BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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CrashDavisD3

Going into Sunday March 11th
http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2012/standings

A surprise Occidental tied with La Verne at the top of the SCIAC with 9-3 conference records. Could this be the year of change with Redlands and Chapman both with losing records in 2012 so far.
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108 Stitches

I am not sure if it is global warming or what, but to see Caltech, Chapman, and Redlands at the bottom of the SCIAC is a bit sureal.

Also Sureal is the guy who just posted that Rowan should be ranked number 1......

By the end of the day today will give me a better idea who should be where in the top 10, but it still is early IMO.

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 11, 2012, 01:43:25 PM
I am not sure if it is global warming or what, but to see Caltech, Chapman, and Redlands at the bottom of the SCIAC is a bit sureal.

Also Sureal is the guy who just posted that Rowan should be ranked number 1......

By the end of the day today will give me a better idea who should be where in the top 10, but it still is early IMO.
It could be that 2012 thing with the Mayan Calendar and maybe hell did freeze over with the climate change thing.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

Gray Fox

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on March 11, 2012, 01:31:16 PM
Going into Sunday March 11th
http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2012/standings

A surprise Occidental tied with La Verne at the top of the SCIAC with 9-3 conference records. Could this be the year of change with Redlands and Chapman both with losing records in 2012 so far.
Three of the Oxy and ULV wins have been over Caltech.
Fierce When Roused

forheavendial4999

Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 11, 2012, 01:43:25 PM
I am not sure if it is global warming or what, but to see Caltech, Chapman, and Redlands at the bottom of the SCIAC is a bit sureal.

Also Sureal is the guy who just posted that Rowan should be ranked number 1......

By the end of the day today will give me a better idea who should be where in the top 10, but it still is early IMO.

You are so full of yourself as to dismiss my opinion on an undefeated team nearly 1/4 of the way through their season and call me a homer while CLEARLY not having any idea where home really is for me, yet you can't spell surreal. Awesome.

CrashDavisD3

Same results for Chapman(7-9) last night vs Ithaca losing 3-2  :-[ :-[ :-[ :o :(
- Great pitching. 2 earned runs, 11 Strikeouts
- Same defense 3 errors
- Same hitting/scoring 7 hits 7 LOB, 8 K's and only 2 runs scored.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.-----Albert Einstein
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

dp643

Chapman is about to be on the verge of needing to run the table in order to make the regional.

108 Stitches

Mayan Calendar, global warming, El Nino, La Nina, whatever you want to call it Chapman is done IMO. I like the team but, but they are in too deep a hole now.

El Hombre

Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 12, 2012, 11:17:52 AM
Mayan Calendar, global warming, El Nino, La Nina, whatever you want to call it Chapman is done IMO. I like the team but, but they are in too deep a hole now.

It is way too early to say Chapman is done.  As you know (or may not know), it is their record within the West Region that determines their chances to receive a Pool C bid.  And this year, they are playing many more games within the West Region than in the past.  In fact, they have 21 West Region games left.  Thus, it is way too early to say they are done!

Given their SOS, winning 13, 14 or 15 of their remaining 21 West Region games should secure a bid.  With their pitching staff, winning that number of games is more likely than not. 

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: El Hombre on March 12, 2012, 12:53:57 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 12, 2012, 11:17:52 AM
Mayan Calendar, global warming, El Nino, La Nina, whatever you want to call it Chapman is done IMO. I like the team but, but they are in too deep a hole now.

.  As you know (or may not know), it is their record within the West Region that determines their chances to receive a Pool C bid.  And this year, they are playing many more games within the West Region than in the past.  In fact, they have 21 West Region games left.  Thus, it is way too early to say they are done!

Given their SOS, winning 13, 14 or 15 of their remaining 21 West Region games should secure a bid.  With their pitching staff, winning that number of games is more likely than not. 
I agree it is way too early to count Chapman out and a long winning streak against West Region opponents will get them back in the race. They have the talent, players and coaching to turn things around and they have done it in the past

BUT

1) Not getting hits with runners in scoring position will not get wins
2) Defense giving up errors that impacts a win or lost must be stopped.
3) Starting pitching has been outstanding and relief pitching has done a good job recently and must continue.
4) Current In-Region Record is 6-6 .500 There will only be 6 teams in the West Regional if past history holds true.

Pool C bids are given out on a National not Regional basis.

So Chapman is competing with teams in all regions to get a Pool C bid not just teams in the West Region.

There is no guarantee how many Pool C bids the West Region may or may not get.
4 bids will be Pool A for the SCIAC, SCAC, ASC and NWC conference winners.

There are no guarantee that a West Region team will not be moved to another Regional or another region team could be moved to the West Regional

Chapman is not eligible for Pool A or Pool B bids in 2012.

Pool A will be given to the conference winner for the SCIAC which Chapman is not eligible for in 2012.

Pool B bids is for independents and conferences which do not get Pool A AQ bids

All this talk means nothing if Chapman dont start winning against in region opponents.
http://www.thepantheronline.com/sports/baseball-hits-rough-patch-1.2816651#.T15JvPXZVac
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/20120312r1nce2
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

infielddad

From my perspective, just as good hitting can be contagious, the opposite can also be true.
Chapman is 15 games into their season and only has 5 starters hitting over .275 and none hitting .300.
When we consider they also only have 4 pitchers who have been effective, the hitting and lack of runs leaves them vulnerable in close games, in the later innings.
Could Chapman turn this around?  Yes.
Even if they did, will it be good enough for a Pool C with the issues already discussed?
That is a very tough question.
But, to me, the tougher question the turnaround.  it would need to involve 2 or 3 offensive players who really catch lightning in a bottle to carry the team, or all 9 offensive players. Neither is easy and certainly not very predictable based on the season so far.
They also need a turn around in the  bullpen after the top 4.
The turnaround needs to be quick and pretty decisive.
Looking at their schedule, I would say they must sweep LaVerne this weekend and do so by showing they can put runs on the board.

108 Stitches

I was not paying attention to this when my son's team played Chapman, but come to think of it I don't recall thinking "oh boy so and so is coming up we better keep the ball away from him or we could be hurt". Not that one might exist, but I just don't remember thinking it. The top teams always seem to have a guy or two (or 3 or 4) that are really going to hurt you if you make a mistake and I don't recall this on the Chapman team. As infielddad pointed out - this guy (or guys) can get the others in the line up going.

Again it is never over until the fat lady sings, but she is warming up her voice for Chapman. I have a lot of respect for this team, and they can be quite good when they play to their potential, but they have a big hole to dig themselves out of right now and the pieces don't seem to be in place to get them out.

Jack Parkman

LaVerne is an interesting team this year.  They have played 19 games and only used 3 different starting pitchers.  They played 5 games in 4 days in the AZ tournament and only started 3 different guys.  They do not have the best pitching numbers but they are a darn good hitting team.

Oxy is a huge surprise.  They are right in the think of things in the SCIAC and have been lights out at the plate.  We will see if they can keep it going.

Someone mentioned LaVerne and Oxy have already played Cal Tech and Cal lutheran has not.  You assume (bad word to use) that they win all 3 against Cal Tech but they still have LaVerne and Oxy on the schedule.  This might be the tightest race the SCIAC has seen in a while.  It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: Jack Parkman on March 12, 2012, 02:29:58 PM
LaVerne is an interesting team this year.  They have played 19 games and only used 3 different starting pitchers.  They played 5 games in 4 days in the AZ tournament and only started 3 different guys.  They do not have the best pitching numbers but they are a darn good hitting team.

Oxy is a huge surprise.  They are right in the think of things in the SCIAC and have been lights out at the plate.  We will see if they can keep it going.

Someone mentioned LaVerne and Oxy have already played Cal Tech and Cal lutheran has not.  You assume (bad word to use) that they win all 3 against Cal Tech but they still have LaVerne and Oxy on the schedule.  This might be the tightest race the SCIAC has seen in a while.  It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
SCIAC race could go down to the last weekend with 4 teams right now within 2 games of each other. Who ever has the best pitching/defense wins the title IMO. The last conference games are being played on April 28th

Right now the best team pitching in SCIAC is Cal Lu. La Verne has the best hitting team. Best fielding team is Occidental.

Cal Lu is near the bottom in hitting, with La Verne near the bottom in Fielding and Pitching.

I give the edge to Cal Lu at this time. Since they are near the top in Fielding percentage and are on the top for Team Pitching

Occidental not far behind leading in Fielding percentage and near the top in hitting and has had better pitching than La Verne

My predictions for the top 3 are:

Cal Lu - Pool A bid
Occidental - Pool C bid
La Verne


I never win in Vegas so dont be take my predictions too seriously

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/stats/lgsumm.htm

http://www.thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2011-12/standings
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

CrashDavisD3

This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html