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Chris Panter, GMC SID

Quote from: Flyer on February 14, 2008, 06:24:36 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 14, 2008, 05:39:50 PM
Quote from: Flyer on February 14, 2008, 04:51:20 PM


Point taken, no hard feelings.   Seriously, I was at tournaments and regionals at Catholic, and a Sweet 16, & Elite 8 and the campus was well organized and professional when conducting all events.  The shopping was nice as well down there.   Following 400 teams is a real job. 



why thank you....
hope those stat monitors are holding up
Ham sandwich, baby

Flyer

Quote from: MR. PAC on February 14, 2008, 09:33:05 PM
The vern with a big win over the Mighty Macs.Vern clinches homecourt just about.Also,I think cabrini if they played well could beat Catholic.Seen them play the vern in a scrimmage,they were not that good.Cabrini could beat them.

I am glad you see it my way Mr. Pac.  Tell Chizwiz as well.  I heard Eastern also beat Widener in their summer ball league only Widener was without there top 2 guys.   Does this mean Eastern is going to win the Pac and go deep in the tournament because they beat Widener in the summer?

The Vern has too much talent and in the clutch they have players who are confident enough to put the ball up or take it to the rim.  Even if they miss it seems somehow they get a putback.   

Mr. Pac and Jon,  Please win the next game.

Flyer

Quote from: Jon on February 14, 2008, 10:47:02 PM
What happens when a potential 1-2 tie-breaker is dependent on a 6-7 tie-breaker which is dependent on a 1-2 tie-breaker...


If the Vern just wins out we don't have to worry!

Tough decision........... drive to the far reaches of the planet to Miseri or just over the hills to Reading for a cold one at the Cemetary. 

Flyer

Quote from: Chris Panter, GMC SID on February 15, 2008, 12:08:52 AM
Quote from: Flyer on February 14, 2008, 06:24:36 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 14, 2008, 05:39:50 PM
Quote from: Flyer on February 14, 2008, 04:51:20 PM


Point taken, no hard feelings.   Seriously, I was at tournaments and regionals at Catholic, and a Sweet 16, & Elite 8 and the campus was well organized and professional when conducting all events.  The shopping was nice as well down there.   Following 400 teams is a real job. 



why thank you....
hope those stat monitors are holding up


Hard to get a boxscore at the half though...those SID's are doing just fine.

hIdeUmm

since nobody else wants too ill do it... Congrats to Jr. Kyle Finklea on Scoring his 1,000 point @ Alvernia last night. Tough/bad loss last night. o well life goes on i guess got to win out now to save 2nd place... right?

Jon

HIdeUmm,

Interesting string of statements there.  I think you could have just thrown congrats to Finklea without loading it up with the "since nobody else wants to do it" statement.  From what I know there is a great deal of respect around the league for Finklea due to his talent and character.

Quote from: HIdeUmm on February 15, 2008, 11:27:02 AM
Tough/bad loss last night.

I gotta question that one a bit too.  I'm not sure a loss to the two-time defending champion on its home court is a bad loss.  Tough, maybe, but certainly not bad.

hIdeUmm

i understand that the league respects Finklea HOWEVER randy reid gets his 1000 as a senior and not taking anything away from reid cause i respect him and enjoy watcvhing him play and the post immediately following that game which i beleve was a loss as welll everyone gives him his due... just a thought...

its a bad loss because now the Macs HAVE to go back to reading if they make the final... they were up 10, i know to the defending champs but up 10 to a team they beat in the beginning of the season...that could be the key...the beginning of the season. it is a bad loss cause it is the 3rd in a row.

Flyer

Quote from: HIdeUmm on February 15, 2008, 12:10:54 PM
i understand that the league respects Finklea HOWEVER randy reid gets his 1000 as a senior and not taking anything away from reid cause i respect him and enjoy watcvhing him play and the post immediately following that game which i beleve was a loss as welll everyone gives him his due... just a thought...

its a bad loss because now the Macs HAVE to go back to reading if they make the final... they were up 10, i know to the defending champs but up 10 to a team they beat in the beginning of the season...that could be the key...the beginning of the season. it is a bad loss cause it is the 3rd in a row.



Don't worry too much Hideumm everyone respects the Immac players and you are not out of anything.   Just ask Jon about the past 5 years and how many times the top seed has actually won the PAc championship.

If more Immac people posted on the board they would get more respect as well I am sure.  Sounds like you care about your team a great deal and stand up for them.   

Sometimes its better to be the #2 seed.   The Vern has some great players but they can be beaten.  But will it happen on their court?  It is tough to win at the Vern and the refs up there seem biased at times to the visiting team in the heat of the moment.   Thats no excuse for losing there though.    Anybody can beat anybody this year........ it comes down to the final buzzer ehh.....

lefty2

FlyerPACman,

I seem to remember a time when the "refs" at weren't biased in Alveria's favor.

An alleged buzzer-beater got your Cavs on ESPN and into the NCAA's.
The person who says something can't be done shouldn't stand in the way of the one who's doing it.

Jon

And the Southpaw hits one outta the park for the Vern.

It's like WolFlyer says on the 1,000 point front, there are several Cabrini connections appearing as regulars on this board, so it makes sense the Reid's accomplishments were noted right away.  And as soon as the next Eagle hits 1,000 I'm sure the bounty of Eastern supporters will note that here post-haste.

I would say the Macs are in a bad streak at the moment, but plenty of good teams lose 10-point, first-half leads.  It was only 28-18, the majority of the scoring was still to come.

As for officials, I am contractually obligated to not speak/write in a judgmental fashion about referees, umpires, or officials, but I did enjoy the little piece from the Flyer that said the refs appear to be "biased at times to the visiting team."

Flyer

Quote from: lefty2 on February 15, 2008, 12:44:41 PM
FlyerPACman,

I seem to remember a time when the "refs" at weren't biased in Alveria's favor.

An alleged buzzer-beater got your Cavs on ESPN and into the NCAA's.


Jon and Lefty2,

The keyword in the ref discussion was APPEAR to be but I know they are not!    That is why I ended my last post with FINAL BUZZER ehh.

The refs do a hell of a job but cannot please everyone all the time.  Perhaps because the refs at different places do not have familiar faces to all people/fans and the passion in the stands is overflowing it seems as if there is favoritism at times.  Obviously at this level I doubt it is happening.

In all games in general it seems the first half the calls go one way for one team and they tend to try to even it up in the second half sometimes the score also dictates calls according to the shouters in the stands.   Then at crunch time the losing team that is so close and doesn't make their foul shots causes the common fan to blame someone.


As far as Kareem Brunson's game winning shot....many claim the table was trying to quick buzz the shot ! ! 

Like I said you cannot please everyone!  If the call went the other way you know who would be crying.  Then again, if the Vern player got the rebound on that play or did not miss the foul shot intentionally acccording to the coach's instruction the game could have had a different outcome.

Gotta love it anyway! ! !


Flyer

Jon I forgot to mention the losing team and the winning team have to beat the refs as well as the opponent.   So please forgive me where I am coming from.   I know usually in the playoffs there should be a ref for the visiting team and one for the home team and a neutral ref.
Yeah right!

The visiting coach should have a say the matter. But then again.. that is home field advantage and the higher seeded team earns that right. 

Jon

I hate to continually refer to my contractual obligations, but we must speak of the shot no more.  The tape is locked in a safe inside a drawer inside a cabinet in the dungeon.  To even consider watching it again is to risk eternal banishment from the institution.

To answer the seeding question from earlier, the #1 seed in the PAC Championship has won each of the last four titles.  The last two to the Vern and the two before that to GMC.  The #1 seed has won nine of the 15 titles.

mailsy

Quote from: Jon on February 15, 2008, 02:12:20 PM
To answer the seeding question from earlier, the #1 seed in the PAC Championship has won each of the last four titles.  The last two to the Vern and the two before that to GMC.  The #1 seed has won nine of the 15 titles.

As a none #1 team or even a non #2 team as a fan we hope the trend does not continue.  But the reason the trend continues is because they just happen to be BETTER.  That's the way it goes.  We can all hope of the remaining 4 other teams one of them can win three in the playoffs.

Regarding the referees.  Hardly anyone on the losing end of a close game ever said:  "those referees, man they just called a fabulous game."  If you're good enough to win...  you win, despite the referees and despite the court your playing on.  If your better that day you win. 
Cabrini Cavaliers 2012 National Runner-Up.
First official poster on the Atlantic East forum board.

chairman

I've heard stories of when Cabrini fans considered games in Reading to be a home game. It is not that way anymore. The PEC is a tough place to win, and I would say that no one in the league could- at any point in the past six years anyways- call any loss there a bad loss in the sense that they were expecting to win. Certainly it was a big game for Immaculata and the the result was a disappointing one, but to get the two-time defending champs twice in the regular season would not be something that anyone in the conference should believe should be done.

Congrats to Kyle on his accomplishment. It feels like he scored about 800 of those against Eastern. He was very good the other night against pretty good defense. On occasion the Eastern team gives up career nights to players because they forget to defend. this was not the case with Finklea the other night. He hit a number of very tough shots and made plays to give his team a  good chance to win.

Saturday will be interesting. The Eagles will have to shoot well and force one of the big two to a poor shooting performance while not giving a career game to a 6 ppg scorer.

Looking forward to maybe grabbing a slice of Pizza- which I've never had but have heard much about.

I hope that I can hit 200 with a post about a great win for Eastern.