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Jack Parkman

Without already being in the top half of the regional rankings, I don't see Oxy gaining any ground after this past weekend and like Big Poppa said, there are still going to be upsets throughout the nation that will really hamper a teams hopes.  Cal Lu being left home last year gives a little bit of a look into Oxy's chances.  I just don't see it happening for Oxy this year.  The very poor SOS just can't be overlooked by the committee.


Ralph Turner

Because we are so isolated, the teams in the Region have to look at the chances to show how good they are.

Play an intra-region tourney in Arizona in February to get the ASC, NWC and (the occasional) SCAC teams.

Catch a couple of snowbirds on Spring Break on their west coast swings.


SoCalBaseballfan

It is all about costs. Great idea for intra conference tourney in Arizona...ASC, SCAC, NWC, SCIAC. Top teams should considered it or BAD SOS will keep you home if you dont get automatic bid

Sluggerdad

Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on May 09, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
It is all about costs. Great idea for intra conference tourney in Arizona...ASC, SCAC, NWC, SCIAC. Top teams should considered it or BAD SOS will keep you home if you dont get automatic bid

After last year, when they missed the regional despite winning 32 games,winning  the regular season champion ship, and reaching the tournament final, Cal Lu decided to take 2 trips this year to increase SOS just in case.  Big expense obviously but worth it. They probably would have gotten in even if they lost the tournament.

The rallying call this year was 4 trips!


BigPoppa

Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Jack Parkman

Quote from: Sluggerdad on May 09, 2016, 10:36:01 PM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on May 09, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
It is all about costs. Great idea for intra conference tourney in Arizona...ASC, SCAC, NWC, SCIAC. Top teams should considered it or BAD SOS will keep you home if you dont get automatic bid

After last year, when they missed the regional despite winning 32 games,winning  the regular season champion ship, and reaching the tournament final, Cal Lu decided to take 2 trips this year to increase SOS just in case.  Big expense obviously but worth it. They probably would have gotten in even if they lost the tournament.

The rallying call this year was 4 trips!

Absolutely.  Traveling is almost required these days in order to get quality games.  Unlike the past when a lot of East Coast teams came to CA for their spring trip, many are going to Florida and AZ in order to get more games.Cal Lu and Chapman went to TX to get 3 games in against decent squads and Pomona went to a different tournament in TX to get 4 games (where they won all 4) but I think AZ is the way to go far the SCIAC.  Caltech, Cal Lu, Redlands and La Verne (twice) all went to AZ this year, and I think it helped all of the SOS.  I hate to beat a dead horse, but Oxy played all of their non-conference games at home and has traveled in the past, but if they want to up their SOS, they must travel and play good teams, not a mediocre NWC team.  I understand how much budgets and conference play can challenge this, but there are numerous ways to fundraise.

Purple Heys

Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 09, 2016, 11:10:30 PM
Quote from: Sluggerdad on May 09, 2016, 10:36:01 PM
Quote from: SoCalBaseballfan on May 09, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
It is all about costs. Great idea for intra conference tourney in Arizona...ASC, SCAC, NWC, SCIAC. Top teams should considered it or BAD SOS will keep you home if you dont get automatic bid

After last year, when they missed the regional despite winning 32 games,winning  the regular season champion ship, and reaching the tournament final, Cal Lu decided to take 2 trips this year to increase SOS just in case.  Big expense obviously but worth it. They probably would have gotten in even if they lost the tournament.

The rallying call this year was 4 trips!

Absolutely.  Traveling is almost required these days in order to get quality games.  Unlike the past when a lot of East Coast teams came to CA for their spring trip, many are going to Florida and AZ in order to get more games.Cal Lu and Chapman went to TX to get 3 games in against decent squads and Pomona went to a different tournament in TX to get 4 games (where they won all 4) but I think AZ is the way to go far the SCIAC.  Caltech, Cal Lu, Redlands and La Verne (twice) all went to AZ this year, and I think it helped all of the SOS.  I hate to beat a dead horse, but Oxy played all of their non-conference games at home and has traveled in the past, but if they want to up their SOS, they must travel and play good teams, not a mediocre NWC team.  I understand how much budgets and conference play can challenge this, but there are numerous ways to fundraise.

I will bet dollars to doughnuts that Oxy coaches did not see themselves getting in this lofty a position...note that last year they missed out of the SCIAC 4 by losing 2 of 3 to La Verne during the season.  I think they had to see themselves as having a better than good chance to get into the SCIAC 4 this season.  So maybe the weak schedule carried them to overachieve.  I saw them as 4th or 5th best in our conference.  That they advanced to the SCIAC 4 championship game round certainly exceeded my expectations.  I think the Oxy coaches might admit that too, when viewing from before the season.
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BigPoppa

If I recall, in the early 2000s TLU was left out of the regional after something like a 30-3 season. Maybe someone knows more than I do about that one.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Jack Parkman

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
If I recall, in the early 2000s TLU was left out of the regional after something like a 30-3 season. Maybe someone knows more than I do about that one.

I'm not sure about TLU but I know the Univ of Dallas had a year like that were they were left at home.  i think they were 34-3 in 2000 and were left home.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 10, 2016, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
If I recall, in the early 2000s TLU was left out of the regional after something like a 30-3 season. Maybe someone knows more than I do about that one.

I'm not sure about TLU but I know the Univ of Dallas had a year like that were they were left at home.  i think they were 34-3 in 2000 and were left home.
In the early 2000's there were very few Pool B bids and only 3 or 4 Pool C bids. 

When did TLU become fully eligible for D-3?  About that time?

BigPoppa

Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 10, 2016, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
If I recall, in the early 2000s TLU was left out of the regional after something like a 30-3 season. Maybe someone knows more than I do about that one.

I'm not sure about TLU but I know the Univ of Dallas had a year like that were they were left at home.  i think they were 34-3 in 2000 and were left home.

I think it WAS Dallas.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Teddy_Ballgame

SCIAC All-Conference Teams announced today: http://thesciac.org/sports/bsb/2015-16/releases/all_conference

Athlete of the Year: Devon DeRaad- Oxy
Pitcher of the Year: Scott Ericksen- Oxy

First Team:
David Gerics          P   JR   Pomona-Pitzer
Will Martel                  P   FR   Occidental
Trey Saito                  P   JR   Cal Lutheran
Jakob Thomas          C   JR   University of La Verne
Jared Love              INF           SO   Chapman
Chad Clark              INF     SR   Cal Lutheran
Davey Casciola      INF           SR   Cal Lutheran
Konnor Zickefoose INF   FR   Chapman
Christian Gurrola     OF   SR   Redlands
Jake Raynaud        OF   JR   Whittier
Bryce Rogan        OF   SO   Pomona-Pitzer
Gavin Blodgett        UT   SO   Chapman
Tanner Nishioka        UT   JR   Pomona-Pitzer

Second Team
Nick Garcia   P   SR   Whittier
Landry Kiyabu   P   SR   Cal Lutheran
Matt Molnar   P   SR   Chapman
Evan Peterson   P   SR   Cal Lutheran
Nate Wehner   P   SO   Cal Lutheran
Eddie Villegas   C   JR   Cal Lutheran
Brady Fuller   INF   SR   Occidental
Matt Omori   INF   SO   Pomona-Pitzer
Christopher Scalisi   INF   JR   Redlands
Ben White          INF   SR   La Verne
Kevin Brice   OF   SR   Pomona-Pitzer
Conner Larkin   OF   SO   Chapman
Trey Smith           OF   SO   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps

Congrats to all those young men on great seasons.
Obviously can't argue with DeRaad as the "Athlete" of the year (I really hope that's a dig at pitchers not being athletes  ;D), incredible year and will probably be an All-American. Pitcher of the year was a little closer- my homer pick would be Gerics (better ERA, more Ks in twenty fewer innings, better WHIP, 7-0 v. 7-1) but Erickson obviously still had a terrific year and played on the team that won the regular season, so he's a fine selection.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 11, 2016, 08:06:45 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 10, 2016, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
If I recall, in the early 2000s TLU was left out of the regional after something like a 30-3 season. Maybe someone knows more than I do about that one.

I'm not sure about TLU but I know the Univ of Dallas had a year like that were they were left at home.  i think they were 34-3 in 2000 and were left home.

I think it WAS Dallas.
Dallas had one of those years.  Unfortunately, I cannot find where those archives cached on the web to confirm.

Just_Some_Guy

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 11, 2016, 08:06:45 AM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 10, 2016, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 10, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
If I recall, in the early 2000s TLU was left out of the regional after something like a 30-3 season. Maybe someone knows more than I do about that one.

I'm not sure about TLU but I know the Univ of Dallas had a year like that were they were left at home.  i think they were 34-3 in 2000 and were left home.

I think it WAS Dallas.

Texas Lutheran finished 3rd in the ASC tourney in 2003. They were 36-4 going into the tournament and were left home. That was the year they started 26-0 and were #1 in the nation for a blip.

Not sure about University of Dallas. They were 33-8 in 2001. I believe McMurry won the ASC tournament that year and went 2 and BBQ in Orange County.

JSG

Ralph Turner