - The alumni event at Hunter next Friday will have a reception in the West Building lobby for ALL former CUNY student-athletes in ALL sports at 6 pm. Then starting at 7:30 pm we will have two alumni basketball games (sprinkling in a few "celebritites" or friends) bringing back some of the best that ever played in CUNY as well as the current student-athletes 3-pt. shootouts (male and female). Hope to see you all there! Kindly respond to cunyathleticconference@yahoo.com with your information (Name, school, sport, year of graduation, shirt size) so that you may receive your gift. Zak 

[xalva66]

I saw Hunter play against Medgar Evers on Saturday. I cant wait to see Marcel matchup with the big guy from Hunter.

[BklynBasketball]

Ensonwune (sp?) and Baptiste can both play at the d1 level. Would they produce the way they do now? Certainly not, but there are plently of MEAC, NEC and MAAC players who they can compete with.

As to why theyre at division 3 schools? there are so many other factors outside of just the bball. Some guys dont want to put in the work at the d1 level which takes much more dedication, some dont like the schools and love the d3 school, they FIT IN better and like it better.

To say that these guys dont have the TALENT, the raw talent to play at that level is incorrect in my book. There are guys, especially in the city and then also the midwest conferences who could play d1 ball.

Past guys who come to mind who can compete at that level:
Neil Edwards
Damien Santana
Arjun Ohri(Poly - NJIT)
Shahee Martin
Rocco Rubino obviously

there are alot more i just have to think, which hurts. 

[xalva66]

Yeah and a guy called Shawn McCartney.

[Zak]

CUNY Semifinals on Tuesday at CCNY;

5:30 pm - #1 York vs #4 Hunter
7:30 pm - #2 Brooklyn vs #3 Baruch

Friday, Alumni Reception and Basketball Games at Hunter (+ 3-pt. shootout for current SAs).
Scheduled to play; CUNY's all-time scoring leaders Shawn McCartney & Lauren Cargill, plus some of the best to ever play from each school.

Saturday at CCNY; Men's Final at 5 pm. Game will be televised by Time Warner Cable.

[Rhodes Scholar]

I saw Hunter play against Medgar Evers on Saturday. I cant wait to see Marcel matchup with the big guy from Hunter.

I wonder if Hunter's big guy shares your sentiments.

If Hunter beats York it will be their first appearance in the conference championship game since 1998. York's the clear favorite but Hunter played them close in the regular season, losing by only three points (68-65) at York on Jan. 23.