BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[ECSUalum]

ECSU-  Just take a look at the Cal Tech admission standards and that will say enough.  It is odd though, how Cal Tech and MIT can be sister schools but MIT can have some decent athletic teams and one killer black jack team with a smoking hot blonde on it......oh wait, she was only hot in the movie???

On a side note-  Cal Cal Tech finally win a game with the 2 other worst teams in the SCIAC left?  Yeah me either.  No matter how bad Cal Lutheran and Oxy might be there is no way Cal Tech can beat them.

JP,  Thanks for your response, and certainly understand admission standards.

just think that maybe they should go club baseball and SCIAC admit a team that  can provide some competition.

it is like SCIAC has allowed a low level high school team to participate in NCAA D-III Conference that has some pretty good teams associated with it.

However must be nice from a "run up the stats standpoint" for other SCIAC schools

[ECSUalum]

just think that maybe they should go club baseball and SCIAC admit a team that  can provide some competition.

Apparently you don't get D-III sports in general or the SCIAC in particular. Caltech's mission regarding sports is clear. I'm proud to have them in the conference.

http://www.thesciac.org/information/about/index

http://www.athletics.caltech.edu/information/mission.html

OxyBob

OxyBob,

Stay cool, i was just asking a few questions:

Mission says:

purpose of promoting and governing competition in intercollegiate sports.

I just dont see how beating up on Caltech by double digit scores for the last 4 years or more is promoting competition.  ie is beneficial for the Conference or the students of Caltech, ( must be disheartening)

They could compete against teams at there level, have a true competitive environment and still attain the mission

I assure you I understand D-III Sports

[ECSUalum]

Mission says:

purpose of promoting and governing competition in intercollegiate sports.

I just dont see how beating up on Caltech by double digit scores for the last 4 years or more is promoting competition.  ie is beneficial for the Conference or the students of Caltech, ( must be disheartening)

They could compete against teams at there level, have a true competitive environment and still attain the mission

It's useless to debate the issue with someone who defines competition by wins and losses. Caltech doesn't:

http://www.admissions.caltech.edu/living/athletics

Caltech Athletics are NCAA Division III Athletics as they were intended to be.

If you get a chance, try and catch a showing of Quantum Hoops, the documentary about the Caltech basketball team. Maybe then you'll get it.


"a group of young people who face formidable academic pressure and who value their sports experience for reasons that transcend winning. . . . Their lessons are learned . . . from teamwork, developing friendships, managing time, and turning the disappointment of frequent losses into a resolve to do better the next game." Caltech Athletics are NCAA Division III Athletics as they were intended to be. Anyone who wants to participate in sports is given the opportunity to do so.

got it!!  thanks for the clarification, I guess i have been embedded in the dog eat dog college baseball D-I,II,and in some cases D-III athletic experience too long.
OxyBob

[HALLEBASEBALL]

Hats off to Students that play for the passion.  Quick story Scott Akamine Chapman "05" told  a scout who offered him free agent contract that he was going to Europe on a planned Graduation reward that he would go after he returned. Well we know what the club said. Scott returned from his trip and attended Pepperdine Law School. He graduaded "08" and is a Lawyer in So. Cal. It takes brains to make the right decision.

[HALLEBASEBALL]

Mission says:

purpose of promoting and governing competition in intercollegiate sports.

I just dont see how beating up on Caltech by double digit scores for the last 4 years or more is promoting competition.  ie is beneficial for the Conference or the students of Caltech, ( must be disheartening)

They could compete against teams at there level, have a true competitive environment and still attain the mission

It's useless to debate the issue with someone who defines competition by wins and losses. Caltech doesn't:

http://www.admissions.caltech.edu/living/athletics

Caltech Athletics are NCAA Division III Athletics as they were intended to be.

If you get a chance, try and catch a showing of Quantum Hoops, the documentary about the Caltech basketball team. Maybe then you'll get it.


"a group of young people who face formidable academic pressure and who value their sports experience for reasons that transcend winning. . . . Their lessons are learned . . . from teamwork, developing friendships, managing time, and turning the disappointment of frequent losses into a resolve to do better the next game." Caltech Athletics are NCAA Division III Athletics as they were intended to be. Anyone who wants to participate in sports is given the opportunity to do so.

got it!!  thanks for the clarification, I guess i have been embedded in the dog eat dog college baseball D-I,II,and in some cases D-III athletic experience too long.
OxyBob

[pomonaalum]

We came really close to losing to Cal Tech back when I was playing, maybe '96 or '97.  Anyhow, Tech had one pretty decent player who pitched against us, and we were down 2-1 much of the game.  I think we ended up winning 3-2 or 4-2, something like that.  That kid ended up making one of the All-SCIAC teams as a utility player.  That was the same year that we "set" an NCAA D3 record for most runs scored by a losing team (9 inning game)...final game of the year at Redlands, we maybe scored 10 or 11 in the 1st and ended up losing 28-27.

Edited for correct dates and info.

[Browneagle64]

Congrats to the SCIAC co-champs on their very strong victory (15-2) against the hens yesterday. As expected, the panthers showed us just why they are considered the best in the west and in the nation with this strong performance. Best of luck to the hens this afternoon as they both battle it out once again on the field.

[pomonaalum]

15-2 is quite a drubbing...but more important in the grand scheme of things for Pomona was Oxy beating ULV yesterday in game 1 of their series, giving ULV 4 losses now in conference.  Will be interesting to see what happens in the remaining two games, as well as with Redlands-Whittier (rain out yesterday?)

[Gray Fox]

just think that maybe they should go club baseball and SCIAC admit a team that  can provide some competition.

Apparently you don't get D-III sports in general or the SCIAC in particular. Caltech's mission regarding sports is clear. I'm proud to have them in the conference.

http://www.thesciac.org/information/about/index

http://www.athletics.caltech.edu/information/mission.html

OxyBob

OxyBob,

Stay cool, i was just asking a few questions:

Mission says:

purpose of promoting and governing competition in intercollegiate sports.

I just dont see how beating up on Caltech by double digit scores for the last 4 years or more is promoting competition.  ie is beneficial for the Conference or the students of Caltech, ( must be disheartening)

They could compete against teams at there level, have a true competitive environment and still attain the mission

I assure you I understand D-III Sports

Caltech does well in other sports.  Baseball has the problem of needing pitchers.  In some past years they have had to not compete in a full SCIAC schedule because of a shortage.   Otherwise they would face a situation I read about in the LA Times this morning. A team in Japan finally had to forfeit when the pitcher reached 250 pitches and was still in the second inning.

[Browneagle64]

Congrats to the Tigers on their win against the Leo's. On any other given day i would have pulled for the leo's, but, i'm glad my Tigers took this one away with a strong performance.

[Browneagle64]

Congrats to the stags on their big win against a very good Cal-State East bay team. I honestly thought the Pio's would have taken this game away from CMS, yet, was surprised that stags come out on fire. This result just shows us why no team should no be taken lightly by any opponent from here on out.( regardless of the team's current record. ehhhmmm, the Leo's against my Tigers this past friday.)


FYI: yesterday's scores

   Whittier  2  Redlands  3  Final   
   
   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  14  Cal St. East Bay  12  Final   
   
   Whittier  7  Redlands  8

[Jack Parkman]

Here is something else that happened over the weekend.  Cal Lutheran's Slimack picked up win #400.

http://www.clusports.com/baseball/news/4607/

[baseballroxmysox]

Congrats to the stags on their big win against a very good Cal-State East bay team. I honestly thought the Pio's would have taken this game away from CMS, yet, was surprised that stags come out on fire. This result just shows us why no team should no be taken lightly by any opponent from here on out.( regardless of the team's current record. ehhhmmm, the Leo's against my Tigers this past friday.)


FYI: yesterday's scores

   Whittier  2  Redlands  3  Final   
   
   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  14  Cal St. East Bay  12  Final   
   
   Whittier  7  Redlands  8

Roger that eagle!!! This weekends game Chapman vs. P-P second game on Saturday in which P-P won HANDILY over the Panthers 6-1 was the result of some good pitching by the HAND of P-P or was it the left HAND or was it the right I am not sure   on the other HAND woops there goes that pun again anyway the ball was jumping off the bat for the Panthers but it was always right at a defensive player and it seemed to go the other way for the hens they were finding the holes where someone wasn't, you could tell by the number of hits by Chapman. congrats Pomona P

[beachlover]

Looks like PP has the SCIAC championship well in hand.  Congratulations on another great season.  Interesting strategy against Chapman this weekend that paid off with a "W" against the D3's  #1 ranked team.   

Does the SCIAC traditionally only send one to the post season?   Don't know that LV or Redlands would get a look based upon records.  Just curious to hear from the experts.   

[sagehenalum47]

baseballroxmysox,  i appreciate the puns      I got a chance to drive down to orange to see saturday's doubleheader (dont know what happened friday- 15-2? I guess mandelblatt didnt have his good stuff??) and while game 1 was sloppy, it seemed to me PP could have won had they played like they normally do: they were up 5-2 and got a few bad hops, made a few mistakes and gave up a costly 3-spot right before yacko came in and shut them down. also drew hedman had 4 long warning track flyballs ( 2 in the first game and 2 in the second game, in addition to a HR in game 1) on a day where the wind was blowing in hard. all 5 would have been out at PP's field or if it was not windy. 1 of these balls was against yacko with a man on, when they were down 1. if that goes out, its a whole different ballgame.
      while chapman hit the ball hard at times in game 2, church pitched VERY smart. he recognized nothing was leaving the ballpark due to teh dimensions and the wind, and he used this to his advantage, letting his defense do the work for him.
      it should be an interesting last 2 weeks of the season and regional (hopefully for PP!)