MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

[chizwiz]

Chiz, not complaining about your court, just the seating is limited and parking is a pain in the butt if you do not have gate access.  I do think a small gym is kind of cozy and has advantages to the competition.  Just that the crowd is limited and a school of EU's size and campuses deserves a larger facility and more fan friendly atmosphere to pack more in ...... in no way am I criticizing your school just seems if EU can afford it they should do since the bb program is growing.

Thanks, I didn't think you were criticizing EU.  Although I see this venue as a place to do that in good humor.  And I agree with you - EU should build a better gym.  As I said earlier, probably a donor problem.

[hIdeUmm]

If Neumann loses tonight would it make it a 2 way race for 6th? is there anyway IU or Cent can get the 5th??

[Wolfpac]

Mailsy, waiting for a matrix from you, could you please answer Hidehumms last question as well.    Neuman plays at the Dixon Center Saturday and Cavs play the last game of the year at IU so the Cavs could have a big influence on the playoff scene for those guys.   

don't forget the Cavs are at Centenary tonight as well  .......

[hIdeUmm]

i know that it is numerically possible but I wanted opinions... The matrix would be great though.

[zonescantstopme]

big win for the cyclones!!!  over cabrini

[lefty2]

The matrix maker no longer resides in the CSAC.

[tonymnm]

Congrats to the Cyclones!!!!! They are back in it, and to Coach M and the boys keep it going your doing MUCH BETTER than anyone thought you would!!!!!!!!!!

[mailsy]

Here is a current look at the standings.

1 Gwynedd-Mercy   10    3   0.769
2 Cabrini                 9    4   0.692
3 Marywood            9    5   0.643
4 Keystone             8    5    0.615
5 Baptist Bible         7    7   0.500
6 Centenary            6   7   0.462
   Neumann             6    8   0.429
   Immaculata          5    8   0.385
   Philadelphia Bible   0   13   0.000


Games on 2/14/09:  Centenary @ GMC  --  GMC should win this.  Records:  GMC 11-3, Cent 6-8
                                 Neumann @ Cabrini --  Cavs should win this. Cabrini 10-4  NC 6-9
                                 Immaculata @ Keystone -- KC should win this. KC 9-5 IU 5-9
                                 BBC @ PBU -- BBC should win this. BBC 8-7 PBU 0-14. 
So there should be no change in the 6 - 8 spot and BBC will clinch a playoff spot based on above games

Games on 2/16/09: PBU @ Cabrini.  Cabrini 11-4 PBU 0-15.  GMC @ IU.  Will probably be GMC 12-3, IU 5-10.  Centenary @ Marywood.  Centenary needs this game.  If they(Cent) win IU is eliminated.

Games 2/17/09: Keystone @ BBC.  KC needs this game to clinch no less than 4th spot BBC 8-8 and the 5th seed.

Games 2/19/09:
GMC @ Keystone.  Maybe KC pulls this out. KC 11-5 (3rd Seed) GMC 12-4 (#1, I think, but I'm not sure of all tiebreakers)
Immaculata @ Cabrini -- Cavs 12-4(2 seed) IU 5-11
Marywood @ Neumann.  NC in this one NC 7-9, Marywood 10-6 (4th seed)
Centenary @ Philadelphia Bible--Cent wins 8-8(6th Seed), PBU 0-16.

So I see the season ending like this:

1 Gwynedd-Mercy   12    4   0.750
2 Cabrini                12    4   0.750
3 Keystone            11    5    0.688
4 Marywood           10    6   0.625
5 Baptist Bible         8    8   0.500
6 Centenary            8    8   0.500
   Neumann             7    9    0.438
   Immaculata          5    11   0.313
   Philadelphia Bible   0   13   0.000



Just one persons opinion on the end of the season. 

[tonymnm]

I like the ending mailsy, but who gets the last spot if Centenary and Neumann tie?

[CoachM33]

I want to know some opinions here....

Who do you think is playing their best basketball right now?  Can they continue the last 2 weeks of the season?  Will they sustain it long enough come conference tourney time? 

GMC, Cabrini, and Keystone 7-3 in their last 10.

Centenary and Marywood 6-4.

[Wolfpac]

I want to know some opinions here....

Who do you think is playing their best basketball right now?  Can they continue the last 2 weeks of the season?  Will they sustain it long enough come conference tourney time? 

GMC, Cabrini, and Keystone 7-3 in their last 10.

Centenary and Marywood 6-4.

Unbiased opinion....... I think the Cavs fold a little, Gmc holds #1,  Keystone surprises everyone but me and is in the final with Marywood taking out Cent.  Unless the Cavs prove me wrong, they may be out of gas for the playoffs.  IU may take the Cavs at IU and Keystone looks better even more.  IU could fool GMC then that last game vs Cabrini is huge.

Centenary if they can beat Gmc which will not be impossible but since it is at GMC they will lose....will have to win at Marywood so it will be difficult as long as they win one then PHilly Bible.    I think they will be in it.

IU will have a pretty tall order ahead of them and lose to Keystone and Centenary pulls ahead of them.  IU will probably be out of the mix unless Keystone tanks.

Neuman what can I say about them except....... choke choke choke but they could surprise the Cavs tomorrow and get some needed motivation so they are in it if Cent does not come up big. 

I predict only my opinion that it is a GMC/ Keystone final. 

[Wolfpac]

If anyone gets a chance, check out the article on "Around the Nation" on the D3 board by Gordanmann.  Nice one Gordan.

Oxley talks about all the changes in the last 4 years and how he made the decisions he made to play.  Check it out kind gives you a taste of all the changes the Cavs had to go through.

Give credit for where they are.  Back to work.

[chairman]

Both EU and Cab get bit by the hangover from Monday night. Not to take credit from Centenary or DelVal, but Eastern didn't come close to matching the intensity they played with on Monday. I can't imagine that Cabrini came close either.

[lefty2]

It's tough when geographical rivals are in different conferences.

[mailsy]

I like the ending mailsy, but who gets the last spot if Centenary and Neumann tie?

I don't know.  I have to spend time to do that and I don't have it.  But you can give it a shot.  Here are the guidelines from the CSAC website (maybe one of the SID from one of the schools could figure it out): 

B. In the event of ties for any position, the following procedures will be used in order to break a tie:
1. Head to head competition, among the tied teams.
2. Record against higher seeded teams evaluated individually starting with the highest seed.
a. If a three-way tie exists between teams; the best record versus each of the tied teams will determine the higher seed.
3. Result against a non-conference opponent—common opponent—common site.
4. Result against a non-conference opponent—common opponent.
5. If any ties for the one through five seeds exist and all the above criteria does not determine seeding, point differential, with a cap of 20 points between the tied teams, will determine the seed in question.
6. In the event that seeding of the one through five seeds cannot be determined by the above tiebreaking criteria, a coin flip shall occur.
D. If a tie still exists for the sixth seed after all the tie-breaking criteria above is exhausted, a playoff game must be held. The home team will be decided by a coin flip.
E. If a tie occurs with three or more teams, the tie breaking criteria listed above will be used to determine the highest seeded position first. After the highest seeded position is determined, the tie breaking criteria begins all over again for the next highest seeded position. This procedure continues until all positions are complete.

If anyone gets a chance, check out the article on "Around the Nation" on the D3 board by Gordanmann.  Nice one Gordan.

Oxley talks about all the changes in the last 4 years and how he made the decisions he made to play.  Check it out kind gives you a taste of all the changes the Cavs had to go through.

Give credit for where they are.  Back to work.

That was a really great article.  It gives a lot of insight in this young man.  Big time credit goes out from this Alum for his courage and tenacity.  Great job Ox.

Unbiased opinion....... I think the Cavs fold a little, Gmc holds #1,  Keystone surprises everyone but me and is in the final with Marywood taking out Cent.  Unless the Cavs prove me wrong, they may be out of gas for the playoffs.  IU may take the Cavs at IU and Keystone looks better even more.  IU could fool GMC then that last game vs Cabrini is huge.

Centenary if they can beat Gmc which will not be impossible but since it is at GMC they will lose....will have to win at Marywood so it will be difficult as long as they win one then PHilly Bible.    I think they will be in it.

IU will have a pretty tall order ahead of them and lose to Keystone and Centenary pulls ahead of them.  IU will probably be out of the mix unless Keystone tanks.

Neuman what can I say about them except....... choke choke choke but they could surprise the Cavs tomorrow and get some needed motivation so they are in it if Cent does not come up big. 

I predict only my opinion that it is a GMC/ Keystone final. 

Wolfie, 

I think it is a little premature to see who is going to be in the final at this point.  One game at Centenary does not make a season.  (Did you think Cabrini was going to beat GMC?  No...but they did). 

I won't be making any predictions about the outcome of the playoffs, until I see where the teams actually end up.  8)