MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

lefty2 · February 18, 2008, 10:18:24 PM

I was watching the live stats and they had the longest 30-second timeout in history.

chairman · February 18, 2008, 11:33:56 PM

Very long game tonight for the Eagles, who now, barring a Centenary Miracle, have to win their way in on Thursday at Immaculata. One quick observation about the game. The advantage of being a very balanced team with a lot of guys who can score is that it is tough for the opposition to key on one particular player. The problem with it is that sometimes it is tough for your own team to key on one player as well. Williams was fantastic tonight. The Jeff Dailey thing is a very emotional thing for him, and I think it meant a lot to him.
The rest of the Eastern team didn't look like they wanted to take the gift that Cabrini tried to hand them. Thursday IS a playoff game.

mailsy · February 18, 2008, 11:34:00 PM

Yes, I see you my many "guest" friends. I have been found out. It wasn't like I was really trying to hide who I was.

Congrats to Cabrini for returning to the playoffs after a 2 year absence. Have to win 3 to win it all. Packed house tonight at the Dixon Center. Pride coach you called it.

Flyer, roadtrip? We will see depending on time of game. EU has a tough road ahead at IU. But IU reeling... 4 losses in a row-- but last game at home.

Helloooo Neumann, don't lose to Centenary. EU rooting against you.

hIdeUmm · February 18, 2008, 11:39:25 PM

so are the Macs in 4th or second as we speak... D3hoops standind have them at for the Matrix has them at 2? i believe the Matrix even tho its a 3 way tie

Jon · February 18, 2008, 11:51:31 PM

PAC Fans,

Quick game in the PEC tonight...it was over in time to catch the last 10-plus on livestats from the Dixon Center.

Here's how I see a few things...someone correct me if they see otherwise.

1. Alvernia Top Seed
2. If Eastern gets in with 8 wins [5. Cabrini, 6. Eastern], 9 wins [5. Eastern, 6. Cabrini]. If Neumann gets in [5. Cabrini, 6. Neumann]
3. IU, GMC, Mis are 2, 3, 4 in some combination.
a. One of GMC/Mis will finish 11-5, the other 10-6
b. If IU beats Eastern
i. IU holds tb over Mis for 2
ii. IU/GMC comes down to a coin flip for 2 (identical record vs. all PAC schools, no non-conference differences)
c. If IU loses to Eastern
i. IU holds tb over Mis for 3 (hosts Cabrini, Mis hosts Eastern)
ii. IU holds tb over GMC with 1-1 record vs. Mis

Jon · February 18, 2008, 11:52:57 PM

HIdeUmm,

Please pay no attention to either the man behind the curtain or the rank order of tied teams in the matrix. I have not broken any ties on the matrix and don't even list the teams in alphabetical order. It is a completely random assignment.

hIdeUmm · February 19, 2008, 12:01:44 AM

so if the Macs win on Thursday and Miseri beats GMC again the Macs get 2. If the Macs and GMC wins it goes to a coin flip??? Just trying to understand the tiebreakers. I thank you for your help everyone...

Flyer · February 19, 2008, 12:05:06 AM

Quote from: mailsy on February 18, 2008, 11:34:00 PM
Yes, I see you my many "guest" friends. I have been found out. It wasn't like I was really trying to hide who I was.

Congrats to Cabrini for returning to the playoffs after a 2 year absence. Have to win 3 to win it all. Packed house tonight at the Dixon Center. Pride coach you called it.

Flyer, roadtrip? We will see depending on time of game. EU has a tough road ahead at IU. But IU reeling... 4 losses in a row-- but last game at home.

Helloooo Neumann, don't lose to Centenary. EU rooting against you.

Beautiful night for Cavs fans ehh..... Heart goes out to the Dailey family.

Difference in the game was the EU turnovers and Reid down low.

JON.... could you tell us all in English who will play who and when since you seem to be the most rational one of the crowd and where the games will be next.

Alvernia is obvious now. 2 plays 6 and 3 plays 5 who plays 4 ? Holy Cow I am screwed up now. Don't even tell me there will tiebreakers.

Jon · February 19, 2008, 12:08:50 AM

HIdeUmm,

Don't hold me to that as gospel truth. I was just looking at some scenarios and that's what I came up with. The Macs hold the h2h with Misericordia based on record vs. Alvernia. The Macs and GMC have a few common opponents on the non-conference schedule, but the results are the same against each one. #5 in the tie-breaker procedure does say that a coin flip will then break ties for seeds 2-5.

Jon · February 19, 2008, 12:11:33 AM

Flyguy,

Keep serving up easy ones like that and I'll be a full dues paying member of the Karma Police before the playoffs hit...just in time to take this show to the Freedom Board and start smiting people...

1 and 2 both get byes for the quarterfinal round

6 is @ 3
5 is @ 4

1 gets the lowest seed remaining (highest number) which is either #6 or winner of 4/5
2 gets the other team

chairman · February 19, 2008, 01:12:07 AM

Done working...So I'll talk now.

As I mentioned before, and I think we see what I meant. As talented as the Eastern players are, there is no single All-Conference player, and that might be their undoing. They desperately needed someone to throw the other guys on his back and say come along for the ride. Everyone looked far to willing to pass the ball (and the responsibility) and they seemed to invent new ways to give the ball away in the last five minutes of the first half, which IMO is where the game was lost. Cabrini was not getting production from Reid or Washington and seemed very disoriented on offense and Eastern wasted possession after possession with missed FT's, easy shots or turnovers. Eastern missed maybe 12 first half lay-ups. They had a chance to run away and hide, and they didn't.

A great battle to cut an 8 point lead to one in the last three minutes, but at some point someone needs to step up and do it. Miller and Reels have at times this year looked like they might make a run at being that guy, but tonight both were MIA --7 points between the two.

Come on Cyclones. DO IT! We are not too proud to take a back door.

Flyer · February 19, 2008, 09:42:54 AM

Quote from: Jon on February 19, 2008, 12:11:33 AM
Flyguy,

Keep serving up easy ones like that and I'll be a full dues paying member of the Karma Police before the playoffs hit...just in time to take this show to the Freedom Board and start smiting people...

1 and 2 both get byes for the quarterfinal round

6 is @ 3
5 is @ 4

1 gets the lowest seed remaining (highest number) which is either #6 or winner of 4/5
2 gets the other team

Thx Jon,

When you are out of the playoffs for 2 years it is unusual for Cabrini so I forgot how it works already. I wasn't sure about the bye anymore.

So... if Neuman wins EU is out

even if EU beats IMMAC or only if IMMAC beats EU right... I think so, maybe, Jon who the heck will Cabrini play next if EU wins? If EU loses ?? (assuming Neuman wins in both scenarios)

Jon · February 19, 2008, 10:16:49 AM

Flyer,

Eastern is the one that controls its own destiny. If the Eagles win, they are in regardless of what Neumann does.

If Eastern loses and Neumann wins, the Knights are in. If they both lose, Eastern is in.

Cabrini is fifth if Eastern loses and six if Eastern wins. The Cavs will be on the road at either Immaculata, Gwynedd-Mercy, or Misericordia on Saturday.

lefty2 · February 19, 2008, 10:33:17 AM

Glad to see Flyer didn't suffer any serious injuries when he jumped off the bandwagon over the weekend.

Flyer · February 19, 2008, 01:19:05 PM

Quote from: Jon on February 19, 2008, 10:16:49 AM
Flyer,

Eastern is the one that controls its own destiny. If the Eagles win, they are in regardless of what Neumann does.

If Eastern loses and Neumann wins, the Knights are in. If they both lose, Eastern is in.

Cabrini is fifth if Eastern loses and six if Eastern wins. The Cavs will be on the road at either Immaculata, Gwynedd-Mercy, or Misericordia on Saturday.

Jon,
Thank you again matrix guru. You deserve a raise.

Mailsy, I don't feel like driving to nowhere again. Reading is good enough. Nothing against Misery but the mountains don't do anything for me. I thought about buying some land up there but I don't think so (Carbon or Potter county) the winters are too long up there I think I would go insane. Maybe the Pa lumberjack festival up on Rte 6 would be fun though.

Pocono Raceway in the summer maybe, Knoebel's, camping or skiing and the scenery are nice but I guess it would be easy to stay focused and get a 4.0 up there.

Should bring my bow up there and get me a buck for a taxidermist or wake up a bear for some excitement. They do have a nice Pizza place on 309 South by Harvey's Lake. They gotta fix their potholes up there too.