MBB: City University of New York Athletic Conference

[wendellladner]

it's a shame that Hunter didn't have Lance Evans or Joe DeLuca because i think with a full strength squad, they could have done something whereas I do not think York can.

Why didn't Hunter have DeLuca or Evans? What happened?

[Pat Coleman]

Some of the negativity is getting absurd here. What are you trying to say NYBB and BubbaChuck, that young men that are older than the typical college student don't deserve to get an college education???

Zak -- you may be jumping to a conclusion here. I doubt anyone really wants to deny them an education here. Basketball doesn't pay the way for education in Division III, after all.

[NYBB]

I would like to know what happened to DeLuca & Evans as well and i'm def. not the one saying that older players is a bad thing.

The only thing that i'm stating is that older players should have a distinct and strong advantage over younger players and it doesn't make any sense to me that local teams in the CUNY/NJAC/SKYLINE don't perform better with guys in their 20's in out of league/NCAA tournament play considering their teams are playing against private institutions where 95 % of their team(s) are made up of 18-22 year olds .

[Knightstalker]

I would like to know what happened to DeLuca & Evans as well and i'm def. not the one saying that older players is a bad thing.

The only thing that i'm stating is that older players should have a distinct and strong advantage over younger players and it doesn't make any sense to me that local teams in the CUNY/NJAC/SKYLINE don't perform better with guys in their 20's in out of league/NCAA tournament play considering their teams are playing against private institutions where 95 % of their team(s) are made up of 18-22 year olds .

If you look the NJAC does perform fairly well in the NCAA's and in OOC games.  This year is a down year but most years they NJAC represents itself fairly well.

Also with the older guys, they may be stronger physically but that does not always translate, they may not be in the best shape, they may be working full time like Dana John and Abe Williams before him at NJCU, carrying a full course load and commuting to school and practice.  Most of the students at private schools do not have these distractions.

Also, these older players may not have played organized ball in several years or in the case of DJ never until they get to college. 

[Queens]

Deluca has a staff infection in his knee...I think if they had him in the game against York it would have been much closer. 

In regards to the older guys, i have no problem with it as long as they are there for the right reasons.  I think in many cases (york) the older students are there only to play basketball and getting a degree is secondary if not at all.  No one can really complain about it though, because if you go through every roster in the CUNYAC every team has players older then 22 or 23 on it.  Just a matter of getting the ones who can play.

[BubbaChuck3]

* Fun fact of the day: During his senior year, Mike Salamanca of York won a High School PSAL City Championship for Cardozo .. In 1999.

Just to clear things up, a true college freshman this year would not have graduated 8th grade until 2003.

[xalva66]

Regardless of what happened at the end of the season this year, Hunter is heading in the right direction. Each year under Coach Plevritis has been an improvement. He is young and energetic.

If Mike Dodd, Joe Deluca and Franz Millen return they will have a nice core of players for next year. It will be literally impossible to replace someone of Smith's ability but you cannot give up 90+ points to a team that averages 70 per game. No one mentioned how much Chris Roberts killed Hunter that night.

[Rhodes Scholar]

Hunter has far too many one-year players. They need more players to stick around and provide some continuity.

[BubbaChuck3]

Na Na Na Na
Na Na Na Na
Hey Hey Hey

GoodByeeeeee! (No 3 peat)

John Jay up 8 with 33 seconds remaining. York's big man throws a punch at a John Jay player causing a bench clearing altercation. Real Classy.

Congrats to the Bloodhounds on their amazing championship victory!
   

[Coach AG]

John Jay wins, I said it 3 months ago watch out for the Bloodhounds.  68-54, JJ controlled the`game`from the`get go.  Very deep, well coached and solid defensive team.  Kudos to Coach Jackson he is a talented coach. I wish them well in the NCAA's.

On a side note the game ended very ugly!  It really showed York has no class!!!

Marcel Esowonue threw a punch at Garcia, that was followed by Wilson also throwing a punch.  To make it even worse Bennett came off the york bench to shove someone and Coach St.John tried to stop him but was greated by a swinging elbow{no control}.  In the end all 3 players were kicked out of the game.  In a post game interview St. John gave John Jay no credit and said they lost the game because the played bad. 

YORK PROGRAM= NO CLASS

[Queens]

York proved why no one cheers for them and everyone always wants them to lose.  They showed no class and no respect for the game.  Did any one see Num 33 throw a punch at the coach, or at least it looked like a punch.  John Jay played great and outplayed York.  They deserved to win. 

I'd like to hear what bballgirl86 has to say about the game and the way York conducted itself...she was very confident after tuesday win.  She'll probably be a sore loser like the whole York team and coaching staff.

[bballgirl86]

I am definitely not a sore loser and I give credit where credit is due.

John Jay came out with avengence tonight and played their hearts out. JJ didn't even allow York to get any type of rhythm going in the 2nd half. If York had the balanced scoring and played like they did against Hunter, it would've been a very difficult game for JJ to win. Kased of JJ proved his leadership tonight and went out there and created plays for his team. Plain and simple, JJ wanted this championship more than York, and the way they played tonight they really deserved to win. All of JJ players came out and played with heart and that's exactly why they got the win. I give much credit to the coach and the players of JJ, they played a great game tonight.

On a sad note, I truly believe that York went out with no class. Losing a game is no reason what so ever to create a brawl like they did. Not only did they embarrass themselves, the school and the athletic program, but they also embarrassed CUNYAC. Their is no excuse for the type of behavior that was displayed out there tonight.     

[NYBB]

York should be severely disciplined for the brawl at the end of the game.  That's absolutely ridiculous: you didn't see Garnett throwing punches at Stoudemire tonight after the C's lost did you? 

Salamanca (or however you spell his last name) by my calculations (1999 HS graduate) should be 27 years old right now.  Adults like him and his teammates should be able to control themselves and not get into silly fights.  I don't care who started it, it was the team that committed the crime and that's just disgusting.  John Jay has its fair share of older players, including an ex-military guy, and you didn't see him busting skulls.  I gurantee that if that marine dude wanted to fight, he would literally KILL someone on York's team.  The crowd would've got their $'s worth had that happened but once again, NO PLACE IN BASKETBALL FOR THAT KIND OF BS.

[Coach AG]

Zak are there going to be any actions placed on Yorks team after the "absurd negative" way they ended the game?  They seemed to be quite bitter after the game and showed a lack of sportsmanship.  But they will probably get another pass because Coach St. John is so great for the CUNY because he gets quality people in his program and helps older men get another chance at earning degrees.

[Queens]

What can the CUNY do about it?  Seasons over and 3/4s of Yorks team will never be seen again.  I still cant get over the fact that a player on York took a swing at his own coach!  I never seen anything like it, couldnt believe i was watching a college game. 

But it was a real exciting game, some sick dunks, and godfrey making Phipps fall was as good as it gets...