BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Spence]

I guess the code of conduct thing could be an issue depending on exactly what we're talking about. I don't know if profanity in and of itself rises to the level of verbal abuse, though it certainly could be part of an abusive act.

But coaches should be held to the same standard of conduct that students are. There's plenty of room for "motivational tools" that stop short of abuse.

I hope for a fair investigation and that justice is done, whatever result that is. I don't think there is a shortage of good coaches that want to lead Chapman baseball.

Chapman needs to reinstate this coach he has over 500+ supporters on FB and have written, called the Adminstration supporting what a positive difference he has made on so many players lives for so many years.

If that's what justice is in this case, then I'm all for it. I wish all the Chapman fans here the best in this trying time and just hope that whatever happens is what should have happened.

[CrashDavisD3]

........There would be very few college baseball teams if swearing was not allowed. 

It was not long ago there was an article in the Orange County Register talking about how Terechuck was the best baseball coach in SoCal INCLUDING all of the successful D1 programs.....

Hopefully they get this done quickly and move on.

This has gone on for over 2 weeks. Unreal....This has put the team, coach, coaches, staff and their families thru H****.  Oops I could be ban from this board....

[Ron Boerger]

I wonder how popular this Newman kid is with his former teammates?   Baseball is a colorful sport, not saying swearing should be as prevalent as it may be but good grief.

If you read the comments on the article in the student paper, he (or someone claiming to be him) is on record as saying that he was pretty heinously misquoted.

BTW, I checked the stats, he didn't play in '09, appeared in 14 games his senior year, starting 2 of those, batted .350ish. 

[wildcat11]

Chapman Facebook support "Coach T" page:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/119740221553001/119744018219288/?notif_t=group_activity

[OshDude]

To lighten the mood a bit on Chapman, take a gander at former Panther All-America pitcher Brian Rauh's 2013 MiLB mugshot. Look him up if you're rounding up a posse.

[108 Stitches]

To lighten the mood a bit on Chapman, take a gander at former Panther All-America pitcher Brian Rauh's 2013 MiLB mugshot. Look him up if you're rounding up a posse.

LOL......future Rollie Fingers......not

Now THAT is something to cuss about.

[Ralph Turner]

........There would be very few college baseball teams if swearing was not allowed. 

It was not long ago there was an article in the Orange County Register talking about how Terechuck was the best baseball coach in SoCal INCLUDING all of the successful D1 programs.....

Hopefully they get this done quickly and move on.

This has gone on for over 2 weeks. Unreal....This has put the team, coach, coaches, staff and their families thru H****.  Oops I could be ban from this board....

Moderator comment:

H****.  In this context, I assume that is the Greek mythological location of the underworld.

That is appropriate on a D-III board.   

[OxyBob]

Cubs fans choose Lee Elia's tirade.

X-rated version. Beware! Bad language ahead!
Lee Elia tirade

Rivals Tom Lasorda going off on Dick Williams and Kurt Bevacqua. X-rated version. Beware! More bad language ahead!
Tom Lasorda tirade

As for the Chapman players who ratted out their coach for cussing, I found a picture of them in their uniforms:



OxyBob

[Colorado]

I wonder how popular this Newman kid is with his former teammates?   Baseball is a colorful sport, not saying swearing should be as prevalent as it may be but good grief.

If you read the comments on the article in the student paper, he (or someone claiming to be him) is on record as saying that he was pretty heinously misquoted.

BTW, I checked the stats, he didn't play in '09, appeared in 14 games his senior year, starting 2 of those, batted .350ish.

Newman is not a bad kid. He later explained that for most of his interview, he offered a predominantly positive view of T but the reporter only used the couple quotes about getting yelled at.  He might have said 15 or 16 things about T with most of it being "good" but none of those fit the story line. Newman only played his freshman year (2010) and is a senior this year. He quit the team just as the 2011 team was starting -- opting to join a frat (frat life is pretty big at Chapman). Because of his bat, odds were good that he was going to get a chance to play but he just made a choice that later he expressed some regret doing so. Can't speak for the others but my son still talks to Newman. The triggering incident came about in a game that chapman was losing. A small group of freshmen players burst out laughing for a brief moment but T was  irritated. After the game, he chewed out the team about it. One of the players told his dad and a complaint was filed. I hope T stays not because he has a great record or even because, as my son says, he makes the players accountable or forces them to grow up a little but because to be fired for these reasons would be idiotic. There is a point where mom and dad have to let the boy be on his own. Add the fact that you're dealing with a man's livelihood and how he supports his family and it becomes mind boggling. This is now the 2d incident in 6 weeks in which a freshman parent complained and triggered an investigation ( the earlier one had nothing to do with T) but it was along the  same lines  of the parent being upset about her son getting a haircut during rookie night. It's not an excuse but seeing how Chapman has collapsed in that time frame, I imagine the uncertainty and anxiety of player interviews were a distraction.

[108 Stitches]

Thanks Colorado. Parents complaining about college baseball coaches swearing....unbelieveable. Even more unbelievable how long this has gone on and how Chapman is handling it.

[Just_Some_Guy]

Thanks Colorado. Parents complaining about college baseball coaches swearing....unbelieveable. Even more unbelievable how long this has gone on and how Chapman is handling it.

These are the same types of parents that do their kid's homework all the way through high school, hire expensive tutors, drive their kid to interviews and sit in the lobby.

It's insanity. There was a time when teachers and coaches got the benefit of the doubt, not junior.

I think Mike Matheny's manifesto on the subject was excellent:
http://missouriwarriorsbaseball.com/files/2011/02/Matheny-Manifesto-v2.pdf

JSG

[Jack Parkman]

Even more unbelievable how long this has gone on and how Chapman is handling it.

I agree 100%.What in the world is taking so long?  This has been going on for over 2 weeks and it makes me wonder if Chapman's "investigation" includes digging deeper into this and if more former players came forward.  I am aware of how much support there is for Coach T but there is always going to be a case of someone that wants to get in on the action.  This is unfair to all involved at the longer it goes on the more serious it seems, imho.

[Whatagame]

Cubs fans choose Lee Elia's tirade.

X-rated version. Beware! Bad language ahead!
Lee Elia tirade

Rivals Tom Lasorda going off on Dick Williams and Kurt Bevacqua. X-rated version. Beware! More bad language ahead!
Tom Lasorda tirade

As for the Chapman players who ratted out their coach for cussing, I found a picture of them in their uniforms:



OxyBob

Ahh, Tommy Lasorda was a beauty!  The "Bevacqua" tirade makes me yearn for the old Jim Healy Show, the greatest sports radio show ever.  Some other Tommy classics:

His opinion of Dave Kingman's performance....
His meltdown in front of the media, and in particular TJ Simers, regarding the Dodger's poor plate discipline..."Garvey???!!!"
And my favorite I think, Tommy mic'd-up, pulling Doug Rau from Game 4 of the '77 World Series.

Luckily, all those great clips can still be found on the Jim  Healy tribute website.

[Gray Fox]

Cubs fans choose Lee Elia's tirade.

X-rated version. Beware! Bad language ahead!
Lee Elia tirade

Rivals Tom Lasorda going off on Dick Williams and Kurt Bevacqua. X-rated version. Beware! More bad language ahead!
Tom Lasorda tirade

As for the Chapman players who ratted out their coach for cussing, I found a picture of them in their uniforms:



OxyBob

Ahh, Tommy Lasorda was a beauty!  The "Bevacqua" tirade makes me yearn for the old Jim Healy Show, the greatest sports radio show ever.  Some other Tommy classics:

His opinion of Dave Kingman's performance....
His meltdown in front of the media, and in particular TJ Simers, regarding the Dodger's poor plate discipline..."Garvey???!!!"
And my favorite I think, Tommy mic'd-up, pulling Doug Rau from Game 4 of the '77 World Series.

Luckily, all those great clips can still be found on the Jim  Healy tribute website.

Which is here:  http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/healy.swf

[wildcat11]

Linfield took game one yesterday from P-P, 6-2.  The 'Cats currently have a 14-1 lead in the 7th in the 1st of a doubleheader today.