MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

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gamefan

Wolf:

They will bring in a good fit this time. I bet even Dzik would tell you that even he made a mistake or two along the way, it happens!

Will be interesting to see if they promote from within which is why Alvernia made a smooth tranistion! It looked like there was only one assistant who looked to have enough years of experience to pull it off. A current players family sitting in the crowd at a game I attended said he has been a head coach for many years at different levels with the last 2 years at Cabrini.  Others looked too young and inexperienced! Really do not know him though.

Hard to tell what kind of applications might come in from the ad! I bet the AD gets it right after the trouble
from the last!

Wolf with your contacts what has Dzik heard do you know? Have you talked to him or anyone you  know talked to him about the situation?


WolfPAC

Game,

Coach Dzik and his wife are having the time of their life down south.  I will not speak for him.

I can tell you however that I doubt if he will ever coach Cabrini again.  He is proud of his former players as well.  He loves the real Cabrini college and the many friends and alumni he has worked for and with over the years.  They are still loyal to him as well.  This will never change.

Many still visit him down there and relive all the memories.   This so-called basketball program at Cabrini now is far removed from the pride and tradition.   John's hardwork and family attitudes literally put the college on the map and created the true Cabrini family.  He even stepped aside for his friends to empower them.  Without dwelling in the past, the president made the worse possible move in ousting John.

Over the years I have learned that people with great, impressive resumes are all fluff.  The true leaders and knowledgeable people do it in their own quiet way and their actions speak for themselves.  I don't care if a person came from the NBA, D1, or Wake Forest... it means nothing in D3 the purest form of basketball.  Everyone applying will come in with their Sunday best but their record needs to speak. Without the support of the admn. it is difficult to execute any plan.

The right candidate would have been Coach Kelly, but his loyalty with Dzik and the alumni has no price on his head and far surpasses any fancy resume.  Time will tell.  One thing is for sure, John still loves the true Cabrini family.

I was hoping the president would be gone by now.   Things would be quite different then they are now.  You cannot just step in and coach just because you coached a high school team either.   Someone who bleeds blue and white and knows the make-up of the school needs to step in and right the ship but this will not happen with the current admn. 

gamefan

Wolf:

Thanks for the Dzik family update! Glad to hear they are doing well, he is a good man and a good coach for sure.

From what I hear it will be interesting as the kids and families liked a couple of the coaches on staff! Thats why I asked if you heard any discussion about the one coach?

Wolf:

A resume is one thing but a true coach and people person is easy to read. The last coach was neither of those! I think the admin knows that this choice should be someone who can mingle with the families and the alumni and be liked and get the chance to earn the alumni respect! Whoever is the new coach should reach out to Dzik and see if he can sit down with him and talk. Obviously Dzik can help the new coach understand the school community and the alumni!

I think the alumni will support a coach who invites them back with open arms and talks to them and discusses the things that are going on within! Gonna have to give someone a chance why not try the known who has been on staff and from what the familes said was someone who they could talk to! Will make the transition easier if everyone does not have to get comfortable with a new person.

I have seen many coaching changes in many sports and the changes that go smoothly usually involve someone on staff taking over! There have been times when outsiders comein and do well also but I think there have been more of the former than the latter!

Anyway it will be interesting to see what they choose to do, just hope the BB program gets back on track and I hope that somehow they can have Dzik as a friend and not an eneemy! Shame to see a great tradition not have ties to its very significant roots!

Who knows maybe Cabrini could play Piedmont at their place one year and Piedmont could come up and play Cabrini the next? Would be nice to see! I am sure there could be great interest from the alumni!

In a perfect world!

WolfPAC

Wishful thinking Game.

If I heard anything of fact regarding a coaching hire I would let you know. I do not like to speculate or start rumors so for now all is quiet. Nice to hear someone else cares out there though.

Cabrini is too good to throw away.

gamefan

Wolf:

Thanks for the kind words! Cabrini is a Diamond that just needs some polishing to become a shining star again!

Lets hope for some good news!

Here's to better times at Cabrini! And as Dickie V says "Keep the Faith Baby"!

D3fan14

Gamefan:
"A current player's family sitting in the crowd at a game I attended said he has been a head coach for many years at different levels with the last 2 years at Cabrini.  Others looked too young and inexperienced! Really do not know him though."

Game: I am pretty sure that the person on staff you are talking about at Cabrini is Coach Grandizio. First of all, he does not have head coaching experience nor is he even qualified to get the job because it states pretty clearly that the person needs a minimum bachelor's degree.

Unfortunately, that family had a whole lot of smoke blown up their a**.

I would be very surprised if any of the former coaches were asked to stay on, with the possible exception of Cabrini Alums. Disagreement with the head coach's decisions or not, the coaching profession is a lot about loyalty (Kelly's to Dzik, prime example) so why would any new coach ever want to hire someone who is a known back-stabber?




gamefan


Think you should read the ad again.

After reading the ad and, if what I was told in the stands is true, coupled with the Cabrini site saying he attended St. Joes I would think he is qualified!

Sorry if you have a problem with him!

I have no interest except to see Cabrini Basketball get better!

D3fan14

Game:

It says St. Josephs, Pa, no grad date on the website. Can't get the BA  or '80 without finishing :-)

If you really want Cabrini to get better then you would want someone with previous college coaching experience and preferably head college coaching experience.

If the admin would support the program with real full time $$ then Cabrini should be able to get and deserves someone better than Grandizio.

And no I do not like him or his alter ego of Allstarscout.


WolfPAC

None of those guys qualify.  It would just be a stepping stone or feather in their cap to coach Cabrini.

They are dreaming.

Take a look at the leading scorer of the college for the men.  He would be a candidate with his experience but again the admn is in the way and he probably is not ready or willing to accept the job due to the circumstances.

I do feel sorry for Saleem and Bill Leahy who played for Coach Dzik and do care about the program.  Hope they are not just being used by the college to keep the program together and then just dismissed.  The Mayor is one hell of a guy who played his heart out.

It takes alot of intangibles and experience in the clutch to recruit talent and sell the campus. Hard work is what it takes with financial support but the new Cabrini is not about heart and soul but instead bricks, mortar, and collecting paychecks only.  You must live Cabrini, die Cabrini, drink Cabrini, and give it all to the coach on the floor yelling or not yelling at you for the sake of the team and the pride of the Cavaliers.  This is not about ego trips or prestige.   Perhaps the admn needs change before anything else can be corrected.  Just hope they don't mess with the laxcrossers next.

Recruiting when you are already 4 yrs behind is hard enough, then with a new coach and a system to adjust to it just does not happen overnight unless you are Dzik.  Somebody screwed up ! ! !

gamefan

It takes alot of intangibles and experience in the clutch to recruit talent and sell the campus. Hard work is what it takes with financial support but the new Cabrini is not about heart and soul but instead bricks, mortar, and collecting paychecks only.  You must live Cabrini, die Cabrini, drink Cabrini, and give it all to the coach on the floor yelling or not yelling at you for the sake of the team and the pride of the Cavaliers.  This is not about ego trips or prestige.
 

Wolf are you saying you need to be an alumni to coach at Cabrini?

If so then I guess the following list is not qualified in no partivylar order:

Tubby Smith, Dean Smith, Rick Pitino, Bobby Knight, Phil Martelli, Jay Wright, Larry Browm, Phil Jackson are not qualified?

Just asking Wolf?


chizwiz

d3fan, you crack me up.  I'm glad someone was strong enough to mention who AllStarScout was.  Good job.

I agree with Wolf and gamefan, Cabrini needs a great coach.  I hope they get one, but their and the PAC's sake.  I don't think they necessarily need an alum, but they do need someone who respects, values, and will honor the Cabrini tradition that Dzik created and maintained.  Hopefully the admin will see this as a needed trait.  But I doubt it.

The Cabrini alums deserve it and more so the current players.

On to the next topic, I hope - Does Alvernia repeat next year?
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

MR. PAC

WolfPAC, with reference to Speedy Morris that was his son who coach Chestnut Hill Girls about five years ago.  He certainly will be a great addition to the PAC.

Chizwiz, with reference to the vern you know coach Miller and his staff will reload. With Alvernia's starting players returning [ Shawell, Bradley, King] and with miller's recruiting skills the vern should get some votes for top 25. Also the vern should be the favorite to win the PAC, and will win the PAC.

Coach P

I THINK IT IS TIME TO REVEAL SOME INFORMATION ON THIS BOARD...

1. THE PERSON WHO IS FORMER ALL-STAR SCOUT IS ME!

2. IT SEEMS LIKE D3FAN14 IS THE FORMER CABRINI COACH (NOT DZIK) OR HIS SIGNIFICANT OTHER- THE EMAIL ADDRESS OF "BEERSMAC@HOTMAIL.COM" INCLINES ME TO MAKE THAT INFERENCE- BEERS AND MAC IS A COMBINATION OF A MAIDEN NAME AND CURRENT LAST NAME- ALONG WITH THEIR CONSTANT SUPPORT OF THE FORMER HEAD COACH AND THE CONSTANT BASHING OF THE ASSISTANT COACH WHO WAS ASKED TO LEAVE THE TEAM THIS YEAR BY THE HEAD COACH FOR "BACKSTABBING"

3. THE FORMER CABRINI COACH GOT FIRED BECAUSE OF THE PLAYERS AND PLAYER FAMILIES- THE WHOLE TEAM ALONG WITH MANY FAMILY MEMBERS APPROACHED THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR TO FIRE HIM- ANY PLAYER DURING THE PAST 2 SEASONS CAN CONFIRM THIS-
I WOULD ASK JEFF DAILY, JIM MCMAHON, DOMINIQUE BARRON, OR COLIN FITZGERALD- ALL PLAYED FOR DZIK AND THEN LEFT THE FORMER COACH- I THINK THESE ARE ALL GOOD BASKETBALL GUYS- AND YOU CAN ADD BRUCE MACLELLAND (WHO HAS 1 YEAR OF ELIGIBILITY LEFT) TO THAT LIST WHO DECIDED NOT TO COME BACK NEXT SEASON AND WAS HONORED DURING SENIOR NIGHT, NOW MACLELLAND HAS TOLD THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR AND ASSISTANT COACHES ON STAFF HE IS RETURNING

JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT

chizwiz

Coach P, please take off your caps lock.  It's that button on the extreme left side of the keyboard that says "Caps Lock".  Thanks.

Next, you haven't been on this site long enough to start naming names.  Nobody will believe you.  Plus, we don't care if d3fan14 is Macciocca.  He's done at Cabrini now.  And that's not him anyway.

Why are you changing accounts?  It's pretty suspicious when you do that.

The stuff you are telling us about Macciocca's firing is not news to anyone, especially those who follow d3 sports.  Give us something more interesting.  And, tell us something more accurate, too.  I seriously doubt that the AD fired the coach solely because of what the parents said.  This isn't high school sports.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

gamefan

Quote from: chizwiz on December 12, 2006, 12:52:20 PM





"How and why he let McMahon, Dailey, and Fitzgerald go, only they know. 

First, the team has not fallen because of youth and inexperience.  They fell because he removed his veterans with experience.

I have my source and I stand behind it.  (Hint: I know both Dailey and Fitzgerald.)

Second, watch Macciocca in time-outs.  If he doesn't remind you of a deer-in-the-headlights, then you haven't been driving in Pennsylvania much.  Call me next time he actually calls a set during a TO and we'll throw a party.  I'll throw in a free case of Schlitt's Malt if the set responds to the current defense being shown."
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Chiz

I believe these were your words in an earlier post?  I did take out some things I did not think need to be discussed again, like his income source outside of when he coached! Since you know Dailey & Fitzgerald you should be able to check out the information and give us a shout back!

I think it is interesting especially the information about Beers Mac does make sense  I read in his bio his wifes name was Beers and Mac for Macciocca, unless someone is trying to make it seem like it is them!   I also think the information regarding his firing might be more correct than you think! It was reported that families of the players and the players were very unhappy with this guy!

Whether it is true or not, it certainly makes for some good reading for sure, gotta love a great mystery or as it turned out a great horror story?

Thanks Coach P. We needed something interesting to think and  read about!

Chiz heres your chance to show your Cabrini contacts, check it out for us? Inquiring minds want to know?