MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

[Wolfpac]

Ok well Wolf I will agree with you on the Bush charge call it was a clear flop, however they played much better with him on the bench #11 should have gotten more min....but here is the thing when a team plays as agressive offensively the way gmc played, they are going to get the calls thats just how the game goes, you arent going to get many calls when the majority of your shots are coming from 19ft and beyond, cabrini had very few STRONG takes to the basket...

I would have loved to have seen GW take the ball to the basket more and get to the line especially when his shot wasnt falling early...aslo there was a long stretch in the 2nd half where GW didnt even touch the ball and guys were taking bad shot, then Cabrini calls a timeout, runs a play for him and he finds KM shaping up on a screen for an easy two...but then they sort of ignore him again untill KM fouls out....

One note about the "Wonder" twins...Smith did transfer from the patriot league, but for a yr and a half got less than walk on minutes and just didnt belong on that level...probably could have been a hell of a D2 player and is a great d3 player...Hogga on the other hand played significant minutes for St. peters as a freshman and really doesnt belong on this level...just making that distinction, but having said that neither of them should be paying for school...and who knows maybe they rnt 

Lastly I thought Baron made some good ajustments at halftime, GMC slowed down and dictated the pace the rest of the game, whereas in the first half it was just run and gun and they managed the game poorly in the last min and allowed Cabrini to take some momentum going on an 8-1 run (unoffical, just my count) in the final 60 seconds

IUuKuno-- thank you......that was a clear logical assessment.

Patriot it is obvious who the best team was and my thinking was not skewed thank you but rather I was blowing off steam.   IUuKuno you have it right with the way the game was called....the Cavs did not earn the line agreed and based on that fact it was a well officiated game.  Emotions tend to cloud the mind when you are spectating amongst diehard Cav fans and parents.  Patriot please if you were looking at it from my perspective you would see why my initial reaction was congruent with Mailsy.  That said GMC is better-no brainer.

Glad it is over to tell you the truth....I knew the outcome before it started but wanted to know how it would play out.   Well I guess it is called the rest of the CSAC has to catch up to GMC.............. Keystone is going to move on up quickly in my opinion.   With some of the old Pac teams not in the conference it actually benefits GMC even more than the other teams.   Hey all the teams had the same chance to get there despite their make-up.

Maybe head on out to see the Lady's this evening.... Have a good weekend all, no hard feelings just hope Marcus sticks around for a few years.

[Reserved Seat]

mailsy,
I think they sent your refs to the F&M and Muhlenberg game.  Sixty-one fouls were called, but numerous walking and carrying violations weren't called.  Two fragrant fouls on the Muhlenberg center weren't called even though he leveled two F&M players with vicious elbows to the head.
The best taunt of the night was, "Ref, it's a foul even if the jersey doesn't rip!"  Where do they get the refs?

[Wolfpac]

mailsy,
I think they sent your refs to the F&M and Muhlenberg game.  Sixty-one fouls were called, but numerous walking and carrying violations weren't called.  Two fragrant fouls the Muhlenberg center weren't called even he leveled two F&M players with vicious elbows to the head.
The best taunt of the night was, "Ref, it's a foul even if the jersey doesn't rip!"  Where do they get the refs.

Wow! I take that back Patriot...... maybe I was not blowing off steam the refs are pathetic. The officiating did suck for a playoff game in our conference.  Mailsy, Reserved Seat understands.  I know GMc was the better team and won but the refs impacted the game in a negative way.  The supervisor of officials was at the Dixon Center on Sat. and he was aware of the importance of a womens game with 2 teams that are rivals. He put the best men on the job and there were no complaints from either side despite someone lost. Neither coach had to argue a call.  Once I saw a the Cavs coach question a call but that was it and the game was not lopsided.   Then I saw the GMC coach yell once and get an explanation but that was it.  By the way, the same official was involved in both instances which seems par when there is a weak link in the crew.

If the refs call a good game it does not change the outcome and good teams overcome the refs but the quality of officials seems to be going down the tubes especially in a big game.  Sometimes I feel the zebra stripes want attention for themselves at a big moment.

[Coach K]

I was at the CSAC final, and I have to say, it wasn't the BEST officiated game, but it wasn't horrible. I think the contrast of styles between the two teams made it seem sort of choppy. Give GMC a lot of credit, they play a physical brand of basketball, with bigs that can impose their will in the post, or step out and shoot the 3. They are much better than their regional ranking shows, and they will pose some matchup problems for anyone they get in the tournament.

[IUuKno]

Tough draw for GMC, but nothing is out of reach with the talent they have... good luck to them

[larry_u]

Can someone post your NCAA team's profiles in here:

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=6299.0

[patriot1741]

wolfpac,

if you would like to take back your statement that cabrini was the better team, then i have no beef with you, my point was not to say that the refs were great or that you're complaints were illegetimate.  my only point was to say that gmc was and is BY FAR the best team in the csac this year.  can they be beat? yes.  were they beat? yes. are they the best team? yes.  is it close? no.

[Wolfpac]

wolfpac,

if you would like to take back your statement that cabrini was the better team, then i have no beef with you, my point was not to say that the refs were great or that you're complaints were illegetimate.  my only point was to say that gmc was and is BY FAR the best team in the csac this year.  can they be beat? yes.  were they beat? yes. are they the best team? yes.  is it close? no.

Patriot,  my fault... GMC is superior by far no argument my issue was with the refs.  I hope GMC goes far into the tourney.  My taking back was I was blowing off steam about the officiating but then I think from all the other comments I heard on and off the board my thinking was not out of line regarding the game calls.  No doubt GMC was the best team despite the refs.  I am just disgusted overall with the quality of the refs.  Maybe our conference deserves better officials.  (no beef with you )

[mailsy]

Congrats to Gwynedd in beating Amherst tonight!!!  They will have their hands full tomorrow against Stockton. 

[Pat Coleman]

Any readers here who are even thinking they might want to attend the Final Four should enter the City of Salem's contest: Free lodging, free tickets, admission to team banquet and VIP passes:

http://www.d3hoops.com/salemgiveaway/

[mailsy]

Congrats to Cabrini's Kevin Misevicius for second team All Mid Atlantic region.   8)

[Wolfpac]

Any good news out there for the CSAC in terms of recruiting talent?

How about the Cavs?   If anyone heres anything good please let me know since I do care it would be appreciated.

Are the Cavs getting any big men for the post?   Defining roles with the new coach will be a challenge but it will work out if they play his system.

[Wolfpac]

Hey you diehard Cav fans,  Cabrini has a pretty good lacrosse team and a CSAC chat board if you hoop fans are bored or want to let off some steam.

YOOO Mailsy..... where are you?

[CoachM33]

Any news on Centenary's newcomers?  It will be interesting to know who Enrico brings in after a successful year...

[Wolfpac]

Have not heard anything waiting for the summer leagues to heat up.  If anyone has any news about anyone please chime in to make things more informative and interesting.