BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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CrashDavisD3

Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 20, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 20, 2014, 03:51:55 PM


Meanwhile, ULV, Redlands, and Oxy all play two on Saturday, one Sunday, and one Tuesday. They'll be left in a tough spot as their aces will only have two days rest for the final game. Case in point, Redlands will likely have to throw a fourth starter against PP's ace Miles on 4/29.
Rather the exception. The other two teams play Cal Tech. Their 3 starters can pitch the final game.
I would keep Cal Tech out of the round robin portion of the schedule. They really need to go to club baseball and drop DIII competition or do something to get competitive. Cal Tech has no chance of winning any games in the next week, so not real sure what the purpose to have them play these games. The average score for a Cal Tech game this year was 13-3. Most high school teams would beat Cal Tech. I have nothing against them playing baseball just not at the DIII level. They should try club baseball at the college level. http://www.clubbaseball.org/
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

Teddy_Ballgame

Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 20, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 20, 2014, 03:51:55 PM
Meanwhile, ULV, Redlands, and Oxy all play two on Saturday, one Sunday, and one Tuesday. They'll be left in a tough spot as their aces will only have two days rest for the final game. Case in point, Redlands will likely have to throw a fourth starter against PP's ace Miles on 4/29.
Rather the exception. The other two teams play Cal Tech. Their 3 starters can pitch the final game.

Good catch, I forgot about taking into account the Cal Tech games. That puts Redlands in the toughest spot, especially because they don't hold any tiebreakers- though a win over PP would result in a series split. It still means that Oxy will likely throw its #3/everyone else available against CMS's #1 in their Tuesday game, so that won't be a gimme.

As a reminder in the event of a two, three, or four way tie for the final tournament spot:
Oxy (12-12) holds tiebreaker over Redlands and La Verne
La Verne (12-12) holds tiebreaker over Redlands and PP
PP (11-13) holds tiebreaker over Redlands and Oxy
Redlands (12-12) holds the tiebreaker over... nobody relevant.

As the four seed, and with the various tiebreaker scenarios, Oxy is the only team that truly controls their own destiny. However, because all four teams have two games against CLU/CU/Whittier it's unlikely that anybody goes 4-0 and it could get really interesting. 

At the top, all three teams have locked themselves into the tournament, and it's almost certainly going to be CLU and CU fighting for the one seed, with Whittier  at three. Nevertheless:
CLU (18-6) holds tiebreaker over Chapman
Chapman (18-6) over Whittier
Whittier (16-8) over CLU

Whatagame

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 20, 2014, 11:57:19 PM
Quote from: Richard Hamstocks on April 20, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 20, 2014, 03:51:55 PM


Meanwhile, ULV, Redlands, and Oxy all play two on Saturday, one Sunday, and one Tuesday. They'll be left in a tough spot as their aces will only have two days rest for the final game. Case in point, Redlands will likely have to throw a fourth starter against PP's ace Miles on 4/29.
Rather the exception. The other two teams play Cal Tech. Their 3 starters can pitch the final game.
I would keep Cal Tech out of the round robin portion of the schedule. They really need to go to club baseball and drop DIII competition or do something to get competitive. Cal Tech has no chance of winning any games in the next week, so not real sure what the purpose to have them play these games. The average score for a Cal Tech game this year was 13-3. Most high school teams would beat Cal Tech. I have nothing against them playing baseball just not at the DIII level. They should try club baseball at the college level. http://www.clubbaseball.org/

I'm sorry, I have to do this......  Nice loss (errrrr win) for Chapman, as they grind out a 7 - 5 win today over CIT.  Chapman had to dig deep into their pen in the 9th, as CIT had the tying runs on 2nd and 3rd.  I had to watch Live Stats, forvige me, I was really hoping for a CIT game tying base hit...

SoCalSoxFan

CLU 15-3 over CMS in 7 inning mercy.  Petersen 1hit shutout over 5 then bullpen brought in for last two innings.

CMS had played CLU tighter earlier in year, taking one of three games, but not today.

Teddy_Ballgame

PP loses to WC 8-6.
It was tied 5-5 going into the 9th, but Whittier hit two solo home runs (one from Barzilli) and then added another run to boot. A solo shot from Rosenbaum in the bottom half wasn't enough, and the Sagehens now find themselves in a big hole trying to get that 4 seed.

4. Oxy 12-12
5. ULV 12-12
6. UR 12-12
7. PP 11-14

PP will have to beat La Verne, Redlands, and Chapman and hope that everyone else goes 2-2 or worse, just to have a shot.

As pointed out above, Chapman scraped a win out against CIT. CLU closed the door on a 10 run limit game against CMS, so all is the same at the top:

1. CLU 19-6
2. CU 19-6
3. WC 17-8

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 23, 2014, 08:50:58 PM
PP loses to WC 8-6.
It was tied 5-5 going into the 9th, but Whittier hit two solo home runs (one from Barzilli) and then added another run to boot. A solo shot from Rosenbaum in the bottom half wasn't enough, and the Sagehens now find themselves in a big hole trying to get that 4 seed.

4. Oxy 12-12
5. ULV 12-12
6. UR 12-12
7. PP 11-14

PP will have to beat La Verne, Redlands, and Chapman and hope that everyone else goes 2-2 or worse, just to have a shot.

As pointed out above, Chapman scraped a win out against CIT. CLU closed the door on a 10 run limit game against CMS, so all is the same at the top:

1. CLU 19-6
2. CU 19-6
3. WC 17-8
I expect CU and CLU to meet in the SCIAC conference tournament championship game. Upsets can and will happen. Chapman almost got embarrassed today
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

Ralph Turner

A shout-out to Cal Tech pitcher Daniel Chou who had a strong 8-inning outing after a rocky 1st.  116 pitches and 72 strikes.) Chou even went 2 for 4 with a stolen base and scored 2 runs!

Chapman 7 Cal Tech 5.

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2014/boxscores/20140423_9nv5.xml

Gray Fox

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2014, 11:48:21 PM
A shout-out to Cal Tech pitcher Daniel Chou who had a strong 8-inning outing after a rocky 1st.  116 pitches and 72 strikes.) Chou even went 2 for 4 with a stolen base and scored 2 runs!

Chapman 7 Cal Tech 5.

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2014/boxscores/20140423_9nv5.xml
They BELONG. :)
They used to be bad in hoops, but now are not an easy win.
They just need more pitching.  Most baseball teams can say the same thing.
Fierce When Roused

CrashDavisD3

This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

CrashDavisD3

This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

Teddy_Ballgame

Quote from: Gray Fox on April 24, 2014, 12:15:24 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2014, 11:48:21 PM
A shout-out to Cal Tech pitcher Daniel Chou who had a strong 8-inning outing after a rocky 1st.  116 pitches and 72 strikes.) Chou even went 2 for 4 with a stolen base and scored 2 runs!

Chapman 7 Cal Tech 5.

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2014/boxscores/20140423_9nv5.xml
They BELONG. :)
They used to be bad in hoops, but now are not an easy win.
They just need more pitching.  Most baseball teams can say the same thing.

I gotta disagree. It's great that Cal Tech put up a good game against Chapman. I really hope they continue to improve, and maybe they can steal a game from someone in the next few years.

But let's be honest, even a team that can win 1 of 28 conference games is still way overmatched and doesn't belong in the same division as everyone else. Especially considering that teams treat them like a practice game. And they can't even get the guys together to make up a conference game that gets postponed for rain, or play a 40 game game schedule.

Every year a DIII team or two will steal a game from a DI team. Does that mean they should be in the same league as the DI team? I don't think so (I know there are other factors there, but still). I think it's great that Cal Tech makes their students play sports, I'm sure its a welcome distraction from incredibly complex, stressful studies. And I think they should continue doing so, just in another league/division/conference where they can actually compete and have a chance to experience winning and true competition. Assuming that the club option is viable, that makes way more sense than continuing to trot them out in these various sports to have their asses kicked every game. A win every few years (which, at this point, is still wishful thinking) isn't enough.

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 24, 2014, 02:10:46 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on April 24, 2014, 12:15:24 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 23, 2014, 11:48:21 PM
A shout-out to Cal Tech pitcher Daniel Chou who had a strong 8-inning outing after a rocky 1st.  116 pitches and 72 strikes.) Chou even went 2 for 4 with a stolen base and scored 2 runs!

Chapman 7 Cal Tech 5.

http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2014/boxscores/20140423_9nv5.xml
They BELONG. :)
They used to be bad in hoops, but now are not an easy win.
They just need more pitching.  Most baseball teams can say the same thing.

I gotta disagree. It's great that Cal Tech put up a good game against Chapman. I really hope they continue to improve, and maybe they can steal a game from someone in the next few years.

But let's be honest, even a team that can win 1 of 28 conference games is still way overmatched and doesn't belong in the same division as everyone else. Especially considering that teams treat them like a practice game. And they can't even get the guys together to make up a conference game that gets postponed for rain, or play a 40 game game schedule.

Every year a DIII team or two will steal a game from a DI team. Does that mean they should be in the same league as the DI team? I don't think so (I know there are other factors there, but still). I think it's great that Cal Tech makes their students play sports, I'm sure its a welcome distraction from incredibly complex, stressful studies. And I think they should continue doing so, just in another league/division/conference where they can actually compete and have a chance to experience winning and true competition. Assuming that the club option is viable, that makes way more sense than continuing to trot them out in these various sports to have their asses kicked every game. A win every few years (which, at this point, is still wishful thinking) isn't enough.
I agree
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

Teddy_Ballgame

First regional rankings were published today, with Cal Lu and Chapman in the 3-4 spots:
http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2014/04/regional-rankings-week-one

1. Linfield                26-2
2. Trinity                 30-7
3. Cal Lu                 27-8
4. Chapman            23-9
5. Concordia Tx       23-10
6. George Fox          22-10

I don't know much about the other conferences this year, but the rankings don't seem all that suprising. The biggest gripe you might be able to make is having the two SCIAC schools up there when the Texas teams and NWC just dominated the SCIAC at the beginning of the year.

Jack Parkman

Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on April 24, 2014, 05:43:48 PM
First regional rankings were published today, with Cal Lu and Chapman in the 3-4 spots:
http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2014/04/regional-rankings-week-one

1. Linfield                26-2
2. Trinity                 30-7
3. Cal Lu                 27-8
4. Chapman            23-9
5. Concordia Tx       23-10
6. George Fox          22-10

I don't know much about the other conferences this year, but the rankings don't seem all that suprising. The biggest gripe you might be able to make is having the two SCIAC schools up there when the Texas teams and NWC just dominated the SCIAC at the beginning of the year.

It's true that the NWC did pretty well against the SCIAC at the start of the year but I think you have to look at which teams they were- Redlands, Whittier, La Verne. Fox swept Oxy, Fox beat Pomona, Pomona beat PLU and got swept by Linfid.  Cal Lu has only played PLU (beat them) and I am not sure if Chapman has played a NWC school this year. Chapman struggled on their trip to TX but I can assure you that Chapman is a much better team now.

The SCIAC's best can compete with the NWC's beat and the best in TX and I think they showed that last year in the regional.

ChapFan

What I like about this Chapman team is that there are 6 players left from the 2011 World Series team. They are hungry for that one last chance to get back to Appleton. The pitching is deep enough for the run.