BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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Browneagle64

Don't get to ahead of your self beachlover. The hens still have games against two very good team's in "the Who" and the Leo's.
I can assure you right now that these games will be difficult from here on out because 1) these teams (the who and leo's still have fuel in their tanks and eager to prove their final points in conference play, 2) time is running out for seniors wishing to win more games and 3) the race for the crown betweem the pups, hens and even the leo's is NOT determined just yet. Like any other sport, anything can happen on any given saturday.
Don't be surprised if the "Who" knocks off the hens during game play this weekend. i am sure former Cal Lu star and current Rockies pitcher (even though he's on the 15 day DL) Jason Hirsch will make a surprise visit to his old stomping ground on friday to encourage his former school to go all out and win these last games. (And yes my Dodgers will beat Mr. Hirsch's current club this weekend :P)
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beachlover

Thanks Browneagle.  Guess I'm a rookie at these things.    ???

Just seems like P/P is in control, but as they say... any team on any given day.   Looking at the schedule, is it usual for many teams to have 6 conference games left ( most of the SCIAC) and two teams (Redlands/CalTech) only have 3?

Next two weekends should produce some great games.


Ralph Turner

Quote from: beachlover on April 22, 2008, 11:00:32 PM
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Just seems like P/P is in control, but as they say... any team on any given day.   Looking at the schedule, is it usual for many teams to have 6 conference games left ( most of the SCIAC) and two teams (Redlands/CalTech) only have 3?
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The SCIAC has 11 weekends for the conference to play seven 3-game series.

Redlands and Cal Tech have played 6 of the seven series thru last weekend.

gatekeper43

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 22, 2008, 11:22:06 PM
Quote from: beachlover on April 22, 2008, 11:00:32 PM
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Just seems like P/P is in control, but as they say... any team on any given day.   Looking at the schedule, is it usual for many teams to have 6 conference games left ( most of the SCIAC) and two teams (Redlands/CalTech) only have 3?
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The SCIAC has 11 weekends for the conference to play seven 3-game series.

Redlands and Cal Tech have played 6 of the seven series thru last weekend.

With P-P's win at Chapman last weekend what are Chapman's chances of being dethroned over the next 2 wekend's? now that there is a kink in there armor with there lack of a third starter is this a sign of old Chapman that only really have two bonifide starters. i realize that Sigmond is 7-1 but can the freshman hold his own?
   I guess that with enough of this high powered offense behind him he will do just fine. I see Chapman going to the end with the three starters and Yacko closing the door. I would love to have that problem as a coach.

baseballroxmysox

Quote from: sagehenalum47 on April 22, 2008, 12:40:05 AM
baseballroxmysox,  i appreciate the puns  :P    I got a chance to drive down to orange to see saturday's doubleheader (dont know what happened friday- 15-2? I guess mandelblatt didnt have his good stuff??) and while game 1 was sloppy, it seemed to me PP could have won had they played like they normally do: they were up 5-2 and got a few bad hops, made a few mistakes and gave up a costly 3-spot right before yacko came in and shut them down. also drew hedman had 4 long warning track flyballs ( 2 in the first game and 2 in the second game, in addition to a HR in game 1) on a day where the wind was blowing in hard. all 5 would have been out at PP's field or if it was not windy. 1 of these balls was against yacko with a man on, when they were down 1. if that goes out, its a whole different ballgame.
      while chapman hit the ball hard at times in game 2, church pitched VERY smart. he recognized nothing was leaving the ballpark due to teh dimensions and the wind, and he used this to his advantage, letting his defense do the work for him.
      it should be an interesting last 2 weeks of the season and regional (hopefully for PP!)  ;)

How long does it take PP to post the box score (play by play) for Friday's game?  It's still not up.  PP had 2 HARD hits to RT field.  The first one went to RT-Center and Mike Vass (chapman) jumped-hit the wall and was able to hold onto the ball for the out.  The next inning another one was hit (not as deep) to RT -Vass caught it,  then dropped it.  PP scored it as a hit, but it was clearly an error.  Was it Drew Hedman??

Jack Parkman

GateKeper43-  I do not see Chapman being dethroned over the next few YEARS.  Yes they lost one to Pomona but they crushed them once and beat them in what sounds like it was a pretty good game.  Chapman will beat CSU-East Bay, they will sweep Menlo, and it really doesn't matter what they do vs. Sonoma St. since they are D-II.  I also do not see Chapman having any problems in Dallas next weekend.

Pomona does not exactly have the easiest road to the SCIAC title.  They still have Cal Lutheran for 3 and even with Cal Lutheran having a terrible year, they can still beat them.  Next weekend they have La Verne and I personally think La Verne will beat them 2 of 3.  Of course none of this matters if La Verne doesn't win all 3 this weekend.  We will see what happens.  I guess you really can't count Redlands out either, although I think they are pretty average.

Jack Parkman

RoxMySox-  I will give my input on the SID situation in the SCIAC....not very good.

Pomona is usually a few days behind on putting box-scores up.  They do an ok job of putting the scores but the boxes are sometimes tough to come by.
Claremont and Whittier are pretty lazy with the boxes too.  I thought you just had to upload them from a program ???
La Verne and Cal Lutheran are pretty good and Oxy was good most of the season but all of the sudden they are getting pretty lazy too.  In fact, I checked the OXY site today and there was nothing past the friday game vs. La Verne and now there is a story on the whole weekend but it is dated 4/19.  Pretty lame if you ask me.  Oh well, jsut my $.02 worth.

On a side not, I should say that getting box scores from the other schools when you are a visitor might be part of the problem.  Who knows.

pomonaalum

Yeah, there is an automated scorebook program that makes things pretty easy - for baseball and other sports as well.

Jack Parkman

Not easy enough I guess.  I thought those schools were full of smart people ;D

sagehenalum47

roxmysox,
       I didnt make it to the PP chapman game on fri, so I didnt see the play you were talking about, but from my days as a player there, i can tell you that the official scorer is NOT the scoreboard operator. the scoreboard operator is a random person employed by the school for student employment that often doesnt know anything about baseball, and routinely messes up counts, outs, even the score  ;D. so just because they score something a hit or an error doesnt mean the PP official scorer does. plus, you seem a bit skeptical about hedmans stats. its hard for a scorer to give someone undeserved home runs  :P

oldcat

Hedman is legit. One of the best hitters of the year that Chapman has faced. Even if he didn't play at that short porch, he still would have at least 12 bombs. If the wind wasn't blowing in on the DH against Chapman, he would of had 4 bombs. His only weakness is the fastball up and away, he likes to pull the ball. A lot of swings and misses on the outside part of the plate but bring that ball anywhere over the plate or inside and he will crush the ball.

chakote

Quote from: sagehenalum47 on April 24, 2008, 09:54:44 PM
roxmysox,
       I didnt make it to the PP chapman game on fri, so I didnt see the play you were talking about, but from my days as a player there, i can tell you that the official scorer is NOT the scoreboard operator. the scoreboard operator is a random person employed by the school for student employment that often doesnt know anything about baseball, and routinely messes up counts, outs, even the score  ;D. so just because they score something a hit or an error doesnt mean the PP official scorer does. plus, you seem a bit skeptical about hedmans stats. its hard for a scorer to give someone undeserved home runs  :P

sagehenalum----
I don't think that sox was questioning any of the homeruns that Hedman hit or has hit I think that it is more of a dropped ball by Mike Voss in right field after his great catch; Mike had his hand on the ball and it bounced in his glove twice before he dropped it. The official score keeper gave him a hit when in fact it was a error. Mike made a great catch before that play and ran into the fence and was shaken up a bit, I think that Mike's subconscience new the fence was geting close on the Hedman hit and he dropped what looked like a routine play.

Everyone knows that Hedman can hit and hit for power, as well as for average, the shots at Hart Park on Saturday were definitly bombs that were almost dead center and the fence is at 392'; Hedman hit the ball each time 391' but they were line shots that would have been off the batters eye in dead center.
In my opion I think that they would have bounced off the fence if they were hit any further. BUT definitly some great shots that would be out in any other park without a fence that deep. The wind was holding the ball up in left and in center. Any ball hit to right was getting pushed foul or down.
Success is not fatal; Failure is not final; but the courage to continue is what counts!!!
(Churchill)

baseballroxmysox

Quote from: sagehenalum47 on April 24, 2008, 09:54:44 PM
roxmysox,
       I didnt make it to the PP chapman game on fri, so I didnt see the play you were talking about, but from my days as a player there, i can tell you that the official scorer is NOT the scoreboard operator. the scoreboard operator is a random person employed by the school for student employment that often doesnt know anything about baseball, and routinely messes up counts, outs, even the score  ;D. so just because they score something a hit or an error doesnt mean the PP official scorer does. plus, you seem a bit skeptical about hedmans stats. its hard for a scorer to give someone undeserved home runs  :P

Sorry Sagehen – I didn't mean to ruffle any hen feathers :)

I was trying to find out if Hedman was the one that hit one of those hard hit balls to RT.  Without the play by play, I couldn't tell who hit them.  I was hoping to jog someone's memory by explaining the plays. 

Riddle solved (Chapman has the play by play posted)  It looks like it was Silva and Joannides that made those hits.  So it looks like Hedman has some teammates that can hit some rockets also.

beachlover

Quote from: Browneagle64 on April 22, 2008, 12:14:58 PM
Don't get to ahead of your self beachlover. The hens still have games against two very good team's in "the Who" and the Leo's.
I can assure you right now that these games will be difficult from here on out because 1) these teams (the who and leo's still have fuel in their tanks and eager to prove their final points in conference play, 2) time is running out for seniors wishing to win more games and 3) the race for the crown betweem the pups, hens and even the leo's is NOT determined just yet. Like any other sport, anything can happen on any given saturday.
Don't be surprised if the "Who" knocks off the hens during game play this weekend. i am sure former Cal Lu star and current Rockies pitcher (even though he's on the 15 day DL) Jason Hirsch will make a surprise visit to his old stomping ground on friday to encourage his former school to go all out and win these last games. (And yes my Dodgers will beat Mr. Hirsch's current club this weekend :P)

Browneagle - any chance you are going to vegas or buying a lottery ticket?   prediction was spot on today.   i'm learning..... let's wait and see, anything can happen. 


sagehenalum47

should in an interesting last 5 games. the sagehens need to step it up! ;D  this team has been pretty resiliant but they are going to need a sweep the double header tomorrow to stay in control of the SCIAC.