MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

[patriot1741]

so are those 4 games that gw played in going to be in jeopardy or is that unfounded and useless speculation?

[chairman]

C- Hizzle Dizzle

Reticent... usually used as to describe someone who is inclined to be silent or uncommunicative. On occasion it can be used to describe something that is understated and reserved. Let's use reluctant to believe or incredulous, but avoid words that connote silence or reservation-- they don't suit you :-)

When forced to do so, I prefer to consume the avian scavenger with Tabasco; others eat crow with relish. It's up to you.

[mailsy]

WOW!!!

I just got in a little while ago(what a day for me) and couldn't wait to get to D3hoops and check out the action of today.  What a tremendous win by Cabrini.   You could say it was an upset, but I had a good feeling about this game.    I'm glad to see that GW got to play today and scored 20.  I wish I could see a tape of that game.  That would be a fun one to watch. Congrats Cavs.

Also congratulations go out to the Cyclones, Mighty Macs and their fans as well.  Nice wins.

Boy there was a lot of activity on this board today.    Lot of speculation with no basis in facts.  Obviously by Glenn playing today his situation is corrected... as I believed it would.  I am glad to see that.  I'm glad to see someone else delivered.  8)

Let's see how the BATTLE OF EAGLE ROAD pans out on Monday and who wins the inaugural trophy.  I'm looking forward to it.

As always Mailsy   

[patriot1741]

neumann seems to be the team that is labeled 'jekyll and hyde', but i think you could make a pretty good case for baptist bible being the same way, if not more... beat keystone 76-72, lose to centenary at HOME 86-54, then turn around and beat gwynedd 91-89... whats goin on with those guys?

[Wolfpac]

neumann seems to be the team that is labeled 'jekyll and hyde', but i think you could make a pretty good case for baptist bible being the same way, if not more... beat keystone 76-72, lose to centenary at HOME 86-54, then turn around and beat gwynedd 91-89... whats goin on with those guys?

patriot, good point.  I think GMC was not in the mood and the officials were from a different time zone at that game.  GMC has dropped 3 road games. Neuman keeps every game close but seems to not play a whole game so during crunch time they bend and break or commit a stupid foul; could be discipline.    BB on the otherhand I have seen them play several times, they give it their all each night and are even keel with discipline.Seems like they play a simple physical game without flash and pull out their games with solid fundamentals.  BB and Cent seem to be just a couple of years away from great things.  Keystone is also a physical solid team.  Perhaps the athleticism of some of the more consistent teams is the reason why they stay in the top spots.  Coaching and discipline with character.  Without one of the ingredients teams play up and down.   Listening to the coach and having the extra character to take a chance and put it on the line for the team is not enough when you are out coached or lose your cool.   The conference may be weak nationally but you have to work hard and battle for every win consistently.   I see where you are coming from with BB but I think they are consistent compared to Neuman just that they are green to the conference.   Please, I am not saying you are wrong just my opinion.

A balanced, disciplined team full of character and respect is what everyone wants but it is easier said than done to build a team without hard, hard work.   It is how you play the game not the W or L which makes a team consistent not scores. At the end of the day the score is not the only thing that matters but most of the time the team that is fundamentally sound and disciplined gets the W...... making those foul shots, smart decisions, flying high at the right time, passing in the right lanes, no turnovers and controlling the ball.  We may have fooled alot of people who are big and tall or athletes who score 30pts a game and lead in all stat categories that they know how to play basketball, but....... a  whole team is what it takes to win consistently night in and night out.  Can only fool ya some of the time if you know what I mean.   (playing smart)

[patriot1741]

i think you make some really good points there, and neumann losing a couple of their starters for the bb game (idk about other games)... i know the previous conference that pbu, bbc and keystone came from was completely different - you really only had to show up for the top 5 teams in the conference and the rest were downright horrendous... i think part of the reason bb has dropped some games to teams below them in standings can be traced there, they also have had very good bigs the last 4-6 years and this year they are playing a much smaller lineup, so its probably taking some adjustments for coaches and players to adapt to a different style... after saturdays games, what are everyone's thoughts on the playoff picture?

[tonymnm]

           Well as far as the playoffs go, it should be interesting. The top 4 are ok, but not sure what order that will end up. Than you have 4 teams going for 2 spots. Right now BB has the upperhand at 6-6 for 1 spot with 3 games left a BIG ONE Monday at Centenary, than at Phil. Bible, and they finish at Keystone. If they beat Centenary and Phil there in, but of course I think MY CYCLONES WILL WIN THAT!!!!  Next and not because Im biased Centenaryat 5-6 has the best chance for the last spot, but they have to win at least 2 more if not 3. They have BB Monday, Cabrini at home, than they go to GMC, Marywood and finish at Phil Bible. They have to beat BB and Phil Bible , and hopefully pull an upset over one of the other three to be sure.

             IU is 5-6 but has 5 games left and 4 of them with the top of the league. They are at Marywood, Neuman, and GMC. They have 2 at home against Keystone and Cabrini. Neuman is 5-7 with 4 left. They are at GMC and Cabrini, and 2 at home against IU and Marywood. Anything can happen though as we have seen with GMC falling, so it should be a fun week or so!!!!
         

[mailsy]

My point in calling them Jekyll and Hyde is that I expected more from this team than they are showing at this point.  Baptist Bible did win their conference last year(even though it was even weaker than the CSAC) and they lost a lot from last year.  Not saying Neumann didn't, I just expected more from them and they have been more inconsistent than anybody else in the conference.  I guess I was disappointed in what they have brought to the table so far.

Here is something interesting I went back to www.CSACsports.org and looked at the preseason favorites.  Here is a list of what was expected in the preseason vs current standings:

Preseason                                                             Current
1. Gwynedd-Mercy College                                   1. Cabrini College
2. Immaculata University                                      2. Gwynedd-Mercy College
3. Neumann College                                             3. Marywood University
4. Cabrini College                                                4. Keystone College
5. Marywood University                                        5. Baptist Bible College
6. Baptist Bible College                                         6. Centenary College
7. Centenary College                                           7. Immaculata University
8. Keystone College                                            8. Neumann College
9. Philadelphia Biblical University                            9. Philadelphia Biblical University

The only one the coaches had right so far is PBU.  But we all know preseason polls don't matter it's the games you play.

Currently Cabrini holds first place, but I'm not sure if they will hold it.  They are 6-0 at home but 3-3 on the road. They have IU and Cent on the road and PBU and Neumann at home.  They could go 3-1 or even 2-2 and finish 2nd. (I don't like the road games). GMC is 5-0 at home with 3 games against NC, Cent. and IU.  They are 3-3 on the road with PBU (should be a win) and Keystone(5-0 at home) this game could be another road loss for GMC. They could finish 4-1 or even 3-2.  Only 1 loss might get them the one seed. Marywood is 5-1 at home they have IU and Cent, at home, on the road they are 3-4 with one game at Neumann.  I believe they finish 9-7 and 4th.  Keystone has three games at home. The Bibles and GMC and IU on the road.  They finish 10-6 and third.  BBC currently 5th has a big game with Centenary on Monday.  They are on the road the rest of the way.  @Cent, PBU and Keystone.  That Centenary game they need to win if they expect to make playoffs, if not they finish 7-9 and probably out.  Centenary holds the last playoff spot currently.  They are 4-2 at home and have BBC and Cabrini left.  They could get both.  But on the road they play at GMC, Marywood and PBU.  They could go 3-2 or 2-3.  Making playoffs with the former not so sure with the latter record.  Immaculata is 4-2 at home, they have Keystone and Cabrini at home.  They need both these games.  They travel to Marywood, Neumann and GMC. They are 1-4 away from Alumnae Hall. They need 1 of these games and the home games to finish 8-8.  That is going to be a tough challenge.  But they could do it.  Neumann is 2-4.  They host IU and Marywood.  They are 3-3 on the road, But they travel to GMC and Cabrini where both teams are undefeated.  I believe that Neumann will probably miss out on the playoffs this year.

So here is how I see it to make the playoffs.

GMC*
Cabrini*
Keystone
Marywood
Centenary
Immaculata

*Byes

[chizwiz]

Wolf,

I haven't done much talking with anyone about the trophy between Cab and EU.  Maybe someone else mentioned it.

EU is doing well this season.  We have several freshmen playing significant minutes, those being Colin Whipple, Tyrik Tucker, Martin Soaries, and Carlos Pujols.  All four have very different skills and are playing more mature than the average freshman.  Some great sophomores are Danny Miller and Don Kaiser.  And the seniority on the team is based around Jason Reels, Chris Myers, Ty Coleman, and Derek Wright.  EU has a fairly deep bench and will play some others intermittently.

I like the team and am looking forward to the matchups I see between Cabrini's top scorers (Misevicius sp? and G. Washington) and EU's defenders.  As always, it will be fun defensive game to watch and I think the pace will be exciting.

[chizwiz]

C- Hizzle Dizzle

Reticent... usually used as to describe someone who is inclined to be silent or uncommunicative. On occasion it can be used to describe something that is understated and reserved. Let's use reluctant to believe or incredulous, but avoid words that connote silence or reservation-- they don't suit you :-)

When forced to do so, I prefer to consume the avian scavenger with Tabasco; others eat crow with relish. It's up to you.

Chair,

I don't think we need to get personal here and I'm not sure why you seem to be so offended.  And you can eat your own crow, I'll do what the average Crusader does and eat a Trojan Turkey.

Do you feel more intelligent when you correct people's vocabulary mistakes?  Maybe this will make you feel better - you are smarter than me.

Now let's get back to more important issues.  Anybody from Cabrini want to talk about the defenders on the Cavs?  What kind of defense do they like to use?  What kind of offense do they like?

[mailsy]

Eastern has done very well this year(currently 3rd).  It would have been interesting to see Eastern in the CSAC this year and how well they would have done.  Oh well. 
I believe tomorow's game is going to be a great game as chizwiz says EU's Defense vs the Cavs offensive players should be something to watch.  Usually defense wins game. 

Cabrini scores at a 77.7 pace a game and gives up 70.9 a game.  At the Nerney Fieldhouse, though, they score at 80.9 and defend at 70.6.  Eastern scores at 67.6 pace per game and defends at 64.6.  Away from home they are 67.6 vs 66.7.  But, EU is 5-1 on the road in their last 6.  So this is going to be a fun game to watch.  8)

[chairman]

Chiz-
If I made a mistake, I will admit to it. I was simply offering a tongue in cheek opportunity for you to say "oops I might have said something that was inaccurate - and possible a little mean-- about a college kid. I apologize to Glenn and anyone else whom I might have offended."
It's a good skill.
On another note, it's also never a bad thing to hold your tongue until you are sure you have your facts straight. Just because someone told you something doesn't always mean it is the right thing to post it.
On the subject of basketball, I am glad that GW will play for the Cavs on Monday night. I think the game presents a bunch of interesting match-ups and match-up problems for both teams. I have not seen Cabrini play this year, but based on their people and their score against GMC, they have some guys who can light it up. I  think Eastern has three or four guys who are capable of putting up 20, but if the game goes into the 80's I think that is probably a bad sign. It is a very interesting game in that there is really not too much to look at in terms of common opponents. EU beat Immaculata and PBu, but those were both early in the year and I think those following the Eagles would agree that they are a very different team now than they were in December.
One more note. Derek Wright is a sophomore. The Eagles play two juniors and a senior in their ten man rotation. Myers and Reels start and Ty Coleman plays a good chunk in some games and limited minutes in others. He is having a real nice senior year in the role he plays. Other than those two it is all freshmen and sophomores. Miller has been down with an ankle issue and has not played in nearly a month-- not sure whether he will return soon or not.
Would have no way to offer a prediction on the game, but I hope that both communities get up for the game.
Until the conclusion of the BoER...

[Wolfpac]

Eastern has done very well this year(currently 3rd).  It would have been interesting to see Eastern in the CSAC this year and how well they would have done.  Oh well. 
I believe tomorow's game is going to be a great game as chizwiz says EU's Defense vs the Cavs offensive players should be something to watch.  Usually defense wins game. 

Cabrini scores at a 77.7 pace a game and gives up 70.9 a game.  At the Nerney Fieldhouse, though, they score at 80.9 and defend at 70.6.  Eastern scores at 67.6 pace per game and defends at 64.6.  Away from home they are 67.6 vs 66.7.  But, EU is 5-1 on the road in their last 6.  So this is going to be a fun game to watch.  8)

Wow! going to be a good game but I am predicting an offensive explosion for the Cavs.   Defense wins games but it depends on how well a team can play defense as well.  If the Cavs stay out of foul trouble they will somehow win, but EU could shut them down long enough to win.  Should be fun.  Hope everyone packs the house.

Chiz will you be wearing an EU shirt? 

[IUuKno]

chair: derek wright is a jr...and a very good hs coach in the SOL

Last comment about "glen-gate" I am glad it is resolved and he's getting the chance to play, however it's still a curious situation if it was an enrollment issue considering the last day to add/drop courses at cabrini was 1/21 and hes played in two games after that date.  Having said that the only thing that matters now is what happens on the court.

Big game for the MAC's tonight.  I have confidence that they will pull this one off on the road.  Let's just hope they shoot a high percentage like they did against BB.  Their downfall all season has been their inability to get points in the paint and get to the line. 

[tonymnm]

Well whats fair is fair. I will post when we lose too. My Cyclones lost in overtime to BB 84-81, it was a great game where both teams played hard, but we couldnt pull it off. Congrats to BB. Of course that will make it tough on the Cyclones to make the playoffs, but I HAVE FAITH GUYS YOUR PLAYING HARD!!!!!