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Jack Parkman

Quote from: royhobbs on April 21, 2009, 06:37:45 PM
JP-Does Cal Lu have a chance of winning two? PP looks like they can score on anyone. Does anyone know why PP's Church didn't pitch vs Chapman? Looks like a must win weekend for the Panthers if there's any hope for a shot at the Regionals, by their record you have to wonder.

That is a great question.  Cal Lu has had some pretty lights out ptching this year but P-P has hit the snot out of the ball.  I really don't know of any good pitching that P-P has faced this year, except Nicolson from Redlands and they crushed him.  I think Gelber from Cal Lu throwing at P-P (my assumption) is good since he is a lefty.  Rowe and Tigert have been a great duo in double headers (see Redlands series).  I do think they can win 2, but I think the entire series will be high scoring.  P-P hasn't really impressed me with their pitching so who knows.  Hope it is a good series!

oldcat

Quote from: royhobbs on April 21, 2009, 06:37:45 PM
JP-Does Cal Lu have a chance of winning two? PP looks like they can score on anyone. Does anyone know why PP's Church didn't pitch vs Chapman? Looks like a must win weekend for the Panthers if there's any hope for a shot at the Regionals, by their record you have to wonder.

I talked to a Pomona player after the P-P and Chapman series and asked why Church didn't pitch, and he said that his arm was bugging him a little so he was going to take a week off. I believe that he will pitch this upcoming weekend, or at least I hope he does. It is going to be a great series, wish I could watch it.

OxyBob

Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 02:18:30 AM
I do think they can win 2, but I think the entire series will be high scoring.  P-P hasn't really impressed me with their pitching so who knows.

Team ERA as of April 19:

Cal Lutheran 3.24, 8th NCAA
Pomona 3.92, 30th NCAA

OxyBob

Jack Parkman

Quote from: OxyBob on April 22, 2009, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 02:18:30 AM
I do think they can win 2, but I think the entire series will be high scoring.  P-P hasn't really impressed me with their pitching so who knows.

Team ERA as of April 19:

Cal Lutheran 3.24, 8th NCAA
Pomona 3.92, 30th NCAA

OxyBob

I know, I probably sound like an idiot saying P-P's pitching hasnt impressed me but they gave up 18 runs in 3 games with Claremont, 23 in 3 games with Chapman, and 11 in game one against Redlands.  Obviously giving up that many runs doesn't matter when you are scoring as many as they are.

P-P Fan

Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 22, 2009, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 02:18:30 AM
I do think they can win 2, but I think the entire series will be high scoring.  P-P hasn't really impressed me with their pitching so who knows.

Team ERA as of April 19:

Cal Lutheran 3.24, 8th NCAA
Pomona 3.92, 30th NCAA

OxyBob

I know, I probably sound like an idiot saying P-P's pitching hasnt impressed me but they gave up 18 runs in 3 games with Claremont, 23 in 3 games with Chapman, and 11 in game one against Redlands.  Obviously giving up that many runs doesn't matter when you are scoring as many as they are.

There's no doubt that the Hens have been giving up some runs as of late... however 7 of the 11 in the redlands game were given up in the ninth inning by a freshman who is unlikely to pitch again. As for the CMS games, Mandelblatt was a bit shaky, but everyone else did pretty well- especially the bullpen (0 runs in over 12 innings). The Chapman series again featured a poor start by Mandel, and Church was out.

There's no question though that PP has generally had some trouble keeping strong offenses at bay. I'm not sure how Cal Lu stacks up to CMS and Chapman, but I think the Hens' staff should be fine this weekend.

Side Note- I don't want to jinx him... but Hedman has a legit shot at a D3 triple crown. Does anybody know if that's happened before or if anyone's come close in recent memory?

BigPoppa

Quote from: P-P Fan on April 22, 2009, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 22, 2009, 11:26:11 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on April 22, 2009, 02:18:30 AM
I do think they can win 2, but I think the entire series will be high scoring.  P-P hasn't really impressed me with their pitching so who knows.

Team ERA as of April 19:

Cal Lutheran 3.24, 8th NCAA
Pomona 3.92, 30th NCAA

OxyBob

I know, I probably sound like an idiot saying P-P's pitching hasnt impressed me but they gave up 18 runs in 3 games with Claremont, 23 in 3 games with Chapman, and 11 in game one against Redlands.  Obviously giving up that many runs doesn't matter when you are scoring as many as they are.

There's no doubt that the Hens have been giving up some runs as of late... however 7 of the 11 in the redlands game were given up in the ninth inning by a freshman who is unlikely to pitch again. As for the CMS games, Mandelblatt was a bit shaky, but everyone else did pretty well- especially the bullpen (0 runs in over 12 innings). The Chapman series again featured a poor start by Mandel, and Church was out.

There's no question though that PP has generally had some trouble keeping strong offenses at bay. I'm not sure how Cal Lu stacks up to CMS and Chapman, but I think the Hens' staff should be fine this weekend.

Side Note- I don't want to jinx him... but Hedman has a legit shot at a D3 triple crown. Does anybody know if that's happened before or if anyone's come close in recent memory?

I am not certain, but I think that Oshkosh's Tim Jorgensen may have been close in 1995. I know he lead the nation in HRs and RBIs, but may have lost the AVG portion to a teammate, Jeff Zappa.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

P-P Fan

Quote from: BigPoppa on April 22, 2009, 02:33:49 PM

I am not certain, but I think that Oshkosh's Tim Jorgensen may have been close in 1995. I know he lead the nation in HRs and RBIs, but may have lost the AVG portion to a teammate, Jeff Zappa.
I just checked the NCAA archives for 95 and it looks Jorgenson ended up 4th in average... still quite impressive. Especially given the outrageous number of home runs and RBI's he had. I think I'm gonna sift through the archives and see if anyone has done it/come close since 89 (when the archives start).

OshDude

Quote from: P-P Fan on April 22, 2009, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 22, 2009, 02:33:49 PM

I am not certain, but I think that Oshkosh's Tim Jorgensen may have been close in 1995. I know he lead the nation in HRs and RBIs, but may have lost the AVG portion to a teammate, Jeff Zappa.
I just checked the NCAA archives for 95 and it looks Jorgenson ended up 4th in average... still quite impressive. Especially given the outrageous number of home runs and RBI's he had. I think I'm gonna sift through the archives and see if anyone has done it/come close since 89 (when the archives start).
If TJ didn't do it, I'll buy you a brat and soda at the World Series if anyone has.

BigPoppa

Quote from: OshDude on April 22, 2009, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: P-P Fan on April 22, 2009, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 22, 2009, 02:33:49 PM

I am not certain, but I think that Oshkosh's Tim Jorgensen may have been close in 1995. I know he lead the nation in HRs and RBIs, but may have lost the AVG portion to a teammate, Jeff Zappa.
I just checked the NCAA archives for 95 and it looks Jorgenson ended up 4th in average... still quite impressive. Especially given the outrageous number of home runs and RBI's he had. I think I'm gonna sift through the archives and see if anyone has done it/come close since 89 (when the archives start).
If TJ didn't do it, I'll buy you a brat and soda at the World Series if anyone has.

WOW! I would do most things for a brat... I think you are right though. That guy was the best there was at the plate.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

P-P Fan

Just went through the archives (admittedly rather quickly) and couldn't find anyone that did it. Here are some guys that came close though:
1990- Brian Mercado, ECSU
1st HR's, 1st RBI's, 11th BA
1998- Matt Daly, Ferrum
1st HR's, 1st RBI's, 6th BA
2001- Steve Osborne, St Joe's (ME)
1st HR's, 2nd RBI's, 8th BA
2002- Toddy Meyer, Alvernia
1st HR's, 1st RBI's, 2nd BA
also, last year Derek David of McMurray led the nation in HR's and RBI's but finished 49th in BA.
So it hasn't been done in D3 as far back as the records go, but that's only 1989.

I hope Hedman doesn't come on these message boards...  :-\

BigPoppa

1996- Oshkosh's Tim Jorgensen was 1st in HRs, 1St in RBI and 4th in AVG. (He might be the closest).
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

IkeepScore

FYI....Big match up for the beavers this weekend Cal Tech plays La Sierra...should be fun!!!

Gray Fox

Quote from: IkeepScore on April 22, 2009, 04:27:09 PM
FYI....Big match up for the beavers this weekend Cal Tech plays La Sierra...should be fun!!!
La Sierra has two wins this year.  One is over Principia and the other is a 12-5 victory over the Beavers in February.  Cal Tach will be out for revenge.
Fierce When Roused

royhobbs

Can Cal Tech break their losing streak?  It would be too bad for LaSierra, but front page news for Cal Tech! They might invent a new way to celebrate! It looks like those two teams combined were six of Cal Lu's victories. That can't help the strength of schedule. Cal Lu's ERA maybe going up this weekend against PP! Hope there's a lot of runs scored this weekend by both PP and CLU. Hedman and Hartman both have great numbers this year.

Jack Parkman

Quote from: royhobbs on April 22, 2009, 05:18:09 PM
Can Cal Tech break their losing streak?  It would be too bad for LaSierra, but front page news for Cal Tech! They might invent a new way to celebrate! It looks like those two teams combined were six of Cal Lu's victories. That can't help the strength of schedule. Cal Lu's ERA maybe going up this weekend against PP! Hope there's a lot of runs scored this weekend by both PP and CLU. Hedman and Hartman both have great numbers this year.

CLU's SOS did take a hit by playing both CIT and La Sierra.  There is no getting around playing Cal Tech, and 3 games with La Sierra is 3 wins.  Oh well.