MBB: City University of New York Athletic Conference

[Rhodes Scholar]

As for the clout of the Skyline they are now and will be for a long time, weaker than the CUNYAC. Now that Stevens, Merchant Marine and Manhattanville are not long a part of it, and their replacements were Poly, Purchase and Bard, the Skyline is nowhere near the CUNYAC in regards to level of competition.

I agree with you that the Skyline is definitely weaker this year than it has been in recent years. The CUNYAC is stronger now, but not by the margin you seem to think. Plus, there's no way to know how long the CUNYAC will be better. This may not be a long-term deal.

[NYBB]

Farmingdale and St. Joe's are good in the Skyline...the rest of the conference needs some work.

[Rhodes Scholar]

From the d3hoops.com scoreboard

Baruch 75, Stevens 71 (OT)

Big out-of-conference win for the Bearcats against #17 Stevens. George Kunkel had 21 points and 14 rebounds. Phil Schatz had 16 and Tammir Farid added 14, all from the line.

Stevens was led by Tim Williams with 23 points and 11 rebounds.

It's the second time this year that a Baruch basketball team defeated a Top 25 team. Earlier this year, the Baruch women's team defeated nationally ranked Messiah.

[Pat Coleman]

There's been probably 150,000 games or so in Division III history.

The largest margin of victory by a D-III team is only 14 months old. Lincoln beat Ohio State-Marion 201-78 in December 2006.

[NYBB]

that's ridiculous

[d3cunybbhoops]

Also, when did CSI and Baruch become Harvard and Yale??? I understand that apparently everyone loves Baruch because they always follow the rules apparently, which is a crock for anyone in the know and CSI which has a beautiful campus, but is still basically no better academically then it's prior 2-year college status.

Danny,
Regarding your comment about Brooklyn. The biggest mis-conception that High School students have is that they believe that they get into Brooklyn easily. That is completely inaccurate. Brooklyn along with Baruch and Hunter are some of the toughest academic CUNY schools to get into. Other teams in the conference have open enrollment in which anyone can get accepted.

I've been following these posts for a couple of months now and I think you all have brought up some good points and for the most part, you keep it respectful. I just would like to clarify a couple of misconceptions that are listed above. The only CUNY schools where there is anything resembling "open enrollment" are the community colleges. The senior colleges are broken into 3 tiers - and you do need to satisfy different academic requirements to qualify - so it is true that there is sometimes not a level playing field. Xalva is correct about Brooklyn, Hunter and Baruch being tough academically to get into, however that also includes CCNY and CSI. The requirements to gain entry into CSI's baccalaureate program (which you must be admitted to in order to be eligible for athletics) is exactly the same as Brooklyn's, with the exception that the math requirement is actually tougher at CSI.  The students eligible to play at these CUNY schools are not only commuter students, paying their own way and doing things right - sometimes supporting families and holding down full time jobs, but academically they are very qualified and could gain entry to many top schools. An 85 HS average and 1100 SAT is the average of admitted students to these schools.  It is true that CUNYAC has not done well against NJAC counterparts historically, but if anyone knows about the NJAC waivers and progress requirements, you can see why.  I think CUNYAC is on the rise, and the popularity of this board is proof of that - we just need to make sure that information is accurate.  Good luck to all - it's going to be a wild finish in the CUNY this season.

[Danny Weismuller]

well said... You might get some Karma for that response...

Big win by Baruch in OT. Is Stevens the favorite to win the Empire 8?
What caused them to have a ranking over the other teams in their conference?
CCNY defeated Mitchell.
Brooklyn took down SUNY New-Paltz.

[xalva66]

His karma will be better than mine now. Actually any new user will have better karma than me.

So the big game is tonight between hunter and York. Any thoughts on this game?

[NYBB]

Hunter by 10

[xalva66]

I think its going to come down to a possession or two. 6 point game. I cant say who since I have not seen York play. But both teams are good and at the top of their respective divisions. Will be a very interesting game. Look at Baruch with that nice win last night all over D3Hoops.Com.

[bballgirl86]

I think that York is going to come out with the victory tonight. Wilson is on a roll and with the balanced scoring of Phipps, Roberts, and Esonwune it should be a tough but interesting game. Salamanca is also playing well in the last couple of games, dishing out 11 assists and  only 3 turnovers in the game against Brooklyn.

[D.Echols aka Dblock]

york will win by 10 they are on a roll and i dont think hunter is going to win. but who knows its been crazy this year we just have to see how it goes. It should be a very good game i think this might be the preview for the championship. wait they said that last year and we smack them at home haha but that was last year and this is now


good win by baruch

[D.Echols aka Dblock]

bballgirl i like your reply do you go to york?

[D.Echols aka Dblock]

i got one more thing to get off of my chest. everybody keeps comparing the cuny to other conferences, i think the cuny conf would be a very good conference if the schools had dorms to offer students. plus alot of the cuny school dont have the budget to bring in alot of players because of it. there are alot of players in the city who dont get the chance to play d1 or d2, and they choose to go to d3 school, that are in the skyline, empire 8, and njac. i been told by plenty of high school player who said they would attend a cuny school but there are no dorms. thats why the njac the skyline and other conference have been better in the past. what do you think about that? this question is open for all

[NYBB]

the dorms situation is true if you're talking about 18, 19 year old kids looking to leave home for the first time and go to school but...

CUNY should be able to attract more older guys who are looking to finish up and older guys (mid 20's) who can play ball in theory, should be able to beat up on 18, 19 year olds fresh out of HS.