MBB: City University of New York Athletic Conference

cunybasketball · January 08, 2010, 08:05:48 AM

Queens,
I agree with you when you said Klingsberg is over shadowed by Rubino and DuBois and he does seem disinterested at times when on the court. Hunter lacks a inside presence; hopefully their mid-season pickup will help them out around the glass. If Hunter wants be in the CUNY Championship Running they must learn to play as a team and form chemistry...
Baruch should definitely be ranked in the Top 25 or even honorable mention. They are solid, they play TEAM Ball and they work well as an unit.
CUNY teams get no respect.

knight_life · January 08, 2010, 04:29:26 PM

Klingsberg is a hell of a talent, great shot, drives to the hoop without hesitation and is solid from the line, but I have noticed his disinterest on the court. Not sure why someone with his talent would not want to be out there, but then again, could just be how he is, I never saw him play in high school, so do not have anyway to compare.

Rubino and Dubois seem to trade off nights, earlier int he season Rubino was very impressive, then when he got shut down, Dubois went off for 25+. I agree with everyone, Hunter is one or two more players away from having a legit contender. This new kid might help, but I would think if they retain, we'll be talking about Hunter more next season than this one.

@Queens: Trust me, as I know Frantz pretty well, he wishes he could still be out there as well. He would have made this team so much better, plus add the leadership they lack. Its never easy for anyone when you've used up your four years, but its good to see he's not forgotten on the board, the kid had a ton of heart.

Rhodes Scholar · January 11, 2010, 01:37:50 PM

Queens: Nice to see that you finally acknowledged Klingsberg. And you may even be right that he needs to be a bit more focused and intense.

Hamilton-Lopez played Saturday against CSI so he should be ready to go against Baruch. This should be one of Baruch's toughest CUNYAC matchups this season. It'll be interesting to see how York's edge in athleticism plays out tonight. Baruch's definitely the favorite, but the Bearcats could have some trouble with the Cardinals.

Queens · January 11, 2010, 11:33:06 PM

Baruch loses to York by 4.

Hamilton Lopez 30 pts

Esonwnue 19 pts 16 rebounds 4 blocks.

It was a very exciting game that York led the whole way. Baruch could never get over the hump in the 2nd half having the game as close as 3 several times. Hamilton Lopez was unconsicious hitting shots from well beyond NBA range. One of the best performances ive seen all season.

Hilaire from baruch had 27 points and hit alot of tough shots. York was the better team tonight and i think these are the best two team in the conference. This will be an exciting championship game. ( Brooklyn fans dont get bent out of shape your the defending champs and you will be more than a big factor when the time comes.)

Danny Weismuller · January 12, 2010, 08:27:03 AM

Quote from: Queens on January 11, 2010, 11:33:06 PM

Hilaire from baruch had 27 points and hit alot of tough shots. York was the better team tonight and i think these are the best two team in the conference. This will be an exciting championship game. ( Brooklyn fans dont get bent out of shape your the defending champs and you will be more than a big factor when the time comes.)

The Lopez kid is sneaky, you don't think he's going to put up points and out of no where he drops 20.

What is your spread when Brooklyn plays Baruch? Last year, they gave it to Baruch pretty good in the championship game. And their regular season game came down to the last second. I'm thinking BC/Baruch is a pick'em right now.

Queens · January 12, 2010, 11:33:14 AM

Lopez is hands down the best shooter in the league and he probably is the most arrogant as well. When he gets going with the combination of Esonwnue down low its deadly. If he plays like he did last night they will be extremely hard to beat. York has a very nice team.

I'm yet to see brooklyn play this year or see brooklyns new gym ( i heard its really nice) im going to try and make it to their game saturday vs Hunter.

Baruch should be the favorite vs Brooklyn BUT, brooklyn seems to step there game up vs Baruch and i dont think it would be far fetched for me to say they have that game circled on their calender. Baruch has beat a bunch of teams that Brooklyn has lost to. Should be another excellent game and another one that is a must see. I would make the spread a Pick em as well.

Rhodes Scholar · January 12, 2010, 12:37:17 PM

I went to the Stockton @ Hunter game last night, which the Ospreys won 99-90. Hunter led for much of the game and was up by 7 at the break. The Hawks trailed by only 2 with 2 minutes to go. It was a very tough loss for Hunter, but Stockton seized the momentum in the second half and played with greater poise and confidence down the stretch.

Courtien, DuBois and Klingsberg all put in solid efforts for Hunter. The Hawks had better ball movement in the first half but reverted to more one-on-one play in the closing stanza, which made them less effective.

Stockton got an outstanding performance from Omar Smith, who was too much down low for the Hawks. Point guard Santini Lancioni also played well as did Michael Farrow, who threw down a couple of serious dunks.

I also got my first look at Hunter's 6-10 Greek import and Queens' sources were correct: He is a project. He has a very wide body to go with the height and reminds me of former New York Net backup center Ron "Lurch" Taylor.

cunybasketball · January 12, 2010, 02:01:11 PM

I saw the York vs Baruch games last night. York played a great game last night (anyone know what happened to Phipps)? Lopez hit some tough shots and probably had his best game of the season. Marcel played solid controlling the paint as usual. I am not surprised that York beat Baruch....Lopez and Marcel are a deadly combo....
As for the CUNY conference it is all about Team Match-Ups....Certain teams match up better with others...
I know Huter's play is very inconsistent; however, I still would not count them out of the equation for the CUNY running. They have a lot of weapons and they have been hanging with very good experienced teams so far...Once they establish constistency they are going to be tough...
Hunter @ Brooklyn game this Saturday and next Wednesdays game York @ Hunter will be a good test to see where Hunter stands in the conference.
Rhodes-I saw the box score of the Hunter-Stockton game and noticed that there were 4 technical fouls issued throughout the game 3 for Hunter and 1 for Stockton...Were the referees that bad on both sides? You have any feedback....?

Rhodes Scholar · January 12, 2010, 02:11:09 PM

Quote from: cunybasketball on January 12, 2010, 02:01:11 PM

Rhodes-I saw the box score of the Hunter-Stockton game and noticed that there were 4 technical fouls issued throughout the game 3 for Hunter and 1 for Stockton...Were the referees that bad on both sides? You have any feedback....?

There were definitely some questionable calls, but I don't think the refs cost Hunter the game. One of Hunter's assistant coaches got hit with a T right after the first half ended and Plevritis got a double technical near the end of the game. I'm sure he was very frustrated because Hunter led for much of the way only to come up short.

Queens · January 12, 2010, 08:44:11 PM

Plevritis has to lead the country in technicals. Every time i see a game he gets T'ed up. Needs to learn how to control himself, not good to have that kind of rep from all the officals.

CUNYBasketball- your right about Hamilton Lopez and Marcel being a deadly combo but you need to relax with this hunter talk. Marcel might get 30 and 30 vs Hunter. There will be absolutely no resistance for him downlow. York will beat hunter by 20+. True they have alot of weapons but they dont play as a team and you can forget about Rubino, Dubios and Klingsberg getting to the basket because marcel is going to be camping out in the paint because he doesnt have to worry about covering any of Hunters big men. Marcel is an absolute beast and changes the game offensively and defensively. Hands down Player of the year in my opinion.- Thoughts?

PS- Rhodes my sources are never wrong

cunybasketball · January 13, 2010, 08:58:32 AM

Queens..."your right about Hamilton Lopez and Marcel being a deadly combo but you need to relax with this hunter talk. Marcel might get 30 and 30 vs Hunter. There will be absolutely no resistance for him downlow. York will beat hunter by 20+. True they have alot of weapons but they dont play as a team and you can forget about Rubino, Dubios and Klingsberg getting to the basket because marcel is going to be camping out in the paint because he doesnt have to worry about covering any of Hunters big men. Marcel is an absolute beast and changes the game offensively and defensively. Hands down Player of the year in my opinion.- Thoughts?"

Queens: I agree with you on Marcel being named the player of the year....Without a question the kid is the best big man in the Atlantic Region-Top 3 in D3..I am not sure where you came up with the 20 point spread on the Hunter/York game...? I have to disagree with you on that one.... You are talking like York is a nationally ranked team who lost 1 or 2 games.....They are good; however, they are not 20 points better than Hunter....In my opinion the spread will be no more than 10....I would not be surprised if Marcel gets 30 and 20 vs. Hunter....However, there is no way that Lopez will get off like he has vs. the Hunter backcourt....It will be an interesting game....
Queens/Rhodes...What are your predictions on the Brooklyn/Hunter Game this Saturday?

xalva66 · January 13, 2010, 09:26:49 AM

Plevritis has to lead the country in technicals. Every time i see a game he gets T'ed up. Needs to learn how to control himself, not good to have that kind of rep from all the officals.

Haha thats actually quite funny. I stopped going to games a while ago because my friend had graduated but some of those officials have always seemed a bit unfair. There is one thing to be bad but to make one call down one end and then not making the same call down the other must be what frustrates him. I remember when Coach Plevritis would argue and point to both ends of the floor while arguing which to me seems like calls are being made on one side but the same exact call is not being made the other way (ie a charge foul where a player slides in under the airborne shooter being called a charge on one end and then on the other end its being called a Block).

Rhodes Scholar · January 13, 2010, 11:40:57 AM

Quote from: Queens on January 12, 2010, 08:44:11 PM
Marcel is an absolute beast and changes the game offensively and defensively. Hands down Player of the year in my opinion.- Thoughts?

At this point in the season, Esonwune is the clear front runner. He's put up tremendous numbers and has a clear edge over Baptiste.

Quote from: cunybasketball on January 13, 2010, 08:58:32 AM
Queens/Rhodes...What are your predictions on the Brooklyn/Hunter Game this Saturday?

I think Brooklyn is the favorite. Hunter is a notch (or two) below the top three (Baruch, Brooklyn and York).

Queens · January 13, 2010, 11:59:49 AM

Im not saying the referreeing is not awful at times but once you get that rep among the referees its hard not lose it. Plevritis is notorious for when the game is out of hand just losing control and getting a T. Just saying its not a good rep to have with the refs.

I didnt say the spread was 20 i think York will beat them by 20+. Heres my logic Baruch beat Hunter by 15 @ HUNTER. Baruch big man 23 pts 10 for 10 from the field! Baruchs big man vs York 0-1 0 points. Saw Hunter vs NYU, NYU's big man another monster game 20+ pts and a ridiculous field goal percentage. Marcel WAYY better than both of these players. Also, you cannot sleep on Hamilton Lopez, Rubino is better than any guard on baruch but as whole Baruch 3 guard front is better overal. And the best 1-2-3 combo in the league. All three of there guards are underrated in the conference and all have terrific skills.

Danny said it best he doesnt look like much than all of sudden hes got 20 on you. The kid is averaging 20 pts a game i believe thats more than anyone on hunter.

When it comes to the Hunter Brooklyn game i think it will be a much better game than Hunter York. Brooklyn is still the Favorite in this one for sure but i wouldnt be surprised if Hunter pulled this one out. Hunter needs to beat someone, there getting close but cant seem to seal the deal.

P.S- Love the chatter on the boards

cunybasketball · January 13, 2010, 02:57:38 PM

Queens-I will definitely agree with you when you say that Hunter needs to beat someone...The only descent team that they beat was Scranton....They usually play 20-30 minutes of good basketball then fall apart....However, Hunter does not match well vs. Marcel...But I feel Hunter's backcourt will give York's backcourt trouble....York plays similar ball to the NJAC schools....Hunter plays better vs. athletic fast paced teams such as the NJAC teams---have they closed the deal against any of those teams-NO....But, I feel Hunter will give York a good game.. Hunter has a tough time vs. smart and patient offensive teams such as Baruch and NYU...I guess we will see next week if York will win by 20+...
As for the referees-the CUNY may have the worst referees in the country....