BB: SCIAC: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Purple Heys]

I would agree with you. It will be interesting to see what the Regional rankings look like when they come out. As PLU showed, the most important thing is to get hot at the right time. I don't really like this whole round robin thing they do in the SCIAC as teams like CalTech should not be playing in it and are pretty much meaningless for a team like Oxy, actually it hurts them as their SOS drops and many times teams play down to their competition.

Presuming Oxy gets through the 4 game RR unscathed and they finish at least 2nd in the tourney, I have a hard time thinking they won't be in.  If Oxy does a 2 and a BBQ in the SCIAC tourney, it could be trouble for them.   A 2nd place Oxy tourney finish hurts Whitworth.

Otherwise I think this most hurts the second place SCIAC tourney team unless it's Oxy.

[Sluggerdad]

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The RR fills in the full 28 Game schedule in SCIAC regular season since Cal Tech made it a 9 team league...previous was 4x7 for 28 games when it was an 8 team league.

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You mean since CHAPMAN made it a 9 team league.

[Jack Parkman]

I would agree with you. It will be interesting to see what the Regional rankings look like when they come out. As PLU showed, the most important thing is to get hot at the right time. I don't really like this whole round robin thing they do in the SCIAC as teams like CalTech should not be playing in it and are pretty much meaningless for a team like Oxy, actually it hurts them as their SOS drops and many times teams play down to their competition.

Presuming Oxy gets through the 4 game RR unscathed and they finish at least 2nd in the tourney, I have a hard time thinking they won't be in.  If Oxy does a 2 and a BBQ in the SCIAC tourney, it could be trouble for them.   A 2nd place Oxy tourney finish hurts Whitworth.

Otherwise I think this most hurts the second place SCIAC tourney team unless it's Oxy.

Agreed.  It will be interesting to see what the Regional Rankings show when they come out in a few days.  I would assume Oxy has jumped Whitworth and Oxy has a guaranteed 6 games left, while Whitworth has 3.  I guess it's just a waiting game at this point but I am sure the guys up in Spokane are pulling for teams to beat Oxy or for Oxy to get the Auto-bid.

[Jack Parkman]

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The RR fills in the full 28 Game schedule in SCIAC regular season since Cal Tech made it a 9 team league...previous was 4x7 for 28 games when it was an 8 team league.

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Chapman did make the 9th team and before they entered it was a 24 game SCIAC schedule with a lot more East Coast teams coming to CA to play games.  It's too bad a lot of that ended but I like seeing the teams go to TX and AZ to play games.

You mean since CHAPMAN made it a 9 team league.

[Purple Heys]

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The RR fills in the full 28 Game schedule in SCIAC regular season since Cal Tech made it a 9 team league...previous was 4x7 for 28 games when it was an 8 team league.

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You mean since CHAPMAN made it a 9 team league.

Yes thank you for the correction.

[Purple Heys]

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The RR fills in the full 28 Game schedule in SCIAC regular season since Cal Tech made it a 9 team league...previous was 4x7 for 28 games when it was an 8 team league.

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You mean since CHAPMAN made it a 9 team league.

Yes thank you for the correction.

Cal Tech, Chapman...whatever it takes.   

[Jim Dixon]

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The RR fills in the full 28 Game schedule in SCIAC regular season since Cal Tech made it a 9 team league...previous was 4x7 for 28 games when it was an 8 team league.

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You mean since CHAPMAN made it a 9 team league.

Yes thank you for the correction.

Cal Tech, Chapman...whatever it took.   

I get Chapman and Caltech mixed up too

[Purple Heys]

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The RR fills in the full 28 Game schedule in SCIAC regular season since Cal Tech made it a 9 team league...previous was 4x7 for 28 games when it was an 8 team league.

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You mean since CHAPMAN made it a 9 team league.

Yes thank you for the correction.

Cal Tech, Chapman...whatever it takes.   

I get Chapman and Caltech mixed up too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6si8Xp8P-M

[Purple Heys]

Conceptually, neither Redlands nor Chapman need to compete for wins in the RR...both need to win the SCIAC tourney championship to gain the NCAA auto playoff berth.  Both can conceivably rest their pitching and starters during the RR to maximize their availability for the SCIAC playoff.

Oxy and Cal Lu have no such luxury as both are hopeful to gain an at large berth if they fail to win the playoff tourney...but losing even one RR game diminishes their at large chances.

Interesting...

[Jack Parkman]

Conceptually, neither Redlands nor Chapman need to compete for wins in the RR...both need to win the SCIAC tourney championship to gain the NCAA auto playoff berth.  Both can conceivably rest their pitching and starters during the RR to maximize their availability for the SCIAC playoff.

Oxy and Cal Lu have no such luxury as both are hopeful to gain an at large berth if they fail to win the playoff tourney...but losing even one RR game diminishes their at large chances.

Interesting...

I would figure everyone will go out and play like they normally would.  No real sense in giving guys rest at this point of the season.  I could see more pitchers being used and guys not going 7-8 innings.

[NWBaseballFan10]

I would agree with you. It will be interesting to see what the Regional rankings look like when they come out. As PLU showed, the most important thing is to get hot at the right time. I don't really like this whole round robin thing they do in the SCIAC as teams like CalTech should not be playing in it and are pretty much meaningless for a team like Oxy, actually it hurts them as their SOS drops and many times teams play down to their competition.

Presuming Oxy gets through the 4 game RR unscathed and they finish at least 2nd in the tourney, I have a hard time thinking they won't be in.  If Oxy does a 2 and a BBQ in the SCIAC tourney, it could be trouble for them.   A 2nd place Oxy tourney finish hurts Whitworth.

Otherwise I think this most hurts the second place SCIAC tourney team unless it's Oxy.

This afternoon provided a prime example of the RR games hindering a top team's Pool C chances. A loss for Oxy against CMS is just one more potential nail the selection committee can use against Oxy if they don't win the SCIAC tourney.

[BigPoppa]

I would agree with you. It will be interesting to see what the Regional rankings look like when they come out. As PLU showed, the most important thing is to get hot at the right time. I don't really like this whole round robin thing they do in the SCIAC as teams like CalTech should not be playing in it and are pretty much meaningless for a team like Oxy, actually it hurts them as their SOS drops and many times teams play down to their competition.

Presuming Oxy gets through the 4 game RR unscathed and they finish at least 2nd in the tourney, I have a hard time thinking they won't be in.  If Oxy does a 2 and a BBQ in the SCIAC tourney, it could be trouble for them.   A 2nd place Oxy tourney finish hurts Whitworth.

Otherwise I think this most hurts the second place SCIAC tourney team unless it's Oxy.

This afternoon provided a prime example of the RR games hindering a top team's Pool C chances. A loss for Oxy against CMS is just one more potential nail the selection committee can use against Oxy if they don't win the SCIAC tourney.

The same could be said for ANY conference though. Sometimes top teams lose to bottom-dwellers... it's the nature of the game and OXY will have no one to blame but themselves if they miss out as a result. Plain and simple, teams that SHOULD be in SHOULD NOT lose to CMS.

[Jack Parkman]

I would agree with you. It will be interesting to see what the Regional rankings look like when they come out. As PLU showed, the most important thing is to get hot at the right time. I don't really like this whole round robin thing they do in the SCIAC as teams like CalTech should not be playing in it and are pretty much meaningless for a team like Oxy, actually it hurts them as their SOS drops and many times teams play down to their competition.

Presuming Oxy gets through the 4 game RR unscathed and they finish at least 2nd in the tourney, I have a hard time thinking they won't be in.  If Oxy does a 2 and a BBQ in the SCIAC tourney, it could be trouble for them.   A 2nd place Oxy tourney finish hurts Whitworth.

Otherwise I think this most hurts the second place SCIAC tourney team unless it's Oxy.

This afternoon provided a prime example of the RR games hindering a top team's Pool C chances. A loss for Oxy against CMS is just one more potential nail the selection committee can use against Oxy if they don't win the SCIAC tourney.

The same could be said for ANY conference though. Sometimes top teams lose to bottom-dwellers... it's the nature of the game and OXY will have no one to blame but themselves if they miss out as a result. Plain and simple, teams that SHOULD be in SHOULD NOT lose to CMS.

A SOS of 191 and another game with Caltech will not impress the guys who make the decisions.  The conference tournament will help help the SOS but that is a bad loss this time of the year.

[BigPoppa]

The first regional rankings out today will tell us a LOT of what the NCAA thinks of Oxy... traditionally the NCAA favors teams with a strong SoS. My guess is Oxy will be in the middle to bottom of the West Region rankings as a result of the SoS.

[108 Stitches]

I don't know the process, but I am sure the committee is looking at W/L the last 10 games of the year to see how the team is performing going into the tournament, and I agree with BigPoppa that you don't lose to a team like CMS heading into the conf tournament. I am sure there was a huge letdown from the CLU series the prior week-end but championship teams win those types of games. It will be interesting to see where Oxy is when the regional rankings come out.