MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

[Coach K]

Come on now people lets be honest here.  A team who can hardly beat Keystone does not deserve any kind of top 25 consideration.  Fact of the matter is a win in this league means nothing unless it is against Cabrini, GMC, Neumann, or IU.

5-0 is still 5-0. Cabrini may get that ranking based on name recognition from past glory. But it is still a positive for D3 hoops in the Mid-Atlantic, and for the CSAC as a conference to have a strong Cabrini program. Trust me, I am by far NOT a Cabrini supporter, but I have witnessed or heard about unbelieveable games between them and GMC, Alvernia, Misericordia. When they are at their best, they are fun to watch, and it is just nice to see them get some recognition around the country again as a viable program. Will they become a top 25 team? Probably not, especially given that the CSAC won't be strong top to bottom. But at least they seem like they are back from the mess of the past three years.

[mailsy]

Come on now people lets be honest here.  A team who can hardly beat Keystone does not deserve any kind of top 25 consideration.  Fact of the matter is a win in this league means nothing unless it is against Cabrini, GMC, Neumann, or IU.

First of all it's always a welcome to have new posters to the board.   But don't be hatin'  .  If you've read the post it was about giving recognition.  I certainly am under no delusion that Cabrini or certainly any member of the CSAC including your beloved IU is a top 25 team right now.  The track record for this league is certainly not there yet to prove it.  But if you read my post...

Hey Cabrini fans did you see?   The Cavs actually got a top 25 vote.  Yes it was only 1(1 pollster voted Cavs #25).  That is a nice change from the last few years.  They still have a lot of work ahead of them...it is a long season.  But we'll take them as we can get them.  So as a fan we'll take at least 1 vote.  Hopefully the votes and certainly more wins will keep coming the Cavs way! 

...it was really to designed for Cavs fans who are getting "positive" recognition versus the last few years of negativity that as fans we've had to deal with. 

When you have had a tradition of success, (almost twenty five years) and over the last few years it has been a mess you get encouraged.    So when there is something positive I certainly would like to recognize the program for doing well.  Such as being 5-0, 1-0 in the CSAC AND getting 1 point in the poll.  Not everyone can say that. 

Regarding Keystone: you can't take anything away from them.  Until the end of the season and everybody has played everybody you really don't know how Keystone, Cabrini, Neumann, GMC or IU are as a team.  8)

[jabstep08]

I think that  the league is not at full strength as it was a couple of years ago..with that being said, its really a toss up with who will win the conference. cabrini being undefeated is good since its been down a couple years.

[CoachM33]

Any thoughts on the games tonight???  GMC @ Marywood, Centenary @ Keystone, BB @ Neumann

[mailsy]

Any thoughts on the games tonight???  GMC @ Marywood, Centenary @ Keystone, BB @ Neumann

GMC--- based on three things.  1.  Preseason favorite 2. Most of the team is back from last year and still solid  and 3. No offense to Marywood or their fans, they aren't proven enough.

Keystone--- three things. 1. I saw them at Cabrini and even in a loss they looked ok.  2. They are playing at home and  3. Centenary, though they are playing better this year (with the credit to the new coach) they really haven't beaten anybody.

Neumann--- 3 things.  1. Playing at home.  2. Two quality wins(York & IU) and three "quality" losses(Susq, Widener & E'town). 3. BB small team and Neumann will out rebound them.

This is what I think about tonight's games.  It is still early and I have only seen a couple of teams play.  This is no offense to anyone.  Most of my prognostication is just what I've followed so far this year. 

Anybody else?   

[mailsy]

What a great article on the front page about Cabrini in around the nation!!

http://www.d3hoops.com/nation/

That is awesome for Marcus Kahn and the players to get that national recognition! 

Keep up the good work!!! 

[mailsy]

Wow.  I admit I was wrong on my thoughts.     Neumann it seems has been having Jekyll & Hyde syndrome from game to game.  Baptist Bible just seemed to have their number tonight.  From what I saw from GMC tonight they were just much better than Marywood.     But 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

[IUuKno]

I in no way was trying to put down Cabrini or anything they have done this season so far.  Clearly they are an improved team as a whole an on the right track.  However that win against Keystone will become even more insignificant as they get blown out of the gym by every respectable team left in this conference (including Cabrini in their 2nd match up).  Lastly, as far as this conference being a toss up, that may be so, but there are only 4 teams included in that "toss up."  And take a wild guess who they are...

[mailsy]

Lastly, as far as this conference being a toss up, that may be so, but there are only 4 teams included in that "toss up."  And take a wild guess who they are...

From what I've seen so far--GMC is really the only one that you could guess.  They probably are number one.  Also you could say IU is in there, but they got beat by Neumann.  Than Neumann procedes to get beat by Baptist Bible.  You could put Cabrini in there as well.  So there you have it. 5 teams so far.  But by the third week of January when another 5 or so games are played we'll have a better idea of who is in the mix.   

[jabstep08]

Neumann seems to get out coached in some of the games that i have seen, but then again they will come up with a win versus a quality team like someone posted before, they just seem to be hot then cold. Baptist Bible played very well and shot the lights out of the ball.

[tonymnm]

I just want to compliment the Cyclones. I am an alumni and am able to get the games on the web. Although they lost they were winning again, and couldnt hang on in the second half. They are much improved over last year!!!  I know there 4-3, but this new coach has shown they will be competitive all year, and that never happened before!!! Lookout in the next few years CSAC their YOUNG!!!

[mailsy]

I just want to compliment the Cyclones. I am an alumni and am able to get the games on the web. Although they lost they were winning again, and couldnt hang on in the second half. They are much improved over last year!!!  I know there 4-3, but this new coach has shown they will be competitive all year, and that never happened before!!! Lookout in the next few years CSAC their YOUNG!!!

It never amazes me what a team that gets and keeps a good coach can happen.  What amazes me though is that some admins never understand that!!! 

[CoachM33]

I just want to compliment the Cyclones. I am an alumni and am able to get the games on the web. Although they lost they were winning again, and couldnt hang on in the second half. They are much improved over last year!!!  I know there 4-3, but this new coach has shown they will be competitive all year, and that never happened before!!! Lookout in the next few years CSAC their YOUNG!!!

I am def in favor of what Enrico is doing at Centenary.  With that said, I can remember a few times when Centenary started out strong, alot like they are doing now, and then finishing in the gutter.  I wouldn't say they are winning again and that they will be competitive all year until the season is mid-way.  I do feel they are taking the right steps.

It never amazes me what a team that gets and keeps a good coach can happen.  What amazes me though is that some admins never understand that!!! 
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I have to totally agree with you here mailsy, If a team has a good coach it is one thing.  There are plenty of good coaches out there, but when you are able to keep them because administration and the school supports them, then that is something else.  In those cases, schools and programs thrive.  Centenary's problem is that administration has never wanted that program to succeed.  Not since the 90's when the Zipfel was the AD and coach has that program made a noise.  Since then there has been no support from the adminstration and less from the town, Hopefully Enrico can turn that around, he seems to be doing a good job, and hopefully adminstration will see that and start to support a small college with alot of potential!

[mailsy]

CoachM33,

Which Zipfel are we talking about?

[CoachM33]

Pat Zipfel, who was at Centenary, Bucks Co. and I believe (not sure) assistant at the Citadel at one time, and recently last I know was hired by the Houston Rockets as an advanced scout...