MBB: City University of New York Athletic Conference

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xalva66

The CUNYs are wide open this year, I dont think anybody can even predict who will get past the first round, let alone whose going to make it to the championship. If the season ended today,  Brooklyn would be playing Baruch in the first round. I mean thats a pretty crazy matchup for a first round game. I mean there have also been 7-8 seeds almost pulling out the upset every year in the first round (note: Hunter vs Medgar Evers when Lorcan Precious hit a buzzer beating three to go into OT) and that year Medgar Evers was considered unstoppable with all of those players they had. The game is all about matchups. Some teams match up better with other teams and that is what the game all comes down to. But in the end, the best team truly comes out on top.

D.Echols aka Dblock

you are right we had the oldest team in cuny last year and we beat up on alot of cuny teams. but can you imagine if they had dorms, and if the schools had more money how crazy would that be i feel the cuny would be a force in the atlantic region with dorms and bigger gyms, we already live in one of the biggest cities in the usa, now that would be fun to see even queens college dont have dorms and they are d2 that goes to show you that the bigger schools get the better player because of dorms and gyms.

NYBB

well, CUNY was setup for middle to lower class citizens to earn college degrees and primarily, CUNY still stands for that.  You don't see that many wealthy kids from Westchester and the Upper East Side attending CUNY schools do you?

The dorms would help perhaps Hunter College because it is one of the better academic CUNYs and a lot of out of state students come to the city to go to Hunter, as it is a much less expensive alternative to NYU.  Aside from Hunter however, I don't see how dorms would aid CUNY attracting athletes because the majority of the students who want to and do attend CUNY schools are inner city kids who already live in New York or the surrounding areas.

CityD3

i know new york city high school basketball is one of the best  regions in the country. the reason thats the case because all these monster HS programs have players that get the exposure wihch allows them to play Division I and Division II. That leaves the division III programs in the area the guys that played behind these high school stars. These players have no game experience and cannot compete with the division III powers upstate or in the midwest, which include players that dont have as many choices for college in their local area so all the best players end up goin to same school.

Rhodes Scholar

Hunter 81, York 70

Hunter
Michael Dodd  20 pts
Marlon Smith  16 pts
Joe DeLuca  16 pts

York
Mike Salamanca  14 pts
Omari Phipps  14 pts
Chris Roberts  12 pts

Hunter won this game pretty convincingly. It was nip and tuck until Marlon Smith took over late in the first half to propel the Hawks to a 43-29 advantage at the break. In the second half Hunter was in command throughout but had to withstand a couple of mild runs by the Cardinals.

Smith had a solid all-around game. He passed the ball well and played good defense. DeLuca posted up very effectively in the second half. Dodd got back on track and shot well from downtown as well as closer  to the hoop. Frantz Millien was also a factor off the bench.

For York, Salamanca played very well in the first half, but faded in the closing stanza. He also made a whole lot of very nice passes, many of which were not converted. Roberts and Phipps were both effective down low for York. Aaron Wilson did not shoot well and was not a factor.





bballgirl86

Well I was wrong. Hunter did beat York but for one and only one reason, Wilson had a really bad game. I guarantee that if Wilson had a game like he did at Brooklyn York would've came out with the win. The #1 seed in the playoffs is still up for grab though but I do believe that with Baruch coming up with the big win the other night it will be a good game when Baruch meets Hunter again on Feb 7th.

knight_life

There are always if's in this world. I can tell her that if Michael Dodd was not slumping a month ago, CSI would have lost to Hunter. But, nothing can be changed, Wilson had a bad game, it happens. His shots were off, was shooting high for some reason and just wasn't able to get into any sort of rythem. So maybe Wilson is not York's savior after all.

I can tell you this as well, Smith has helped Hunter, but on the season, DeLuca has been the driving force behind this team's success.

NYBB

did i say hunter by 10?  close...i meant 11

Rhodes Scholar

CSI kept pace with Hunter when the Dolphins beat Lehman last night on the road, 78-76. It was CSI's eighth straight conference win. CSI and Hunter are both 8-2. Brooklyn and York are both 7-3.




Danny Weismuller

I think you have to say Hunter is the favorite right now, they seem to be playing well. CSI is on a roll as well and squeaked out a win last nite.
Like I said after the Brooklyn/York game, if Wilson isn't on point, York might have some trouble scoring. Hunter's coach was at the Brooklyn/York game and I'm sure he emphasized shutting down Wilson.

Big game this weekend with Brooklyn visiting CSI.
If Brooklyn wins Saturday, they control their own destiny for first place in the conference.

Good chance we have three teams finish with 10-3 records.




xalva66

bballgirl86,

I guess Hunter deserves no credit in making him have a bad game. I understand that he was in foul trouble, but he did not look comfortable in the offense even before he got into foul trouble. Some shots were 40 feet in the air. Now understand with Wilson out of the game, York began to force the post play to Pips and he played like a beast. If Wilson was in the game and playing well, maybe York doesn't go down into the post as much. You can just say, Wilson had a bad game and thats why they lost.

xalva66

Quote from: Danny Weismuller on January 31, 2008, 09:26:17 AM
I think you have to say Hunter is the favorite right now, they seem to be playing well. CSI is on a roll as well and squeaked out a win last nite.
Like I said after the Brooklyn/York game, if Wilson isn't on point, York might have some trouble scoring. Hunter's coach was at the Brooklyn/York game and I'm sure he emphasized shutting down Wilson.

Big game this weekend with Brooklyn visiting CSI.
If Brooklyn wins Saturday, they control their own destiny for first place in the conference.

Good chance we have three teams finish with 10-3 records.





You mean they control their own destiny within their division. A Brooklyn win on Saturday would put Hunter in sole possession of first place. But let me not get ahead of myself. Hunter has NYCCT tomorrow night and they shocked CUNY when they beat Brooklyn early in the season. Right now, CSI holds its own destiny. If they win out, they will be in first place. If they lose saturday and Hunter wins tomorrow, then Hunter holds its own destiny. For once, I am rooting for Brooklyn. Go BRIDGES!!!

Zak Ivkovic

Two quick points on the newer version of the CUNY you all know and the current trends...

1. Besides Hunter and CCNY, Queens (2009) and CSI (2010) are in the process of building dorms on campus with others looking into it...

2. The academic standards were raised significantly quite a while ago when all the remedials were delegated to the community colleges and with the introduction of the Honors College - such moves have allowed CUNY to recruit a different and younger high school student. Across the board the CUNY students of today are very close to the standards across the country in terms of age, although we still serve the "older" generation. As I said before though, Baruch, Brooklyn, CCNY, Hunter and Queens are by far the toughest to get into while some others are inching closer to their standards.

Danny Weismuller

Quote from: xalva66 on January 31, 2008, 10:45:45 AM


You mean they control their own destiny within their division. A Brooklyn win on Saturday would put Hunter in sole possession of first place. But let me not get ahead of myself. Hunter has NYCCT tomorrow night and they shocked CUNY when they beat Brooklyn early in the season. Right now, CSI holds its own destiny. If they win out, they will be in first place. If they lose saturday and Hunter wins tomorrow, then Hunter holds its own destiny. For once, I am rooting for Brooklyn. Go BRIDGES!!!
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my bad..i didnt realize Hunter only had 2 conf losses... if Baruch can beat hunter then it could be come a possibility.. so i'm rooting for Baruch I guess...


Rhodes Scholar

Here are the schedules for the teams that are battling for the #1 seed in the CUNYAC Tournament:

CSI (8-2): Brooklyn, John Jay, @ York

Hunter (8-2): @ NYC Tech, @ Baruch, @ John Jay

Brooklyn (7-3): @ CSI, Medgar Evers, CCNY

York (7-3): Medgar Evers, @ NYC Tech, CSI

Baruch (6-4): @ CCNY, Hunter, @ Lehman