MBB: City University of New York Athletic Conference

[Coach AG]

Hey Danny whats up homie? I see u have some great post on here.  To the guy that said Hunter was going to beat CSI, wrong again.  Besides Rankis , Coach Petosa should also be noted for recruiting 4 year players who all contribute by at least there senior year. He also makes sure that a majority of them graduate on time.  Since someone said not much is said about CSI on here I will do my best to feel that void since I live on the Island.

[Queens]

Yea my predictions days are over.  Good thing no one takes actual bets on CUNY basketball or i would be broke.

But Hunter has to be kidding me.  Losing to CSI? I've seen CSI play this year, and this shouldnt have happened.   This game was at Hunter as well.

Knight Life what happened?

[Coach AG]

Why do you keep bashing CSI? They have steadily got better throughout the course of the year. They also have two legit bigmen in Young and Ledbetter and when Hennesey and Montervino are hitting threes they are very dangerous.  It should also be noted that their improved play has probably been do to the fact that their pt. guard Taranto has stepped up his game nearly getting a triple double in a recent win against Kean.  I know their not the most athletic team but they play well together and share the ball.  They should at least get a 4 seed for the tourney.

[Rhodes Scholar]

Yea my predictions days are over.  Good thing no one takes actual bets on CUNY basketball or i would be broke.

Nostradamus, I mean Queens, it might be time to turn in your crystal ball after all.

My statement is not off base about the academics bklyn, its right on the money.  Any coincidence that Skyline and CUNY are two of the lowest rated conferences in the country?  No other conference has the differences academically from school to school.  It hurts the conferences big time. The skyline is a joke of a conference this year.

I doubt that academics plays much of a role in the relative weakness of the CUNYAC and the Skyline. Part-time coaches, heavy player turnover and weak traditions are more likely causes.

[Queens]

Well Rhodes what do the schools with "tradition" have that most the schools in the CUNY lack?  Strong Academics.  What is the main cause for player turnover in the CUNY conference? Poor Academics. 

I have been bashing CSI, i saw them play last year and once this year.  Not impressed. Anyone that knows the two teams, Hunter and CSI, knows this was a shocking outcome.  CSI can shoot the ball and if they get hot from three they can surprise someone, but they have zero athletism and wont be able to come close against the big three.

And Rhodes sorry for going out on a limb every now and then, you should try it some time  .  I'll get a prediction right sooner or later.

[Zak]

I guess I have been away for a while Rhodes as there are WAY TOO MANY comments on here that have too little in common with the truth...don't even know where to begin.

First of all, CUNY is one of very few conferences in the nation that MANDATES a 2.0 GPA start to finish. So our student-athletes are prepared for academic success first and foremost. The dropping off players for academic reasons is a very small percentage these days, quite clear to those that know. More often it's work, supporting families and the nature of commuter campuses. Plus our coaches are mostly part-time, so the oversight is not the same, but getting a lot better.

Academically, schools in ALL conferences vary from 1 to 10, so CUNY is no different. For the record, Baruch, Brooklyn, CCNY, Hunter and Queens are Tier 1 in CUNY which makes them tougher to get into (this year, most students needed well over 85). And there is no Open enrollment at the CUNY senior colleges, please get your facts straight.

As for the coaches, the goal is for the kids to graduate, period! Studies have proven that kids with degrees have a much higher success rate in life (i.e. jobs) so I don't care which CUNY school they go to, and what their final GPA is...they get their degree. Our coaches do a great job overall, keeping kids in school on that road and yes, coach St. John has great track record along with most others in our league.

Lastly, young men and women often times need a second chance as everyone makes mistakes (even in choosing a college) and we are here to provide it for them. Coach Plevritis has done a very nice job recruiting quality student-athletes and time will tell if they are quality students first and foremost.

Please don't jump to conclusions until you REALLY know, as is the case with the altercation at John Jay. We deal with each and every case and levy suspensions (and worse) where warranted. As you can see fro m the first post to the truth, the rumors are often blown out of proportion.

Next time Rhodes I will have to read the board from the NCAA Convention. Zak 

[Coach AG]

I still dont understand why it is a shocking win for CSI.  They play tuff man to man D and have 2 great big men?

[Queens]

Yea maybe im wrong about CSI.  It was just my opinion, Hunter i felt was a superior team.  I duno about two great big men.  THere both above average players.  Marcel is a great big man. And the game i saw vs York he made those two "great big men" look extremely ordinary.

[Coach AG]

I agree Marcel is in a league of his own, he leads the nation in rebounds for goodness-sake.  But for the CUNY they are two great bigmen.  For that matter you might say that CSI has the best front line in the CUNY as a group. 

Look at the stats=
Mike Ledbetter- 12 pts , 6 rbs, 61 % FG
Jordan Young- 15 pts, 7.6 rbs, 54% FG
Christian Montervino- 15.4 pts, 6.1 rbs, 47% FG, 45 % from 3 pt. range.
   I challenged you to find a CUNY team with better frontline production.  The main problem with CSI is that they dont have a guard that can create his own shot and just flat out go get it.

[coachericharrison]

Classic ending to Lehman vs. CCNY men's game today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=224zi5MzeO4

[Coach AG]

 I am still trying to figure out how he made that shot?? His body was squared up to  the sideline and he shot it off balance with one hand. Pure Luck but fun to watch , thanks for the footage.

[Danny Weismuller]

Whats up AG? Its been a while.

Check out the around the nation article by Gordon Mann about Brooklyn College.

http://www.d3hoops.com/nation/


just scroll down.

And looks like Brooklyn is getting hot again.... watch out CUNY... big win vs Baruch. ANyone see the game?

[Queens]

I mean lets not get caught up in stats,  they have very nice stats but know one fears those 3 players.  When you mentioned them i actually did go to CSI's website to see their stats and i was surprised.  Young is the best out of the 3.  Montivino is a very nice shooter but cant do much else.  The problem with CSI is they dont have ANYONE who can create his own shot.  And they have 4 good players and the rest of the team is well below average.  You were right that they dont get alot of love because i'm a big follower of the conference and i didnt even realize their stats were that good.

I saw the brooklyn/baruch game.  Quick point about brooklyns new gym.  Its really nice and it was much needed, BUT who ever thought it was a good idea to have these windows around the gym needs to be fired.  You have this bright blinding sun glaring throughout the gym into the stands and onto the court.  Several times throughout the game the point guards for each team had their off hands up in the air blocking the sun so they could see who to pass to.  They need to get blinds up there ASAP.  You cannot hold saturday afternoon games in this gym with the sun coming through the windows like that.

The game was pretty much a repeat of the championship game in my opinion.  Close game all the way through and in the last 5 minutes baruch cant make a play and Baptiste is getting big buckets and Brooklyn college made all the clutch plays to win the game.  Baruch is on a slide right now losing 3 in a row and didnt look good for most of the second half.  Brooklyn looked good, Baptiste made some real impressive moves but i dont think he played his best game.  No one makes harder shots in the conference than he does.  He just a tough cover for anyone, he can do it all.  These two teams will match up again in the semis and the energy in the crowd and between the two teams is excellent.  Any questions feel free to ask.

[CunyPlayer03]

Ok since we are nearly done with the regular season...How do you guys think the conference teams are going to look like..as well as Player of the Year and Rookie of the Year?

[CUNYMAN]

This is my first post on D3hoops so I am going to be very blunt about what I think about what is going on in the CUNYAC. First, I will start by saying that I have seen Hunter College play a few times this year but the Hunter vs. CSI game was the last straw, and by the looks of things, Coach P. is in a different mind set than a regular winning coaches such as St. John of York and Rankis of Baruch. The way he plays certain players such as Dubois and Rubino is completely idiotic. They might be division 1 transfers but they are not the key to Hunters success and at times, they hurt the team as does the coaching staff and Coach P himself. The only bright side to the Hunter Hawks is the freshman and sophomore talent they appear to have with Klingsberg, Courtien, Hoffman, and Carpenter who for being the biggest and one of the youngest player in CUNY, seems to have such a limited roll when in comparison to other Hunter big men. The big men that play now are certainly not helping the teams interior presents, especially when it comes to bodying up players like Marcel Esonwune of York College . Its obvious that Coach doesn't realize that these four players are the future of Hunter Basketball and he is doing everything possible to make them want to leave the school, which I assume is alright with Coach P because he will just find a division 1 quick fix and he will end up in the position he is in, unable to beat teams with talent. Not to put all of the blame on Coach P., but the Hunter coaching staff surely is not helping. From my sources, maybe with a few exceptions, the Hunter Coaching staff seems to know very little about the game itself, but on a positive note, they had one of the best recruiting years in CUNY history with the three big freshman and some sophomores. As it stands as of now, the Hunter Hawks are one of the weaker teams in the CUNY and if things continue to go the way they are now, they will just have another weak season and lose the first round of CUNYAC play. During the York game, in a crucial game for the Hawks, they played a kid who hasn't not played more than 5 minutes all season before he played the likes of his good players, and the bad part is they lost by 3! It is coaching decisions like this that will lead to another mediocre season for the Hawks.