MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

WolfPAC · March 20, 2007, 12:51:42 PM

Chiz one more clue will do it.... gotta get back to work looking forward to your response with your wisdom and experience.

Oh great one, the great Chizwiz. though art the #1 Chizwiz in the Pac.

Just messin with you ole buddy.

You don't have to worry.

chizwiz · March 20, 2007, 03:57:07 PM

Wolf, a few things. I'm not going to give any clues. My identity is not a secret, but the fun part will be lost if I help out. Good luck.

Regarding Cabrini: I have heard that applications are still being accepted. Somebody mentioned Coach Nadelhoffer earlier (I think it was you). I don't know if he is going to apply any more than you do. I do think that it's humorous to think that him going to Cabrini is a significantly better thing than him being at Eastern. He is doing well at EU and we all know the problems at Cabrini that won't change with the hire of a new coach.

Regarding your rankings for next year: you might be holding too high regard for Centenary. They will most likely finish last. With three wins against cellar-dwellars (which is an insult to cellar-dwellars), Centenary is an automatic 2 wins for almost every PAC team during any year.

WolfPAC · March 20, 2007, 10:23:59 PM

Chiz,

Did not realize Centenary was that bad. Kinda is a slap in the face to the PAC.

Hey Chiz, what bars do you go to ?

gamefan · March 21, 2007, 12:13:05 AM

Centenary is bad so is the gym! 2 wins for other teams is correct!

Rumors persist that Chestnut Hill will join the PAC and forgo DII for now!

As far as Cabrini goes, a strong new coach will change things on the court!

Can't speak to the so called backstabbing you speak of, what specifically are you talking about? Alumni, players what?

Quote from: WolfPAC on March 20, 2007, 12:46:49 PM
Chiz,

Who is taking over at Cabrini.... with all that backstabbing going on over there will an outsider take the job or will it be someone from the bench?

chizwiz · March 21, 2007, 08:58:39 AM

Casey's.

chizwiz · March 21, 2007, 09:01:55 AM

I'm not hearing the same of Chestnut Hill, but acknowledge that there are such possibilities. I don't know that much about the Hill. Is it a good school for the PAC?

WolfPAC · March 21, 2007, 09:06:25 AM

gamefan,

Backstabbing I was referring to was the chat from suits and ties sitting on the bench about who and when they will become new coach. They seem to know Coach Macciaocca was gone. I am not referring to former players or alumni.

WolfPAC · March 21, 2007, 09:13:21 AM

Chestnut Hill is that Speedy Morris's sons team? He coached the men or women did he not. I have seen them play. They have size and tenacity but lack the team concept. I believe I saw them play at Cabrini 2 or 3 years ago. The Cavs beat them easily.

They looked rough and intimidating but they could not play together well as a team back then. I think they have come a along way since then. I am mainly referring to the women's team. The men remind me of a wanna-be Lincoln type of team not quite there yet.

Guess they are a better asset to the PAC than Centenary.
I thought Stevens was coming here as well. Not the ranked Stevens but the one from around here. Stevens Institute of Tech. or something like that. Why doesn't Rowan or Rutgers figure into the equation. What about VillaJulie or even CCCP or Phila U. ?

gamefan · March 21, 2007, 10:21:51 AM

Everyone involved seemed to know that Coach M. was in trouble! If you read the interview on the schools newspaper, players knew that Coach M was not taking advice from his Assistants including scouting reports as written in the school newspaper! I don't think there was backstabbing but the coaches certainly did not agree with Coach M. philosophy it was evident from the stands there were differences on the staff! I wondered what he was doing most times? He always looked lost when he called a timeout and was usually yelling at the kids not setting up a plan! At least that is how it looked from the stands at the games I attended.

You would know because of your ties, but the article kind says it all! The kids said they felt unprepared most games and it showed. I only met Coach M. once and he was not very friendly at all no people skills, that was not a good thing after the situation that removed Dzik! They needed someone who can relate to the players, familes and the alumni and The School community. Tough spot for anyone following Dzik! Maybe he should have hired TO's publicist after the great job she did for him? Just kidding!

I will deferr to you Wolf since you seem to know the inside of the Cabrini situation. My knowledge is from long distance word of mouth seeing some games and the newspaper article.

There was talk about Stevens Tech but it died out last year, Rowan "football" is an issue for PAC schools as is Rutgers. Philly U is DII doubt Coach Magee would change. PCOM maybe but the Delaware schools are better options close by and decent academic schools also.

Interested to hear you response?

zonescantstopme · March 21, 2007, 11:45:27 AM

No Love for the Cyclones in this room, Centenary has a brand new facility that just opened in Feb. They should be alot more competitive if not catch alot of teams by surprise who are underestimating them kind of like you guys are this year, there team battled through alot this year, injuries ect as does every team but it seemed like everything that could have went wrong did for them.

They have an exceptional recruiting class coming in and only graduate to SR's as well as returning the Number 4 scorer in the country so i wouldnt exactly count them out yet its not like the Pac has UWSP caliber teams.

zonescantstopme · March 21, 2007, 11:51:12 AM

stevens institute is joining the empire 8 if im not mistaken, they went to the sweet 16 this year

gamefan · March 21, 2007, 02:31:05 PM

Injuries are part of the game for sure! Every team has to play thru them! Nice to see the new building! They will have a similar advantage as`Marywood because of the drive for most PAC teams.

Time will tell if they can compete in the PAC looks like they could not compete in their present conference by the looks of things.

WolfPAC · March 21, 2007, 03:59:04 PM

Quote from: gamefan on March 21, 2007, 10:21:51 AM
Everyone involved seemed to know that Coach M. was in trouble! If you read the interview on the schools newspaper, players knew that Coach M was not taking advice from his Assistants including scouting reports as written in the school newspaper! I don't think there was backstabbing but the coaches certainly did not agree with Coach M. philosophy it was evident from the stands there were differences on the staff! I wondered what he was doing most times? He always looked lost when he called a timeout and was usually yelling at the kids not setting up a plan! At least that is how it looked from the stands at the games I attended.

You would know because of your ties, but the article kind says it all! The kids said they felt unprepared most games and it showed. I only met Coach M. once and he was not very friendly at all no people skills, that was not a good thing after the situation that removed Dzik! They needed someone who can relate to the players, familes and the alumni and The School community. Tough spot for anyone following Dzik! Maybe he should have hired TO's publicist after the great job she did for him? Just kidding!

I will deferr to you Wolf since you seem to know the inside of the Cabrini situation. My knowledge is from long distance word of mouth seeing some games and the newspaper article.

There was talk about Stevens Tech but it died out last year, Rowan "football" is an issue for PAC schools as is Rutgers. Philly U is DII doubt Coach Magee would change. PCOM maybe but the Delaware schools are better options close by and decent academic schools also.

Interested to hear you response?

Hoping the AD at Cabrini takes things serious and hires a someone who knows the ways of winning & recruiting. Thank God for Cabrini LAX .
Centenary used to get trounced in the Dzik era.

Hoping Cabrini leaves the PAC because there is not much out there. Cabrini is a great academic institution but athletically.....the bb program needs help to get over the top from the people at the top which will not happen until the president is gone.

WolfPAC · March 21, 2007, 04:10:01 PM

Game, the school needs a spokesman for the students athletically without a president who takes all the credit. The AD knows what it takes but the people at the top have made her sort of a puppet and she needs to survive herself.

Without the resources or without a full-time coach the days of the past are long gone without the support from the basketball alumni. If the students use their own voice, power and right to protest something could happen for them. Use the education from Cabrini to make it better for all the students.

Tuition is outrageous and the students have less voice. This is a proud or was a proud D3 institution with a legend at the helm. Regardless that Dzik is gone the legacy is ongoing in the LAX teams play. Dzik was also instrumental in hiring the womens basketball coach who is doing a good job in her short time there as well. Cannot dwell in past.

The school ( students/athletes) and the campus is great but the top admn must exit for the family atmosphere and the serious recruiting to begin for winning.

Hoping the students prove me wrong.

WolfPAC · March 21, 2007, 04:27:02 PM

Hey Game one more thing....

Look at all those championship flags in the Dixon Center. No other schoo in the PAC can touch the Cavs until recently. Everyone of the those flags was a battle, hard work and grit. The LAX is just a glimpse of the past glory days.

With Cabrini's talent and campus they could destroy the PAC with some coaching skills and the legacy left. The president has already made a bad choice though and the AD has her hands tied in a sense. Students mean dollars so until enrollment declines they don't care at the top. Dzik did studies for years and cost analysis on a turf field as well as a mens baseball team. The budget constraints and land lock did bring them a softball field with a team that missed the world series by a game. The publicity in the paper was endless for the PAC and the school but times are different for the PAC.. the women obviously worked their tails off and upset Rowan in lax. Makes the PAC better as well.

If the students on campus attended more games and got involved it would help them to understand what is going on as well. Cabrini College was built by John Dzik and men's basketball and alot of hardworking students not bricks, mortar, and egos.