MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

mailsy · January 01, 2010, 10:37:48 PM

Quote from: CoachM33 on January 01, 2010, 09:55:24 PM
Tony,
What's going on in hackettstown? I haven't caught any games yet this season, but should have some time to catch up on the cyclones. Why is Atkinson out? I was excited for this team before the season started with almost everyone but baker back, but it seems expectations of mine were too high. I know the non-conference schedule is more difficult, which i agree that it makes you battle tested, and it seems after tomorrows game vs the Red Hawks, we have a nice little homestand to turn things around, but what's the deal? How are the bigs that enrico brought in? I know there isn't much size, but is there any athleticism? I am just going on roster info at this point hopefully I will get to see them soon. Let me know whats going on...

Anybody any thoughts on Cabrini and Keystone?

Until GMC gets beat by Cabrini or Keystone, they are still the front runner in the conference. I think either team can give them a run. I have seen Cabrini play twice live and 2x on internet. But not Keystone at all. I think that Monday's game could be a big one for both teams. More so for Cabrini, because it's on the road. Cabrini is tough at home. I wouldn't be surprised if Keystone wins Monday, though. Cavs have some size this year and some shooters. This years newcomers have really added a lot to the teams early success.

Wolfpac · January 04, 2010, 08:54:46 PM

kEVIN MISC......... 45 pts there Mailsy.
Shot 16 from 16 from the free throw line. Cavs won the game on free throws.

LUnger looked good at crunch time for Keystone, was a closer game than score indicates.

Only 3 undefeated teams now. GMC/nm/cabrini........

Lots of fouls both teams had their chances... I believe Cavs shot 72% from line and Keystone 61% .......

Wolfpac · January 05, 2010, 02:10:55 PM

Hey Mailsy, the Cavs kept their turnovers pretty low as well. Waiting on the GMC game in Radnor. Hope to see you there in the stands.

NU is looking better this year as well.

mailsy · January 05, 2010, 02:35:48 PM

Definitely the goal is to be there. I can start driving again at the end of the week. So I am going to try and venture out that way. It is a little bit of a haul these days. So we will see. A really nice win for the Cavs. What a game by Kevin.

Lancaster Bible tomorrow. Then several days to get ready for GMC matchup. I think Cavs will win since it is at home. The ladies... I'm not so sure about. But we'll see. You never know though. Happy New Year to all.

mailsy · January 06, 2010, 02:18:46 PM

I saw the recent Massey ratings and looked at the conference as a whole. Here are the following for the teams:

Cabrini     786
Neumann     1149
Keystone 1165
Gwynedd-Mercy 1235
Immaculata 1236
Centenary 1283
Rosemont     1343
Marywood    1352
Baptist Bible     1464
Philadelphia Bible     1469

So this got to me to look at the conference and the team records as a whole. It's actually pretty bad.

Take the teams' records for example overall 39 W's 52 L's WP .429. Take Cabrini out and it's 31-51 .378. If you look at the OOC record it's 21-34 .382. Take Cabrini out at the record is 13-33 winning percentage of .283. This conference seems to always get a bad rap. But based on the records you can see why.

Now I certainly don't have the time to look at the each teams record that everybody has beaten and lost to. Cabrini's opponent record OOC is 26-25, just over .500. So the competition that the teams have played goes into these records. But until this league can consistently win out of conference it will continue to be at the lower end of D3.

That being said. Conference play starts up in full gear. Records will change. But out of conf. play will be minimalized for the rest of the season. So good luck.

Certainly feel free to add your CSAC teams Opponents records to agree or disagree.

Wolfpac · January 06, 2010, 05:41:31 PM

Hey Mailsy,

In the beginning of the year I thought much of the OOC schedule for CSAC was pretty weak. Many of the top 25 may not need to play our teams. I do not think the CSAC is like the PAC at all with the exit of Alvernia, EU etc.....

The CSAC is not in anyway close to being even a regional powerhouse. I hate to dwell on the past, but the truth is that since John Dzik is not part of things the conference as a whole took a big hit with his reputation for coaching victories against teams the Cavs had no business of beating. LVC and MMMA are not powerhouses.

Many out there do not care about my opinion of Dzik and dump it off as past history but if you look at all the variables he was one constant when the Cavs were ranked in the top 25 ......GMC is the closest to those days but still not close. Many youngsters do not understand what an ambassador Dzik was for the conference as a whole.

mailsy · January 06, 2010, 06:05:02 PM

Quote from: Wolfpac on January 06, 2010, 05:41:31 PM
Hey Mailsy,

In the beginning of the year I thought much of the OOC schedule for CSAC was pretty weak. Many of the top 25 may not need to play our teams. I do not think the CSAC is like the PAC at all with the exit of Alvernia, EU etc.....

The CSAC is not in anyway close to being even a regional powerhouse. I hate to dwell on the past, but the truth is that since John Dzik is not part of things the conference as a whole took a big hit with his reputation for coaching victories against teams the Cavs had no business of beating. LVC and MMMA are not powerhouses.

Many out there do not care about my opinion of Dzik and dump it off as past history but if you look at all the variables he was one constant when the Cavs were ranked in the top 25 ......GMC is the closest to those days but still not close. Many youngsters do not understand what an ambassador Dzik was for the conference as a whole.

Wolf. I agree with you. Dzik helped the conference. But he is no longer a part of the school and the conference. He has his own school and conference down south to deal with. So as a conference now what can they do? The powers that be are the ones who can make the schools and the conference better. I give credit to schools like GMC that go after a tough non conference schedule. Cabrini's really is kind of weak. But having PBU and schools that have just gone coed, makes this conference a weak sister. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong over the years. But more has to be done with the other schools. Not that I don't mind playing a little sisters of the poor. But how does that help, if you get to the NCAA's and get knocked out in the first round?

Wolfpac · January 06, 2010, 09:10:56 PM

Mailsy, Well said ! !

Did you check out the Cavs tonight? New big man on the floor. Things could get interesting. Believe he is 6'7 or so. Check it out ......

Oh yeah they beat up on another weak school for a non-conference game which is a prime example of padding records. Not to take anything away from the team or coach, just not the level of ooc competition I was used to seeing. As a matter of fact, the JV team played tougher schools from Jersey all the time.
Not playing Lincoln, Widener, Cheyney, Gloucester, Camden, Hopkins, I believe Liberty (d1) and Copppin State (d1) or even Millersville/Kutztown anymore.

Dzik took it to another level.

PS-- not comparing coaching. MK and staff are building a fine program which will take much time and hard work. They deserve all the credit in the world. If the wins at this level start to come easy and they win a round in the tourney with GMC since Alvernia is out it can only help the CSAC. (sisters of the poor don't count)

mailsy · January 06, 2010, 10:52:59 PM

Did not see the game. Did you go? 6'7"? Wow. Came from a D2 school East Stroudsburg. Looking forward to Monday to see how they compare to GMC.

mailsy · January 07, 2010, 05:49:13 PM

Wolf,

You should go to Cabrini's website. A pretty nice interview about Kevin Misc's record breaking night and his path to Cabrini on a 1060 pod cast.

http://www.cabriniathletics.com/news/2010/1/7/MBB_0107100844.aspx

mailsy · January 07, 2010, 07:40:31 PM

Gwynedd goes down again. This time to Elizabethtown. 74-68. What is up with this team this year? They are 1-6 outside of the conference. Any thoughts?

mailsy · January 10, 2010, 02:58:23 PM

Okay this is four in a row now. I must be all alone on this thread. Is anybody out there???

Starting tomorrow there are 5 conference games. Let the fun begin. All games are DH with the women. All games are at 8:00pm. Keystone at Neumann, GMC at Cabrini, Immaculata at PBU, Marywood at BBC and finally Rosemont at Centenary.

Will Rosemont beat Centenary again? I think Centenary will win this game since it is at home but there is something about this team. I don't know. I think Immaculata should have an easy time with PBU, 20+ margin of victory. Marywood at BBC. Both these teams are bad. But BBC because it's home. Keystone I think will take this over Neumann. Finally Cabrini over GMC. Handing GMC their 5th loss in a row. Just my thoughts. Maybe a CSAC fan or two will respond.

I hope to get to the Cabrini game. But still recovering. If I can get a ride I'll try and be there.

BRCE4 · January 10, 2010, 08:51:08 PM

In fairness to GMC they have played a very good OOC schedule. E-town is very good this year. I think the Cabrini game is tough to predict because Gwyned poses some tough match ups. Clearly the 2 best teams in the conference.

mailsy · January 11, 2010, 10:42:57 PM

Big win for Cabrini tonight 83-68. That's GMC's 5th loss in a row. Game was tied at the half and Cabrini ran away with it in the second half.

Thursday is another big game for Cabrini; hosting Keystone.

Had a chance to watch some of the other games. Centenary holds off Rosemont by 2. PBU loses by 20 at home to Immaculata. Marywood escapes with a win. BBC made it close hitting several big threes at the end. But they couldn't get a good shot off to tie it at the end. They lose by 3.

3 of the 5 games tonight in the CSAC were a basket difference. Cabrini game was close early in the second half. Only Immaculata having the easiest night. A lot of fun tonight.

Wolfpac · January 11, 2010, 10:57:28 PM

Wow! statement game for the Cavs. Hogga looked frustrated along with the other Griffins.

Dom F. worked hard, Cali rebounded strong, Gurloc down low all fed by the star of the game in my opinion------ Cory Lemons.

They could not stop Lemons and they doubled or tripled leaving an open shot or lane to the rim. Cavs could have scored 15 more if they pressed. Hard work and a nice win.