MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

[Reserved Seat]

I checked the D3Hoops site for seating capacity.
These are the results  I found connected to the current regional rankings.
1. Albright 2000
2. Franklin & Marshall 3000
3. Lycoming 2300
4. Cabrini 1200
5. St. Mary's (Md.) 1200
6. Elizabethtown 2400
7. York (Pa.) 2000
8. Alvernia 1500
9. DeSales 1000

The play-offs are a financial endeavor for the NCAA so they want a site where they can make money and allow access to as many fans as possible.

[Wolfpac]

What's the seating capacity at Dixon Center?

Thank you Ronk and Reserved Seat.
The seating capacity at the Dixon Center is 1200 unless they pull down all seats it can be 1500 plus I am sure.

[gordonmann]

Could there possibly be a weaker team in another conference with a worse record than the Cavs who would have to come to the Dixon Center or is it automatic that the Cavs will travel the first round again "if" they win the conference?

Sure.  The Atlantic Region has two conferences without a ranked team - the Skyline and the CUNYAC.  The teams from both are located in and around NYC.  The NCAA has regularly sent a representative from those conferences to someone in the Mid-Atlantic region for the Thursday night game in a three-team pod (St. Joseph's @ DeSales in 2009, John Jay at Moravian in 2008).  That's a manageable drive and gives someone who wouldn't otherwise host a four-team pod the chance to host a tournament game.

Plus, you could get some teams with weaker resumes who win their conferences' AQs.

The play-offs are a financial endeavor for the NCAA so they want a site where they can make money and allow access to as many fans as possible.

My perception is that finance is definitely a factor in how the Division III tournament is run, but it's from an expenditure control perspective.  Because the NCAA pays a lot of the post season travel costs, they try to avoid overnight trips and use geographic proximity to design the bracket.  I've never explicitly asked someone involved with the tournament this, but I don't think they generate enough revenue to cover their costs, no matter how large the arena.

[Wolfpac]

G-mann,

Thank you for making sense of things.  This means there is still hope for our conference!   The Cavs are getting noticed finally and hoping it helps our conference do well regionally if they can get a championship and win a round.

[hIdeUmm]

If the MACS win tomorrow night at Neumann and Keystone loses to GMC does that mean the MACS are #2??? the only reason i ask is everytime kstone and IU are tied for the 2nd spot the past week+ kstone is ahead... The MACS beat them twice.

[mailsy]

If the MACS win tomorrow night at Neumann and Keystone loses to GMC does that mean the MACS are #2??? the only reason i ask is everytime kstone and IU are tied for the 2nd spot the past week+ kstone is ahead... The MACS beat them twice.

Yes,

The fact that they beat them twice gives them the edge.  Head to head is the first tiebreaker.  So if KC loses to GMC on Thursday and IU wins they are the #2 seed.  But be careful if they lose to NU they "could" fall all the way to "5th" before the end of the season. 

[hIdeUmm]

Yea this is definately a must win... The bye is very important because it could give the macs 4 days "off" and essentially play like a thursday saturday situation in the reg season but its weds friday... Alot at stake and the CSAC always seems to come down to an interesting final week

[mailsy]

From my understanding of playoff systems, this is a synopsis of the CSAC for the playoff seeds.

Two spots are locked up: Cabrini has locked up first place at 15-1; worst their record could be is 15-3 with losses to Neumann and Centenary.  Currently they are 7-1 against playoff teams. Centenary is locked in 6th no matter what they do on Thursday.

Keystone is 13-4, 5-6 with one game left at GMC.  With win or a loss by IU they lock up second. 
Immaculata is 12-5, 4-5 with one game left at NU. IU needs to win to lock up 3rd.  Will get second with a win and a loss by Keystone. Will get a home game no matter what happens (because of 2 wins against KC). (I know what I said earlier but when I looked at it more carefully I don't see them falling any further than 4th).
Neumann currently 4th is 11-5 with 2 games left (Cabrini and IU @ home). Currently they are 2-6 against playoff teams. If they win both, they are 13-5 overall and 4-6 against playoff teams.  The best they can finish is 3rd. Even with 2 losses they can finish 4th if GMC loses to KC or BBC. Could fall to 5th with two losses.
Gwynedd Mercy is currently 5th at 10-6, 4-5 with 2 games remaining (Both at home, Keystone and BBC).  Can get 4th with 2 wins and 2 Neumann losses.  With a loss they finish 5th because they lost the head to head against NU.

Hope this helps some lost CSAC soul who was wondering how the seeds would be for 2010. 

[Wolfpac]

Hey Mailsy, my soul feels much relieved.

Congratulations to Cory Lemons 6th in nation for turnover assist ratio!  Big stat if you know hoops.  He is also student athlete of the week.

Congratulations to Kevin Miscevious for scoring his 1000th Cabrini point and his 2000 yes 2000th point in his collegiate career....not bad for a kid who was cut and did not play high school ball.  

Robinson and Carter starting to get hot as well.  Team is feeling good I hear but they just have to take care of business in the playoffs.

See you tomorrow night for Senior Night vs Centenary at 7pm at the Dixon center since I have to work Saturday with my brother in-law doing siding.  Have to pay those bills and pay for gas to get to those playoff games!

[mailsy]

I want Cavs to get on a real roll into playoffs. They need to handle Centenary easily at home and beat Neumann on the road.  They've moved down in the regional rankings to fifth because of the conference.  I want them to win 4 more games to get to the NCAA's.  This team sometimes forgets that you have to play 40 minutes of basketball to win games.  They could have beaten Gwynedd by a lot more than the 7 they did win by.  They sometimes get lazy. They can't play this way if they want to win the conference.  They are the best team in the conference this year, but they have to play to their potential if they want to win the conference and the automatic bid.  If they lose in CSAC playoffs they will be sitting out the big dance. Hopefully Marcus can keep them level headed and on the right path. 

[Wolfpac]

Never fear,  Marcus is handling it well.   Neumann is hot!

[mailsy]

In the Landmark thread they're talking about preseason coaches polls.  I just thought I'd throw in the CSAC's coaches poll

2009-2010 CSAC Men's Basketball Totals

Institution  (First Place Votes)                     Points
Gwynedd-Mercy College  (9)                          99
Cabrini College                                            86
Keystone College                                         84
Marywood University                                     61
Centenary College                                        58
Immaculata University                                   46
Baptist Bible College                                     44
Neumann University                                      42
Rosemont College                                         15
Philadelphia Biblical University                         15

Website never states who got the other 1st place vote.   

Based on this preseason poll it was close.  Neumann "overachieved" (made the playoffs) and Marywood "underachieved"  and Baptist Bible was just bad this year.

So who gets coach, player and rookie of the year?  ROY: Cory Lemons,  POY and COY I'm not sure yet.

[Wolfpac]

Wow! Some final second wins.

Buzzer beater by Lemons for the Cavs at last seconds for the win!
Hogga wins it for GMC!   Mailsy better figure out these seeds now.

Cavs vs who on Weds.  and what if they beat NU?

Cavs had a perfect home floor season.

[mailsy]

Cabrini is still #1 and will host Wednesday 2/24/10.  Keystone lost, however, they are now the second seed (Immaculata lost at Neumann) and will also host a semi.  Neumann is guaranteed a home playoff game no matter what they do Saturday against Cabrini.  If they win they become the 3rd seed.  If they lose they are fourth.  Gwynedd I believe is now the 5th seed no matter what happens Saturday.  They will travel to either Neumann or Immaculata.

[mailsy]

If you are interested.  Here is the last second buzzer beater by Cabrini's Cory Lemons against Centenary on Thursday night.

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2009/12/08/buzzer-beater-watch.html