BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[BigPoppa]

La Verne in 2012 will play all its games on the Road. They lost their on campus field.

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Looking for a new field

2012 La Verne Schedule
Link to 2012 Schedule

LaVerne's Ben Hines's Field is the site of my ONLY ejection as a college coach(and I fully deserved it). Sad to see it go... feel like a part of me goes with it.

[CrashDavisD3]

UPCOMING GAMES
Weather looks good for baseball during the day so far. Lows in the mid-30's at night but high some days in the mid 70's
BUT Rain forecasted in 8 days from now.

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Jan. 21
UC Santa Cruz Club   @Caltech   12:00 PM   
UC Santa Cruz Club   @Caltech   3:00 PM   
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Jan. 27 
Westmont   @Pomona-Pitzer   2:00 PM   
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Jan. 28 
Alumni  @Whittier   10:00 AM   
San Diego Christian   @Cal Lutheran   11:00 AM   
Alumni  @Occidental   12:00 PM   
Pacifica @Caltech   12:00 PM   
Alumni  @La Verne   12:00 PM @ Upland Memorial Field   
Alumni  @ Chapman   1:00 PM  @Hart Park
Alumni  @Pomona-Pitzer   1:00 PM   
Alumni   @Whittier   2:00 PM   
San Diego Christian @Cal Lutheran   2:00 PM   
Pacifica @Caltech   2:30 PM   
Alumni  @La Verne   2:30 PM @ Upland Memorial Field 

[Ralph Turner]

. . . . Not to make excuses but the West can be such a dog fight that sometimes better teams get left out because it gets so jammed up. It is not always the case that the best teams are in Wisconsin, that is just the way the system is set up.

108 Stitches -
You raise an excellent point!  Here are some facts that back that up:  In 2010, the West Region had 6 teams competing.  All 6 were ranked in the top 15 nationally!   In 2011, the West Region had another bracket of 6 teams.  5 of the 6 teams were ranked in the top 20 nationally!  It makes for a great West Region, but unfortunately, only one of these nationally-ranked teams have a chance to move on.  If the tournament was set up like the NCAA basketball tournament (and each regional site had a top seed), you would likely see more West Region teams in Appleton. 

I really don't believe the NCAA will allow teams in the West Region to compete in other Regionals like they did in 2008 again...

The reasons that the NCAA won't move West Region teams to other regionals are:

1) There are fewer no Pool B bids to award.

CSU-East Bay -- gone to D-2
Chapman  -- gone to SCIAC
UDallas  -- gone to SCAC.
Menlo -- gone to NAIA.

In 2008, both Chapman and CSU-East Bay were shipped to Abilene with the 4 Pool A bids.  Pool C Linfield would have made a 7th.  Ugh.  Pool B is almost gone.  Teams are finding conferences to join.

2)  The 6 team regional needs 6 teams from this part of the country that are travel orphans.  There are essentially no other travel orphans in D-III.  I am wondering who might be shipped to the West Regional if we do not have 2 Pool C bids.

3)  Only 4 Pool A bids in the region.

ASC
NWC
SCAC, at least for a couple more years
SCIAC

[CrashDavisD3]

. . . . Not to make excuses but the West can be such a dog fight that sometimes better teams get left out because it gets so jammed up. It is not always the case that the best teams are in Wisconsin, that is just the way the system is set up.

108 Stitches -
You raise an excellent point!  Here are some facts that back that up:  In 2010, the West Region had 6 teams competing.  All 6 were ranked in the top 15 nationally!   In 2011, the West Region had another bracket of 6 teams.  5 of the 6 teams were ranked in the top 20 nationally!  It makes for a great West Region, but unfortunately, only one of these nationally-ranked teams have a chance to move on.  If the tournament was set up like the NCAA basketball tournament (and each regional site had a top seed), you would likely see more West Region teams in Appleton. 

I really don't believe the NCAA will allow teams in the West Region to compete in other Regionals like they did in 2008 again...

The reasons that the NCAA won't move West Region teams to other regionals are:

1) There are fewer no Pool B bids to award.

CSU-East Bay -- gone to D-2
Chapman  -- gone to SCIAC
UDallas  -- gone to SCAC.
Menlo -- gone to NAIA.

In 2008, both Chapman and CSU-East Bay were shipped to Abilene with the 4 Pool A bids.  Pool C Linfield would have made a 7th.  Ugh.  Pool B is almost gone.  Teams are finding conferences to join.

2)  The 6 team regional needs 6 teams from this part of the country that are travel orphans.  There are essentially no other travel orphans in D-III.  I am wondering who might be shipped to the West Regional if we do not have 2 Pool C bids.

3)  Only 4 Pool A bids in the region.

ASC
NWC
SCAC, at least for a couple more years
SCIAC

What happens when SCAC disappears from Pool A...

Then only 3 Pool A bids...they may have to ship into the West Region a Pool C team from another region..Maybe then the ASC gets a Pool and and Pool C by then

[El Hombre]

. . . . Not to make excuses but the West can be such a dog fight that sometimes better teams get left out because it gets so jammed up. It is not always the case that the best teams are in Wisconsin, that is just the way the system is set up.

108 Stitches -
You raise an excellent point!  Here are some facts that back that up:  In 2010, the West Region had 6 teams competing.  All 6 were ranked in the top 15 nationally!   In 2011, the West Region had another bracket of 6 teams.  5 of the 6 teams were ranked in the top 20 nationally!  It makes for a great West Region, but unfortunately, only one of these nationally-ranked teams have a chance to move on.  If the tournament was set up like the NCAA basketball tournament (and each regional site had a top seed), you would likely see more West Region teams in Appleton. 

I really don't believe the NCAA will allow teams in the West Region to compete in other Regionals like they did in 2008 again...

The reasons that the NCAA won't move West Region teams to other regionals are:

1) There are fewer no Pool B bids to award.

CSU-East Bay -- gone to D-2
Chapman  -- gone to SCIAC
UDallas  -- gone to SCAC.
Menlo -- gone to NAIA.

In 2008, both Chapman and CSU-East Bay were shipped to Abilene with the 4 Pool A bids.  Pool C Linfield would have made a 7th.  Ugh.  Pool B is almost gone.  Teams are finding conferences to join.

2)  The 6 team regional needs 6 teams from this part of the country that are travel orphans.  There are essentially no other travel orphans in D-III.  I am wondering who might be shipped to the West Regional if we do not have 2 Pool C bids.

3)  Only 4 Pool A bids in the region.

ASC
NWC
SCAC, at least for a couple more years
SCIAC

What happens when SCAC disappears from Pool A...

Then only 3 Pool A bids...they may have to ship into the West Region a Pool C team from another region..Maybe then the ASC gets a Pool and and Pool C by then

What is the situation with the SCAC (disappearing from Pool A)? 

Also, do you know the status of Birmingham Southern?  I believe they are in the SCAC, but what Region - West or South?  Are they eligible for the post season this year?

[108 Stitches]

Birmingham is eligible this year and is the highest ranked team from the SCAC and stands a pretty good chance of making the tournament based on their returning players.

The SCAC has already added Centenary, so they only need to add one more team to retain the conference and this appears likely to happen. U of Dallas is not eligible this year, but is a strong program. TU is in a transition year, but they have three freshmen that are impact players and their returnees looked stronger than expected so by tournament time they might give BS a run for their money. 

[CrashDavisD3]

Birmingham is eligible this year and is the highest ranked team from the SCAC and stands a pretty good chance of making the tournament based on their returning players.

The SCAC has already added Centenary, so they only need to add one more team to retain the conference and this appears likely to happen. U of Dallas is not eligible this year, but is a strong program. TU is in a transition year, but they have three freshmen that are impact players and their returnees looked stronger than expected so by tournament time they might give BS a run for their money. 

SCAC is a split region conference. Many teams are in the South Region and would not be in a West Regional and would not face a SCIAC Pool A or Pool C team.

SOUTH REGION
http://www.d3baseball.com/teams/region/south

WEST REGION
http://d3baseball.com/teams/region/west

[108 Stitches]

This is not necessarily true. They have a conference tournament where the two sides are seeded and the conference winner and possibly the second place team gets a bid. I believe they have play in the West. Would be nice to get them someplace else, but I don't think that is going to happen.

[BigPoppa]

This is not necessarily true. They have a conference tournament where the two sides are seeded and the conference winner and possibly the second place team gets a bid. I believe they have play in the West. Would be nice to get them someplace else, but I don't think that is going to happen.

Once the teams are selected for the NCAA regionals, the NCAA is free to place a team in any region it chooses (mostly factored by $$$ involved in moving a team elsewhere). Teams have been in and out of the Central region for years. Webster was sent to the South last year and Mississippi College HOSTED the Central region a few years ago...

[CrashDavisD3]

This is not necessarily true. They have a conference tournament where the two sides are seeded and the conference winner and possibly the second place team gets a bid. I believe they have play in the West. Would be nice to get them someplace else, but I don’t think that is going to happen.

Once the teams are selected for the NCAA regionals, the NCAA is free to place a team in any region it chooses (mostly factored by $$$ involved in moving a team elsewhere). Teams have been in and out of the Central region for years. Webster was sent to the South last year and Mississippi College HOSTED the Central region a few years ago...

I dont recall and have not seen a team from another region placed into the West Region. It could change but It has not happen anytime recently.

[108 Stitches]

Crash, I have not gone back through and looked at all of the previous tournaments, and I admit I am unknowledgeable in this area since I am new to DIII baseball, but what I have been told by others is that there are MORE tournament capable teams in the West than there are spots. The problem is not moving teams in, but getting Western teams out.

Ideally I think it would be great if they organized it like they do the D1, at least in seeding and giving regionals to the high seeds, but I don't think that is going to happen, so we will continue to see better teams home than those that are in Wisconsin.

[CrashDavisD3]

Crash, I have not gone back through and looked at all of the previous tournaments, and I admit I am unknowledgeable in this area since I am new to DIII baseball, but what I have been told by others is that there are MORE tournament capable teams in the West than there are spots. The problem is not moving teams in, but getting Western teams out.

Ideally I think it would be great if they organized it like they do the D1, at least in seeding and giving regionals to the high seeds, but I don't think that is going to happen, so we will continue to see better teams home than those that are in Wisconsin.

Due to cost D3 baseball will never follow the DI model for playoffs. D3 now picks regional sites before the season starts regardless if the team/site make the playoffs. Also you could have teams ranked in all in the top 10 all in the same regional.

It would be nice but DI gets the money and travel and D3 does not. So dont expect the playoffs to follow the DI Model. DIII can not even get 64 teams over 8 regions or Regionals and Super Regionals like DI baseball. It because the money from the March Madness DI basketball pays for the D3 sport playoffs and the NCAA tries to cut costs at the D3 level as much as possible.

[CrashDavisD3]

Top Returning Players to SCIAC in 2012 All Conference in 2011

2011 Stats
Kyle Hart,  Pitcher - Redlands
Cameron Lowe, Infielder - Redlands
Chase Tucker,  Infielder - Redlands
Jason Henning, Infielder – Redlands
Nick Boggan,  Infielder – Cal Lutheran
Trevor Koons, Infielder – Cal Lutheran
Byron Minnich, Pitcher – Cal Lutheran
John LaMoure, Pitcher – Cal Lutheran
Iggy Wagner, Outfielder – Cal Lutheran
Jason Moralez, Catcher - LaVerne
Jacob Ludvik,  Outfielder - LaVerne
Nathan Rollon, Pitcher - LaVerne
Andrew Vallejo, Outfielder - Whittier
Jason Rehhaut, Outfielder – Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
David Ulrich, Pitcher – Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
Brett Watanabe,Infielder – Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
Logan Allen, Infielder - Occidental
Erik Munzer, Outfielder – Pomona-Pitzer
Timothy Novom, Outfielder – Pomona Pitzer

Chapman
2011 Stats
Infield - Mark Saatzer, Tyler Surnbrock, Troy Newman
Pitchers – Brian Rauh, Christian Maietta,
Outfield – Charlie Piro, James Parr, Adam Velez

[CrashDavisD3]

3 players in SCIAC are 2012 Preseason All Americans

RHP Brian Rauh, Chapman
3B Nick Boggan, Cal Lutheran 
SS Chase Tucker, Redlands
http://d3baseball.com/awards/all-americans/d3baseball-preseason-allamericans-2012

[CrashDavisD3]

Panthers' ace earns Preseason All-America honors
Chapman news link