BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Gray Fox]

I suggest you read their web site.  Go to the power point presentation.

http://www.gocaltech.com/prospective_athlete/index

http://www.gocaltech.com/information/Mission_Statement

[Gray Fox]

why doesnt the sciac drop cal tech and add chapman as a member, tech just doesnt seem to be very good in any athletics.(students smarts are a different story),but just talking strength of confrence.

Chapman will not become a member unless they truly understand why Cal Tech matters.

[dahlby]

Gray Fox:

Are you implying that Chapman will become a member of SCIAC if they truly understand why Cal Tech matters?

If your answer is no, then why make the statement?

If your answer is yes, then am I to assume that you have seen the criteria list?

[Gray Fox]

Gray Fox:

Are you implying that Chapman will become a member of SCIAC if they truly understand why Cal Tech matters?

If your answer is no, then why make the statement?

If your answer is yes, then am I to assume that you have seen the criteria list?

I have been following the SCIAC for fifty years.  I think I have a good feel for how they think as a group.  Cal Tech would only be one issue being considered, but I think it reflects the philosophy of the SCIAC and D3.  This has been discussed many times before as you know..

[beachlover]

Redlands over CMS 12-6 today, celebrating their 100th year of baseball.   Lots of alums, coaches, friends and family in the stands and on the field for the ceremonies.

[dahlby]

Gray Fox:

You appear (to me at least) to have dodged my posting. I have only been following D3 for going on 25 years, and following Chapman, and their philosophy regarding athletics, since before switching to D3 from D2.

The change of divisions for Chapman has brought in a different overall type of student.  The term student athlete as it applies to D3 is part of that Chapman philosophy. Every year Chapman produces scholar athletes in almost every sport.

There are reasons that Chapman might be offered membership in SCIAC, and reasons they might not. I don't think that understanding why Cal Tech matters is applicable, as Chapman does stress the student athlete D3 philosophy.

Athletics will continue to be a critical part of the college experience at Chapman, whether they do or do not receive an invitation from SCIAC.

[El Hombre]

Redlands over CMS 12-6 today, celebrating their 100th year of baseball.   Lots of alums, coaches, friends and family in the stands and on the field for the ceremonies.

Redlands should officially wrap up the SCIAC title today with a win against Pomona Pitzer.  The West Region is starting to take shape.   I expect them to be joined by Linfield, Texas-Tyler, Chapman, and Trinity.  I do not expect any other SCIAC teams to make it via a pool C bid. 

Who might join this group? 

[CrashDavisD3]

http://www.goredlands.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/releases/20110424mx0o84

[CrashDavisD3]

Redlands has beaten 2nd place Cal Lu 3 games to 1 and La Verne 3 games to 1 this year.

[DoubleDomer]

Concerning the recent comment: "I support Cal Tech having athletics I just think they should play it at a club level."

In the interest of full and fair debate, I should note that I personally support Chapman having academic courses, I just think they should be at a club level.   

[dahlby]

Personally, whenever I read about or watch a Cal Tech sporting event, I think of the true meaning of D3 athletics. Student-Athlete, student coming first.

[DoubleDomer]

Amen.  Wish there were more like them.  These kids embody the literal meaning of amateur.

[playball]

DoubleDomer, Im kind of impressed.  21 posts, -18 karma.  It takes a true hater to achieve such a level so quickly.   

As for Caltech, yeah they don't have the greatest sports programs.  I'm sure they know this also.  However, these kids are living their dreams out by playing collegiately, a level that most other people never are able to.  So more power to them!   

[DoubleDomer]

Uh, well, that's kind of EXACTLY what I was saying.  "Amateur" derives from the Latin amator, or "lover."  It's a high compliment in my book--referring to STUDENT-athletes who compete for love of the competition and the game rather than for the puffery and bluster and shenanigans that infect college sports at all levels.

As for my karma rating--and apropos of my comment immediately above on bluster and shenanigans--you'll see (if you track my post history) that those negative points were hard earned with the lower primates on the WIAC board, debating whether the august institution of higher learning known as UW-Whitewater (if you don't know them, just think of them as the ANTI-CalTech) should be competing in Division III football at all.  (Here's a hint:  It should not, and a sensitive statistical analysis proves it, but that's not the kind of bread and circuses that the WIAC crowd embraces.)

So--nice to meet you.  Sorry you mistook my point.  Guess I'll be more literal in the future.

[Gray Fox]

Uh, well, that's kind of EXACTLY what I was saying.  "Amateur" derives from the Latin amator, or "lover."  It's a high compliment in my book--referring to STUDENT-athletes who compete for love of the competition and the game rather than for the puffery and bluster and shenanigans that infect college sports at all levels.

As for my karma rating--and apropos of my comment immediately above on bluster and shenanigans--you'll see (if you track my post history) that those negative points were hard earned with the lower primates on the WIAC board, debating whether the august institution of higher learning known as UW-Whitewater (if you don't know them, just think of them as the ANTI-CalTech) should be competing in Division III football at all.  (Here's a hint:  It should not, and a sensitive statistical analysis proves it, but that's not the kind of bread and circuses that the WIAC crowd embraces.)

So--nice to meet you.  Sorry you mistook my point.  Guess I'll be more literal in the future.

Danny Jones would disagree about UWW, but your fight is worth a +k from me.