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108 Stitches

P-P takes 2/3

CLU sweeps, but Oxy may sneak out a close game for one W.

If I was Oxy I might reverse pitch my starters and have my #1 go Sunday...but coaches don't think like that very often. We will find out this weekend. 1) How far the Chapman team has developed 2) Is Oxy for real.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 15, 2013, 09:34:00 AM
P-P takes 2/3

CLU sweeps, but Oxy may sneak out a close game for one W.

If I was Oxy I might reverse pitch my starters and have my #1 go Sunday...but coaches don't think like that very often. We will find out this weekend. 1) How far the Chapman team has developed 2) Is Oxy for real.
In an tight conference race, where lots of the top teams are about equal, and the critical factor is who wins the most 3-game series, I believe that you must employ that strategy so you don't lose a game that you cannot afford.

In some cases, that puts all of the pressure on game #3 in the series.

I believe that the ASC, the SCIAC and the NWC have that balance that forces that question to be addressed.

OxyBob

Quote from: 108 Stitches on March 15, 2013, 09:34:00 AM
We will find out this weekend ...  2) Is Oxy for real.

Eyewitness report from Thousand Oaks:

Cal Lutheran 5, Oxy 3

Sloppy play and missed opportunities cost Oxy.

Oxy scored a run in the first but left the bases loaded.

In the bottom of the first CLU's Ronnie Burton led off with a liner to center which was botched by Scott Hong and was scored as a courtesy triple. The next batter Nicho DellaValle doubled and the game was tied 1-1.

In the second, after a wild pitch Oxy had 2nd and 3rd with two out but Jonathan Brooks K'd looking.

In the bottom of the third Kevin Leonard hit a liner to right which Alec Strain gloved but dropped, and that went for an RBI single. CLU led 3-1.

Oxy tied it in the sixth on a 2-run single by A.J. Libunao.

The bottom of the eighth was the killer for Oxy. Nick DeLorenzo singled and Mike Vinyard ran for him. John Leal walked. After a foul out, on a wild pitch Oxy got Leal in a rundown between 1st and 2nd but ran him towards 2nd instead of 1st. Vinyard meantime rounded third and Oxy got him in a rundown but failed to tag him, so both runners were safe. Instead of 2 outs and a runner at 2nd, CLU had runners at 2nd and 3rd. Garrett Smith cashed them in with a double. Oxy went out in order in the ninth.

Doubleheader at Oxy tomorrow. Maybe the Tigers will play better at home.

OxyBob


108 Stitches

Thanks for the update OxyBob. Good luck tomorrow. I just checked the SCIAC website.

March 15

Pomona-Pitzer   8 Chapman    2    Final

Redlands   11 Whittier    5    Final

Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    5   La Verne    2    BOT 8

Jack Parkman

Did the bubble burst on Oxy's season?  Cal Lu swept the 3 games and after a close game on Friday, they dominated the double header.  Cal Lu's pitching has been very average but only gave up 6 runs in 3 games.  I think Oxy put itself in a pretty bad position with La Verne and Pomona still on their schedule and I don't see them taking either series.  Whittier is a must sweep for them too. 
Cal Lu put themselves in a pretty good position and I think the only "real" test left for them in the SCIAC is La Verne.  Still plenty of baseball left to be played and the new conference tournament is a great thing for the league.

108 Stitches

Top 4 for the SCIAC seem to be shaping up with CLU,PP, LaVern and Chapman starting to separate themselves. Oxy, Redlands and Whittier are in the mix for the four spot with LaVern and Chapman on the bubble.

Did not look at the upcoming match ups but I am sure there are a couple of series that will be critical.

Oxy is coming back to earth.

CrashDavisD3

BIG WEEKEND FOR SCIAC....Major implications for TOP 4 go to SCIAC PLAYOFFS  ;D

Mar. 29 
Chapman   Redlands   3:00 PM   
Whittier   Occidental   3:00 PM   
La Verne   Pomona-Pitzer   3:00 PM     
   
Mar. 30 
Occidental   Whittier   11:00 AM     
Redlands   Chapman   11:00 AM     
Pomona-Pitzer   La Verne   11:00 AM     
Occidental   Whittier   2:00 PM     
Pomona-Pitzer   La Verne   2:30 PM   
Redlands   Chapman   2:30 PM   
   

This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

goodolsciac

3-0 La Verne after 1.  Rosenbaum leaves game with apparent elbow injury.

CrashDavisD3

TOP 4 SCIAC
http://www.d3baseball.com/conf/SCIAC/2013/standing

1) Cal Lu
2) Pomona Pitzer
3) Redlands
4) TIED La Verne ...Occidental

Not Out but dying quickly
6) Whittier
7) Chapman

Not this year
8) Claremont

Rocket Scientists/
8) Cal Tech
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

OxyBob

Happy Opening Day!

A man was walking along the beach when he came upon an empty corked bottle. He picked it up and pulled out the cork, and suddenly in a cloud of mist a genie appeared. "Oh, thank you for freeing me, most gracious master," exclaimed the genie. "As a token of my great appreciation, I will grant you one wish."

The man pulled a folded-up world map from his back pocket and handed it to the genie. "My wish is for peace in the Middle East."

The genie handed the map back and scoffed, "That's impossible! Not even I with my genie powers can do that! I will therefore grant you another wish."

The man thought for a moment and said, "OK, I wish to see the Chicago Cubs win the World Series."

The genie replied, "Let me see that map again."

OxyBob

D O.C.


OshDude

Quote from: OxyBob on April 01, 2013, 11:16:20 AM
Happy Opening Day!

A man was walking along the beach when he came upon an empty corked bottle. He picked it up and pulled out the cork, and suddenly in a cloud of mist a genie appeared. "Oh, thank you for freeing me, most gracious master," exclaimed the genie. "As a token of my great appreciation, I will grant you one wish."

The man pulled a folded-up world map from his back pocket and handed it to the genie. "My wish is for peace in the Middle East."

The genie handed the map back and scoffed, "That's impossible! Not even I with my genie powers can do that! I will therefore grant you another wish."

The man thought for a moment and said, "OK, I wish to see the Chicago Cubs win the World Series."

The genie replied, "Let me see that map again."

OxyBob
It's looking more like a Cubs/Astros World Series every day. They've been on a collision course since opening day.

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 01, 2013, 05:01:42 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on April 01, 2013, 11:16:20 AM
Happy Opening Day!

A man was walking along the beach when he came upon an empty corked bottle. He picked it up and pulled out the cork, and suddenly in a cloud of mist a genie appeared. "Oh, thank you for freeing me, most gracious master," exclaimed the genie. "As a token of my great appreciation, I will grant you one wish."

The man pulled a folded-up world map from his back pocket and handed it to the genie. "My wish is for peace in the Middle East."

The genie handed the map back and scoffed, "That's impossible! Not even I with my genie powers can do that! I will therefore grant you another wish."

The man thought for a moment and said, "OK, I wish to see the Chicago Cubs win the World Series."

The genie replied, "Let me see that map again."

OxyBob
It's looking more like a Cubs/Astros World Series every day. They've been on a collision course since opening day.
Only if the rest of the teams replace their rosters 100% with their Triple A team. Yep a true APRIL FOOL's joke  :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

Colorado

Just waiting for the other shoe to drop: Over the years, I'd occasionally see or hear about clashes between parent and coaches over the playing time of their son. In high school, there were a couple of embarassing moments taking place during games where conflicts boiled over into shouting matches.   By the time the child gets to college, I half expected  those days to have passed. 'Different environment' is what I thought. Players of a different skill level get tested and are sorted out. Its not a fair process and some good ones never get a chance.  Many times it just depends on a coach's bias or what bests fits his style but the bottom line is that they will usually make a call based on what they think they need to win. I suspect  that most of them will take an interest in his players. Some are better at it than others.   John Wooden is often held up as an example of that sort of good coach but every coach, even someone like Wooden, has to be tough on his players and only the style or personality in doing so will differ. Some coaches, especially the "tough-love" guys, are sometimes thought of as tyrants (like Bobby Knight or Woody Hayes) and are eventually run out of town when they finally "crossed the line".  For me, as long as the line is not crossed, I have no problem with a "tough, no nonsense" coach. Baseball is a game of failure. If you expect to succeed, you better learn a little about toughness and how to work through it. Some of that learning hopefully translates into real life after graduation. When my son was 2 weeks into his freshman year, he was lambasted by his college coach about being too soft. Reflective by nature, my son said that over the years, he's come to understand what his coach was doing and while he still doesn't like it, he notes that his mental toughness now came directly in response to his coach's criticism. So what we have in the moment is a parent complaining about how a coach is treating his freshman son  clashing with the style of a tough no-nonsense coach.  Who wins? In this age and time of correctness, I am guessing that the coach loses.   I don't know if this post fits here (a slight connection with SCIAC) but my apologies as I did not know how to start a new thread.

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: Colorado on April 02, 2013, 02:17:52 PM
Just waiting for the other shoe to drop: Over the years, I'd occasionally see or hear about clashes between parent and coaches over the playing time of their son. In high school, there were a couple of embarassing moments taking place during games where conflicts boiled over into shouting matches.   By the time the child gets to college, I half expected  those days to have passed. 'Different environment' is what I thought. Players of a different skill level get tested and are sorted out. Its not a fair process and some good ones never get a chance.  Many times it just depends on a coach's bias or what bests fits his style but the bottom line is that they will usually make a call based on what they think they need to win. I suspect  that most of them will take an interest in his players. Some are better at it than others.   John Wooden is often held up as an example of that sort of good coach but every coach, even someone like Wooden, has to be tough on his players and only the style or personality in doing so will differ. Some coaches, especially the "tough-love" guys, are sometimes thought of as tyrants (like Bobby Knight or Woody Hayes) and are eventually run out of town when they finally "crossed the line".  For me, as long as the line is not crossed, I have no problem with a "tough, no nonsense" coach. Baseball is a game of failure. If you expect to succeed, you better learn a little about toughness and how to work through it. Some of that learning hopefully translates into real life after graduation. When my son was 2 weeks into his freshman year, he was lambasted by his college coach about being too soft. Reflective by nature, my son said that over the years, he's come to understand what his coach was doing and while he still doesn't like it, he notes that his mental toughness now came directly in response to his coach's criticism. So what we have in the moment is a parent complaining about how a coach is treating his freshman son  clashing with the style of a tough no-nonsense coach.  Who wins? In this age and time of correctness, I am guessing that the coach loses.   I don't know if this post fits here (a slight connection with SCIAC) but my apologies as I did not know how to start a new thread.

IMO This place is not  the appropriate place to discuss something that impacts peoples lives. College players are young men that need to deal with any issues that come up by themselves without the involvement of others. Problems always occur when outsiders get involved.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html