MBB: City University of New York Athletic Conference

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BubbaChuck3

Richard Stockton is always a solid team. New Paltz usually is as well. Old Westbury is a top team in Skyline.. All of the PA teams from the Albright tournament should be tough.

An interesting thing to consider, as Brooklyn College dramatically increased their talent level in the last year, certain established teams such as an NYU, a Ramapo or a Plattsburgh State may not be so inclined to play Brooklyn College because of the very real fear that they may fall at the hands of a CUNY  team, which certainly would not help the aforementioned team's strength of schedule and would be much more of a quality win for Brooklyn.
So it seems that Coach Podias has assembled a quality schedule full of teams that are not afraid to play them.

bxballer

how about york they beat  nyu twice last season and also they beat ramapo

Pat Coleman

Quote from: BubbaChuck3 on July 01, 2008, 04:47:27 AM
Richard Stockton is always a solid team. New Paltz usually is as well. Old Westbury is a top team in Skyline.. All of the PA teams from the Albright tournament should be tough.

An interesting thing to consider, as Brooklyn College dramatically increased their talent level in the last year, certain established teams such as an NYU, a Ramapo or a Plattsburgh State may not be so inclined to play Brooklyn College because of the very real fear that they may fall at the hands of a CUNY  team, which certainly would not help the aforementioned team's strength of schedule and would be much more of a quality win for Brooklyn.
So it seems that Coach Podias has assembled a quality schedule full of teams that are not afraid to play them.

All the PA schools in the Albright tournament ... which are who again?

Let's not go overboard and suggest that with 400 schools in Division III that people are afraid to play Brooklyn, or any CUNYAC team right now. That's a little overboard.

Strength of schedule is not dependent on wins or losses anymore.

New Paltz? Let's try some facts:
http://www.d3hoops.com/school/PLTZ/mens/2008
2008 6-19 (2-14)
2007 11-14 (4-12)
2006 5-20 (2-14)
2005 9-16 (3-13)
2004 6-18 (4-12)
2003 11-17 (6-10)
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Rhodes Scholar

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Pat: I agree that Brooklyn's nonconference schedule isn't stellar, but it's stronger than it has been in recent years. Also last year's Brooklyn team was much better than those of recent memory. While it's true that the Bridges are not likely to be a national powerhouse, it is probable that they'll be strong by CUNYAC standards and may be one of the better teams in the Atlantic region.

Does anyone have any info on who's going to return for Hunter next year? Are Kelly, Millien and DeLuca coming back? I wonder if there will be a whole new roster--which has been the pattern the last few years.

Also, any word on Lehman? The Lightning have been down in recent years. I'm wondering if they're going to be strong once again.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Rhodes Scholar on July 01, 2008, 01:46:40 PM
Pat: I agree that Brooklyn's nonconference schedule isn't stellar, but it's stronger than it has been in recent years.

So it should be "very tough non-conference schedule compared to recent years." :)
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Rhodes Scholar

Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 01, 2008, 03:48:44 PM

So it should be "very tough non-conference schedule compared to recent years." :)

I'd prefer "tougher," rather than "very tough," but I ain't one to nit pick. :) Dropping Pratt and Berkeley was certainly a good step in upgrading the schedule.

Pat Coleman

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BubbaChuck3

CSI should be a solid middle of the pack CUNY team.

They lose Mesjaz and Blackett, however they do have a solid returning backcourt in Yocum and Amenerios, albeit a small one.

They also have a very impressive recruit coming into the school.

John Romeo is a 6'4 forward out of St. Edmund High School in Brooklyn. John is a tough forward with long arms and an outstanding knack for the ball. He has range out to the 3pt line and will be able to score both inside and out.
He should be all CUNY as a freshman and go on to be the best rebounder in the history of the CUNYAC. I saw him many times during the past 2 years as I am an administrator at one of the schools within St. Edmund's division. Romeo can potentially carry CSI on his back and make them into a contender next season.

  Let us see if this promising player lives up to his potential.

Knightstalker

The trouble with the CUNY schools is that you never know from one year to the next who is going to be there.  There is an awful lot of attrition in the CUNY.  There have been years that I thought a CUNY team that was good the previous year with mostly underclassmen would be better the next and then they lose half their players.  Unfortunately it is the nature of the CUNY schools that students transfer a lot, drop out or have to drop down to part time status due to other obligations.  I would love to see the CUNY get better, it would only help the entire region, but I fear they will continue with business as usual.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

NYBB

any CUNY team during any given year has the chance to be frickin amazing, depending on the transfers they get in.  For example, Baruch with Lou Karis, Davidson & Fadicka. 


bxballer

who in cuny has a better chance of winning a championship in cuny 

Rhodes Scholar

Quote from: Knightstalker on July 01, 2008, 08:25:57 PM
The trouble with the CUNY schools is that you never know from one year to the next who is going to be there.  There is an awful lot of attrition in the CUNY.  There have been years that I thought a CUNY team that was good the previous year with mostly underclassmen would be better the next and then they lose half their players.  Unfortunately it is the nature of the CUNY schools that students transfer a lot, drop out or have to drop down to part time status due to other obligations.  I would love to see the CUNY get better, it would only help the entire region, but I fear they will continue with business as usual.
I agree with you about the problems that plague the CUNYAC schools. As far as the Atlantic region goes, it's pretty weak. I think the CUNYAC has gotten a little stronger the past few years, while the NJAC has gotten weaker and the Skyline has really deteriorated.

Quote from: NYBB on July 01, 2008, 11:23:12 PM
any CUNY team during any given year has the chance to be frickin amazing, depending on the transfers they get in.  For example, Baruch with Lou Karis, Davidson & Fadicka. 
The 2006 Baruch team was the best CUNYAC team since the 1998 Hunter squad. Unfortunately when tournament time came around the Bearcats were horrible. They were blown out at home by a very mediocre Villa Julie team, 86-71.

BklynBasketball

Quote from: BubbaChuck3 on July 01, 2008, 05:00:37 PM
CSI should be a solid middle of the pack CUNY team.

They lose Mesjaz and Blackett, however they do have a solid returning backcourt in Yocum and Amenerios, albeit a small one.

They also have a very impressive recruit coming into the school.

John Romeo is a 6'4 forward out of St. Edmund High School in Brooklyn. John is a tough forward with long arms and an outstanding knack for the ball. He has range out to the 3pt line and will be able to score both inside and out.
He should be all CUNY as a freshman and go on to be the best rebounder in the history of the CUNYAC. I saw him many times during the past 2 years as I am an administrator at one of the schools within St. Edmund's division. Romeo can potentially carry CSI on his back and make them into a contender next season.

  Let us see if this promising player lives up to his potential.

Living in bklyn i have seen Romeo play for the past 3 years or so, first off I would like to state the positives. He runs well, is athletic and a VERY hard worker. He was always one of the hardest working players on the floor every time i have seen him play.

With that said, and in no way do i mean to disrespect a young man, a young d3 student athlete at that, but let us not get carried away here. Your assessment of Romeo is WAY over the top. Romeo was not even the best player on his hs team. When we talk about things such as the "best rebounder in the history of the CUNYAC," we are getting ahead of ourselves. Neil Edwards, Chris Peterson, John Thomas, Gary Blackett...these are guys in recent history who were better rebounders than Romeo will most lkely be and none of them were, to my knowledge, the best in the CuNY's history.

Past that, Romeo is an undersized 4 and must learn the 3 at the college level. Doing this and "carrying" a team as a freshman is extremely difficult. Carrying a team as a freshman is extremely difficult in and of itself.

Bottom line, and you can argue the previous points I made, the proof is in the pudding. I think Romeo is a nice addition to the CSI squad, and a needed component for them after the loss of Blackett. I think he will be a very good role player as a freshman. With hard work, which it seems he doesnt mind, he can be a cornerstone for their team by his junior and senior year and really do well.

In terms of him being a savior and an all time cuny player, he simply is not that good. That may sound harsh, so I apologize...because the truth is I love his game, his heart and his hustle. I love to watch players like him get after it on the court, we just need to be careful about touting players and saviors and all time bests, when thats not reality. In my opinion.

Danny Weismuller

What up NA,

From what I've heard around the neighborhood, I have to agree with you. Seems a bit much from what was said by Bubbachuck. 

BUT... I don't think David Paul was looked at as being a stud coming out of high school either. I'm not saying he has that potential but he sounds more like an athletic Nebalakis from what people were saying.


bxballer

who is this romeo kid