MBB: City University of New York Athletic Conference

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National Sports Rankings

I've just added 2009-10 division 3 teams to the simulation I've been working on. There is a headline, box score and player stats. Here are a few sample games. Hit play again for a different result each time.

I've added accurate player stats and rosters to four leagues so far, the rest have generic rosters:

NJAC, Empire 8, Sunyac, ODA

NJAC

http://nationalsportsrankings.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_oneonone&magic=965

Empire 8

http://nationalsportsrankings.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_oneonone&magic=966

Sunyac
http://nationalsportsrankings.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_oneonone&magic=967

ODA

http://nationalsportsrankings.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_oneonone&magic=968

Users can edit rosters, play teams in leagues, tournaments, seasons, series, 25 game matchup and more.

Teams are rated based on w/l records and strength of schedule. Any teams or teams that may be incorrect after playing a bunch of times I've asked users to let me know and I'll adjust them. It's not easy trying to place a number on each team, but all in all the users seem to enjoy the possibilities.

I thought some readers may be interested. If anyone wants a specific conference added with player names and up to date stats let me know I'll try to get them updated.

Rhodes Scholar

Two great semifinal games last night at CCNY. The two top seeds advanced, but both were taken to the brink. Hunter matches up very well with York and the Cardinals were lucky to pull the game out. Huge effort by Hamilton-Lopez put York over the top. If he didn't hit a ton of very big shots, York may very well have been eliminated. Hunter's big three (Rubino, DuBois and Klingsberg) all put in solid efforts and Esonwune looked merely mortal.

In the second game, Baruch killed Brooklyn off the boards but still came up a bit short. Like the opener this one could have gone either way, but the Bulldogs managed to pull this one out in OT. Brooklyn played with a bit more composure in overtime and that enabled them to pull this one out. Once again a super tough loss for Baruch, but unlike last year there doesn't appear to be any chance of a Pool C bid this time around.



atn alum

So long as the weather allows for my commute, D3Hoops.com will be broadcasting the CUNYAC title games. Will be my 3rd trip there...saw a halfcourt shot to win the title, the last time.

Check for the link on Saturday at http://d3hoops.com

Danny Weismuller

Anyone see the games?
Big congrats to BC... I figured it woudl be hard for York to beat them 3 games in one year.

Does anyone think an Atlantic Region team will get a pool C bid?

I'm thinking Baruch and York get ECAC bids. Don't know about anyone else in CUNY.

Knightstalker

Here is the ECAC bracket for anyone interested.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

Rhodes Scholar

Quote from: Danny Weismuller on March 01, 2010, 07:52:21 AM
Anyone see the games?
Big congrats to BC... I figured it woudl be hard for York to beat them 3 games in one year.
I saw the CUNY final. Good game, and Brooklyn won it because they played with more composure and confidence.  It looked like Baptiste had something to prove and he certainly did. He never got rattled and he got the job done when it mattered most. John also had a very good all-around game: playing solid defense, handling and distributing the ball and also scoring when necessary. Podias and his staff did a good job as well. Esonwune did not put in a dominant performance and his teammates were unable to pick up the slack. Hamilton-Lopez was high scorer but he didn't shoot well and Exum had a lot of turnovers. With that said there isn't a whole lot of difference between Brooklyn, York and Baruch. Unfortunately for the Cardinals and the Bearcats only one team can win the championship and this year it was Brooklyn.

Quote from: Danny Weismuller on March 01, 2010, 07:52:21 AM
Does anyone think an Atlantic Region team will get a pool C bid?
Stockton and Rutgers-Newark received Pool C bids.

sjfcards

Any information out there about Brooklyn for a Fisher fan? I am looking forward to seeing a team I have never seen before come NCAA time. They look solid all around but I have no idea what to expect.
GO FISHER!!!

BubbaChuck3

Rhodes:

Respect your opinion, have to disagree though... I dont think York or Baruch are as deep as Brooklyn... Both teams lack the role players that Brooklyn has.. York relies heavily on Marcel and Lopez... Baruch alot on Kunkel and Hilaire... Beauchamp also plays a big part in success.. But Brooklyn has multiple players other than Baptiste who have made huge plays for them all season... That I think is what separates Brooklyn from other teams in the CUNYAC

BklynBasketball

Congrats to the Bridges...errr...Bulldogs!! They were certainly the most talented team and should have been the favorite in my opinion. They proved me correct.

On to the ECAC, Im a little short of shocked that MEC made it in over Maritime. Any idea as to why?

Rhodes Scholar

Quote from: BubbaChuck3 on March 01, 2010, 09:45:43 PM
Rhodes:

Respect your opinion, have to disagree though... I dont think York or Baruch are as deep as Brooklyn... Both teams lack the role players that Brooklyn has.. York relies heavily on Marcel and Lopez... Baruch alot on Kunkel and Hilaire... Beauchamp also plays a big part in success.. But Brooklyn has multiple players other than Baptiste who have made huge plays for them all season... That I think is what separates Brooklyn from other teams in the CUNYAC
I agree with you that Brooklyn is deeper than both York and Baruch. I just don't believe they are necessarily a better team than the other two. I feel that all three teams are pretty comparable. Just remember that York beat Brooklyn twice during the regular season, albeit by one point both times. Brooklyn, however, won the big one the third time around.

Queens

Brooklyn talent wise is not better than York or Baruch.  One might say both York and Baruch are more talented (besides Baptiste that is) but theres something about this brooklyn team that when it comes down to crunch time they make all the big plays to win.  All three teams are evenly matched.  But Brooklyn has the intanglibles thats York and Baruch lack. 

It was like deja vu all over again, same thing as last year.  Brooklyn comes into the championship game as number 2 seed and underdogs and find a way to win the game rather easily.  Baptiste had something to prove being that he didnt get MVP ( he didnt deserve it) but he wanted to show he was the most talented player and he clearly was. 

Baruch is probably kicking themselves because they beat both Rutgers Newark and Stockton.  They were probably one big win away from makign the NCAAs.  ( Willy P in Double OT or Stevens in OT).  York has to also be kicking themselves i thought they were gonna beat Brooklyn pretty easily but they didnt do it.  Would have liked to see Marcel and Hamilton Lopez do some damage in the NCAAs.

Brooklyn stands basically no chance vs St. Johns Fisher.  They are going into a hostile enviroment vs a very very good team.  Brooklyns antics seem to work well in CUNY but not well out of conference.  They havent beaten a good team out of conference all season.  I'll be shocked if this game is under 10 points.

Do not take this as me being a HATER towards brooklyn i think there a really good team, it just amazes me how they do it.  Baptiste is a GREAT player and one of the most talented players in the country.  Amil John will be first team all conference next year and going for player of the year his senior year.  The rest of the team im not sold on.  But hey back to back champions, cant knock them too much. 

BubbaChuck3

Queens:
I suppose a team graduating three 1000 point scorers, 2 of whom did so in 3 years cannot possibly be the most talented team in the conference.. Show me another team who can bring a guard as explosive as #34 for Brooklyn...

In terms of overall talent, i would put York 3rd in CUNY, perhaps 4th.. The kid Marcel means everything to them.. Theyd be the worst defensive team in the conference if not for his game changing defense.. I wouldnt be surprised if 60 of Exum's 100+ assists were dishes to Marcel for dunks..


Queens

3 thousand point scorers are deceiving.  Guerin scored his thousand because he scored 17 points a game as a freshmen when brooklyn was god awful.  He averages 7 pts a game now.  Hes decent at best.  And Nesbitt i wouldnt say hes a great player, hes above average at best.  He didnt even make all conference this year.  Baptiste is a monster, one of the best players in the country.

Couldnt agree with you more about York...


BubbaChuck3

i dont see how scoring 1000 points at the collegiate level could ever be considered deceiving..  its not easy to do.. Consistency is very importantt when it comes to such a feat.. Dont see how you could agree thatt York relies alot on Marcel but not concede Brooklyn is more talented.. I think in terms of an entire roster.. Brooklyn is the most talented team in the conference.. And its brave of you to talk down on 1OOO pt scorers, calling them "decent"... Would like to see you guard either Nisbett or Guerin..

Danny Weismuller

For one, Guerin is a 1,000 pt scorer but part of the reason he averages 7 a game right now is that he is like the 3-4th option in their offense. I'm sure he could of averaged double digits if the team needed that.

As far as talent wise.... I'm not sure how much more talented BC is but BC's first 7-8 guys are much more athletic than Baruch's. I also don't know how Baruch was making the NCAA's with 3 conference losses including the tourney loss.

Brooklyn is the obvious underdog going up to St. John's but beware that they are not rookies to tournament play. They went up to St. Lawerence last year and played them very tough in the same situation. I believe BC had the lead in that game with 10 minutes left and wound up losing by 12. It's not like they haven't been in this situation before. Doesn't seem like SJF has dominating big man which bodes well for BC. If BC shoots well, plays up tempo, puts up points, I think they have a shot.