MBB: City University of New York Athletic Conference

[NYBB]

haha phipps fell?  that's fantastic.  I love the hate against York on this board...phenomenal because they deserve it.

[Danny Weismuller]

All I have to say is wow. John Jay pulls the upset of the season. I only saw about 5 minutes of the second half but from what I saw... It just looked like John Jay had a lot more composure than York.  After hearing about this fight I guess that's a pretty good assumption.

Penalty wise... I think if you throw a punch, N.C.A.A. rules call for an automatic one-game suspension if a player is called for a flagrant personal foul for fighting. And that's not including penalties  handed down internally from the school or conference. Now if York gets an ECAC bid... I'm assuming a few of their players will be in street clothes for the game.
IF the full team is to blame I think they should have to forfeit their right to play in the ECAC but if it's only or two guys I don't know if you want to penalize the whole team.

[xalva66]

Wow. Congratulations to John Jay on their championship run. Unfortunately now that instead of people talking about their great run on this message board, we are all discussing the acts of York at the end of the game.

Classless is not the word.

[Rhodes Scholar]

John Jay wins, I said it 3 months ago watch out for the Bloodhounds.  68-54, JJ controlled the`game`from the`get go.  Very deep, well coached and solid defensive team.  Kudos to Coach Jackson he is a talented coach. I wish them well in the NCAA's.

You were right about John Jay. I also think Jackson is a very good coach who gets the most out of his players. 

I am definitely not a sore loser and I give credit where credit is due.

John Jay came out with avengence tonight and played their hearts out. JJ didn't even allow York to get any type of rhythm going in the 2nd half. If York had the balanced scoring and played like they did against Hunter, it would've been a very difficult game for JJ to win. Kased of JJ proved his leadership tonight and went out there and created plays for his team. Plain and simple, JJ wanted this championship more than York, and the way they played tonight they really deserved to win. All of JJ players came out and played with heart and that's exactly why they got the win. I give much credit to the coach and the players of JJ, they played a great game tonight.

On a sad note, I truly believe that York went out with no class. Losing a game is no reason what so ever to create a brawl like they did. Not only did they embarrass themselves, the school and the athletic program, but they also embarrassed CUNYAC. Their is no excuse for the type of behavior that was displayed out there tonight.    

Excellent post: Insightful, mature and objective.

It just looked like John Jay had a lot more composure than York.  

It sure did. John Jay played with a lot of poise and confidence the whole game. York players were bickering among themselves throughout the second half and the Cardinals wilted down the stretch.

 But it was a real exciting game, some sick dunks, and godfrey making Phipps fall was as good as it gets...

It was a very exciting game. Excellent atmosphere with a very large and boisterous crowd. I'd say there were about 2,600 people in attendance. Those sick dunks were all by York's Marcel Esonwune. He's one of the few players ever in the CUNYAC who can dunk the ball in traffic. He's probably the best dunker in conference history. Mascal's ankle-breaking move against Phipps was also a classic. Mascal is one of the most entertaining players to watch in the Atlantic region.

[xalva66]

Rhodes,

Do you put him up there above Braheen Cotton?

[Queens]

Marcel Esonwune had some great dunks and he dunks with such ease, but lets not forget about vaughn masons dunk when he came down the lane and threw it down real hard...best dunk of the night in my opinion (best dunk ive seen live in awhile).

But the magic carpet ride for John Jay will come to an end...my prediction is they head up to Plattsburgh and lose by 30...Not to rain on their parade, just a reality check...

Just for the Record...Plattsburgh my pick to win the National Championship, you heard it here first

[Rhodes Scholar]

Rhodes,

Do you put him up there above Braheen Cotton?

I think Esonwune is better off the dribble and better in traffic. Cotton was better on alley-oops. In fact, Cotton is the only player in CUNY history who could routinely convert alley-oop dunks. And, of course, Cotton was the better overall player. Although I do believe Esonwune is underrated and will be all-conference if he sticks around.

Marcel Esonwune had some great dunks and he dunks with such ease, but lets not forget about vaughn masons dunk when he came down the lane and threw it down real hard...best dunk of the night in my opinion (best dunk ive seen live in awhile).

I totally forgot about Mason's dunk. You're probably right about that being the best dunk of the game. It was a serious slam off the dribble in traffic.

[Zak Ivkovic]

While the finish to the game wasn't pretty, I would completely disagree with some of the posts here as far as it being a "brawl". Clearly there were two punches thrown and the players were separated by their teammates and the excellent refs, while the two head coaches did a great job of preventing any further damage. The term brawl insinuates large numbers of people in a punching free for all - which definitely was not the case. Yes, the stoppage took a few minutes while the refs got all the techs and ejections in order - which they did quite well - my kudos go to the two coaches.

Also, someone said bench-clearing - which DID NOT HAPPEN. One York player left the bench and coach St. John grabbed him...I was by the scorers table and saw the entire incident. I will have to look at the video to make sure of any other issues.

Lastly say what you will, but both coaches made sure that teams shook hands after the game and stayed the entire time while the other team was receiving their awards and medals. So kindly don't rush to judgement. Congrats to John Jay and Baruch and the atmosphere was great all night long.

[Coach AG]

No it was not a brawl, but clearly uncalled for by York.  I still think the players should be punished for the ECACs.

[NYBB]

Marcel is a 6'6'' freshman so you'll be seeing a few more of those dunks i guess.

[Danny Weismuller]

Any word if the NYC area will host a first round regional game in the NCAA's?

[Knightstalker]

Any word if the NYC area will host a first round regional game in the NCAA's?

That will be determined when the brackets are set.

[knight_life]

I wouldn't be surprised if all those players are dressed and play in the first round of the NCAA's. Unless NCAA rules interfere, they will likely play.

[Queens]

That would be a damn shame if John Jay lost players due to the immature acts of the York players...Johny Jay is going to need all there players for there first round game being that they are going to be one of the lowest seeds in the tournament.  They dont need to start with a disadvantage.

That York/John Jay game is as close to a brawl as your gonna get in College basketball game.  Bottom line is its what people expected from the York players, I wanted to leave with about 2 minutes left being that the game was over, but my friend said to me lets stay till the end i think there might be a fight.  And sure enough, York didnt let us down.  But that was an excellent point that the Refs and the coaching staffs did a great job keeping it as calm as possible.

Can't wait to see who John Jay has to play in the first round...

[CityD3]

On York's athletic website, there is no mention of the classless acts of the players in the championship recap write-up. I understand they don't wanna embarrass themselves, but you can't just sweep it under the rug like it never happened. If I were to bet on it, york will have all players in uniform for the ECAC's which would just embarrass the program even more. The CUNY should also step up and suspend the players for the first conference few games next season.