MBB: City University of New York Athletic Conference

[BubbaChuck3]

Well I call for a DNA test then. My sources tell me you are the proud parent of Hunter's shooter, well the kid who shoots alot of 3's and hopes they land. (Ciarleglio)

Go look up the play by play of the games you DON'T see Xalva. Look up Brooklyn vs York at York, Brooklyn was up by 27 at one point on the ROAD, before some carelessness and York's timely shooting got them closer. Brooklyn beat Lehman at Lehman, while it may say by 7, it is my understanding that the game was not that close. And my sources tell me that City Tech got thoroughly dominated by Brooklyn the other night, they were up by a whopping 27 points just 5 minutes into the game.

Now I am not saying that Brooklyn is the clear cut favorite in any right, Baruch and CSI both have strong chances to win, as does Hunter. The CUNYAC, is a wide open league with many contenders. However, don't go out and say that Hunter is the best team to ever walk the land, for they are a bunch of JUCO transfers who have been asked to come in and save the day with no sense of camraderie and cohesion.

And by the way Xalva, it seems that Weismuller's addition to Brooklyn has had more of an impact than Hunter's "Saviour, the biggest CUNYAC transfer EVER", Marlon Smith has had for your beloved Hawks.

[xalva66]

Where do I submit my blood sample? Its just funny that I call out someone who is posting and then a brand new user starts posting on the website who has never posted before. Thats pretty funny and pretty obvious. In any case, I never called Marlon Smith the savior at Hunter. but yes he is the biggest transfer onto a cuny team. What other CUNY transfer has been bigger? Also, its a bit easier to fit into a team as a transfer when you play the 4 or 5 because you dont have to captain the offense. But when you are the PG, you have to learn the offenses and find everyone's comfort zone.

[NYBB]

I already wrote this post but it got deleted because i'm an idiot but here i go again.

Hunter is a solid, older and relatively deep team.  Coach Plevritis knows how to play everyone and get at least 9 guys into the game with everyone getting solid minutes.

Baruch is relatively young and in my opinion, has the best coach in CUNY (Rankis).  They're always competitive and good this year but as you can see by their out of conference W/L's, not as good as they have been in the past.

Brooklyn though, is the best team in the conference this year.  With Weismuller's addition, they added some needed height and size and that combined with what they already have should prove for a championship team. 

Brooklyn vs. Hunter with a narrow Brooklyn win is what i see.

As for Post-Season, no CUNY team has a chance in the NCAA tournament and this is always a puzzle to me.  CUNY, with each school having over 5000+ undergrads, with each school costing as little as they do, with each school having relatively low admission standards compared to other public institutions in the state (SUNY) and private schools everywhere, with the lack of age requirement in D3 and with NYC having some of the best hoops talent in the northeast, it's amazing to me how CUNY doesn't provide an NCAA contender each and every year.  If anyone can figure that one out for me, i'd love to know the answer.

[Coach AG]

From my experience alot of student athletes from the city want to attend schools that either have dorms or are far away and most schools in CUNY can't offer that.  Also there are a ton of colleges in the metro area to choose from especially d3  and d2 schools, but if you look in states like Wisconsin where there d3 schools are national powers the kids only have the choice to play at D1 or D3 schools because there are few if any D2 institutions.  Plus even though admission standards might be low, the elgibility requirements to play might be high at some schools.

    As far as the best teams in the league right now I would have to go with the top 3 in the South division.  Brooklyn and York have the most talent and are peaking.  CSI although not the most talented are playing the best team basketball out of the 3 teams.  Anyone who knows the game would enjoy watching them play.
     One team nobody is talking about is JohnJay.  I think Coach Charles does a good job over there and they have the talent to make a run.  By the way does anyone know what the story with Diaa Kased is?  I remember coaching against him and he was a animal inside nuetralizing our best post player and controlling the game on both sides of the court.  Currently he does'nt start and he usually only logs 20 min a game.  As far as Hunter they have been known in the past to have a player who is by far the most talented in the league but still never got it done.  For example Lorcan Precious, Monroe and Hardin in 99 was a absolute beast but as we all know you have to be a complete team.   Good lUck to all Be back in a few days to comment on nonleague games.
     

[Defense is the Key]

  It's OK for new posters to get on the site, right? I guess some people think they have a monopoly and don't want competition. Anyway, I just wanted to point out that
team basketball also involves many people sharing the ball and if the poster who said CSI plays the best team basketball would look at the Box Scores and the CUNY stats he may notice that Brooklyn frequently has 4 or 5 players each night in double digits in scoring, and they lead the Conference in Assists per game.  That would seem to indicate they play well together too.

[Rhodes Scholar]

Coach AG: Kased was out last year with a knee injury and I believe that is what limits his minutes this year. When I saw him against Hunter this year he was impressive. He definitely is one of the best big men in the league. He plays good position defense and gets a lot of garbage baskets.

NYBB: Some of the reasons for the CUNYAC's lack of NCAA tournament success:

1) Part-time coaches: This signifies that the administrations do not consider athletics to be particulary important and they don't expect to compete nationally.

2) Tremendous roster turnover: Whether players flunk out, quit, transfer, or get thrown off the team, the lack of continuity makes winning that much harder.

3) No tradition of winning: The CUNYAC has always been one of the weaker conferences in the country. This makes attracting better players more difficult.

The size of the student body is largely irrelevant because you're relying on recruited players. If all the players walked on then a large student body would be a big factor.

[xalva66]

There is a lot of non-conference games scheduled today. HUNTER (because I am a fan) is playing Richard Stockton who is 10-4. Is it just me or does Hunter schedule a lot of tough out of conference opponents (Richard Stockton, Wilkes, Manhattanville, NYU, Connecticut College, Amherst) so an overall 8-8 record may not seem as nice as a 12-4 record. Maybe some other CUNY team should start scheduling some tough games too. Oh By The way, 4 of Brooklyn's 6 out of Conference wins have been against teams that combine for a 12-46 record. And one of the other wins is against Berkley who doesnt even play in a conference. I mean, I cant even find their record online anywhere.  Sorry to be an antagonizer but now it seems I have three new posters posting against me so I figure I throw a little fuel onto the fire.

Brooklyn is playing College of New Jersey (who is usually a good team) but is 5-9 this year.

[Knightstalker]

Seems like SwingO and Defense is the Key are either the same poster or related.

[xalva66]

it certainly seems that way.

[NYBB]

Brooklyn's schedule is def. weaker than Hunter.  We'll see if Hunter can't beat Baruch to take the north division ( i think they should ) but if they can't, Brooklyn is going to be the favorite all the way.

[Pat Coleman]

Seems like SwingO and Defense is the Key are either the same poster or related.

If it's that obvious to you, imagine what it looks like when you're the person who gets to see everyone's IP address...

[xalva66]

so the ids are probably coming from the same computer. Thats hilarious.

[Danny Weismuller]

I def agree with the consensus about the four top teams being york, csi, bc and hunter... I think Baruch is almost there but is lacking a little athleticism... but CUNY is wide open right now.

Took in the Brooklyn/City Tech game on Friday... Brooklyn jumped out to a 20 point lead in the first 10 minutes.... from there they were coasting...
City Tech is only going to go as far as Jamal Hall is going to take them.  Brooklyn's Nesbitt did a great job on him... took him out of the game from the beginning.

other than that.. there was almost a riot at the game... CIty Tech fans are probably the most disrespectful fans in CUNY... one fan.. walked like 10 feet onto the court after a foul call and got in the face of one of the brooklyn players.. refs removed him from the gym... then after the ref stopped the game again to tell the fans that if they didnt stop harassing the refs/bc players... they were all getting throw out.. The ball gets in bounded and someone throws a bottle cap at the ref during the game..(while public safety just stood there and watched) the game gets stopped again and the city tech coach comes over and tells the fans and i quote...."I know were are getting screwed by the refs but you cant throw things on the court".. yeah great job coach... way to stir up the fans again... Im sure the refs were the reason your team was getting blown out by 27 points with 7 minutes left...
Real classyyy

[Pat Coleman]

(while public safety just stood there and watched)

This is the most disturbing part. Fan behavior happens in all sorts of places but the security folks need to do their jobs.

[xalva66]

and brooklyn's last two non-conference games are against St Joes of Brooklyn (5-10) and SUNY New Paltz (6-7). When talking about brooklyn please do not reference any overall record. It is very deceiving. Therefore, we go back to the 6-2 cuny record (even though the Brooklyn College Website has it listed as 7-1), which is among 4 or 5 other CUNY teams. There is no clear favorite. Plain and simple.