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IUuKno

ok wolf u bated me... cavs could have been up 30 or more against IU???  I dont know what game u were watching but IU made a nice run in the 2nd half and even had a short lived 1 point lead with under 8 min to go.  And your coach subbed 5 new guys in bc the starters werent getting it done.  And your cavs didnt expand their lead to double figures until under 3 to go.  IU defended "KM" very well and frustrated him all afternoon.  Lemon's stat line was a bit inflated bc of 8 free throws in the last minute.  Props to Farrello he stepped up hit some timely shots and was their glue all game long.  Im all bout giving credit where credit is due but lets not get carried away. 
  Moving on I would just like to say congrats to the MACS for bouncing back from 2 straight losses to win a close one at home against Nuemann.  Props to Siter and Boyd who have really strung together some solid performances in a row against the top of the league (GMC,Cabrini, Nuemann).  Future is bright for a MACS.

Wolfpac

Hey IUuKno,

Glad to see you are posting here! !

The Cavs had a terrible game at IU they could have and should buried the Macs but did not due to their own egos which is why the Macs looked good on defense.   The Cavs had them done with a knife in them and the refs were terrible even by your own fans as I heard in the crowd.  They tried to give the game to the Macs and the Cavs tried to lose the game.  The Cavs have alot of talent and athleticism which still has not surfaced, the coach has to restrain them but when he turns them loose they can score over 100 pts easy each night.

I understand your point of view though, the Macs did look like they held them in check and your #24 hit some key shots while our defense down low went on vacation in the last half.  It was a weird game.

Congratulations on defeating the Knights, sounds like one hell of a ride at the end.  I admit the Cavs may not have won by 30 pts but at least 20 if they had their heads in the game.  Again a big if.....

Please post more often, IU has a proud heritage and a good coach.  I do not count them out by any means or discredit their performance against the Cavs but I am just saying the Cavs were outplayed because of their own mishaps and laziness in the second half not a stellar defense by your team.  I would love to have the Cavs play the Macs for the conference title. Your team has class and alot of heart and will be a contender for sure not that they are not already.   I just think the Cavs have more to offer at the moment.

Talk to ya later---Wolf

Wolfpac

IuUkno--- or anybody in d3 hoop land...........

Linton, the gaurd on Neumann seems to come down the floor and get jammed up underneath after taking 2 steps then hops to the rim to throw the shot.

Seems like a bunny hop or travel every time down low.  The refs never call it so I guess if you can get away with all the time you take what they give ya!......but I want to know if this is allowed.  The player is 5"10 but when a 6'7 guy does this it is called a walk each time.

Is this 2 step and a hop allowed??  Is this a legal jump stop or what?  Could someone out there please help me understand. I see it in women's ball at the D1 level and is allowed but never in men's action. 

IUuKno

I know this dead horse is begging for mercy, but I must...To suggest that the refs got the MACS back in the game in the 2nd half is plain crazy the cavs attempted 32 free throws to the MACS 19, take away the 10 to 12 that the cavs shot in the last 2 minutes and its just about dead even...the MACS got back into that game the same way any team does they strung together a few stops and shot the lights out during that same time frame (6-13 from 3 in the 2nd half)...
And no i do not think the MACS played great team defense throughout the game, however they did play exceptional defense on the best scorer in the league.  He had to work hard for everything he got, and every shot had a hand in his face, a scorer like that doesnt go 3-13 without some tough defense...The MACS also did a nice job with their soft press after made buckets.  It frustrated the Cavs early on and def helped the MACS keep the game as close as they did.  The Cavs are without a doubt the heavy favorite this year although I would never count out GMC.  Final note about the game on saturday:  very tough atmosphere for both teams, as most 1pm Saturday games are, the gym was dead so Im sure that played a part in the game as well.

As to ur point on traveling...I'd have to see what ur talking about its tough for me to visualize it, however as u might know the more fluent and natural you make something look on the court the less likely a ref is to call it, thats just how it goes and the other side of that is the more awkward u make something look the more likely the ref is to call it. 

Wolfpac

OK IUuKno,

Lets meet in the middle because if I was not a Cavs fan then the next team I would cheer for and follow would be the Macs.

I do know with your VP of institutional advancement Theresa Grentz who I know well, your future is in good hands in building endowments etc.....to get more men into your school.  She loves watching the men play too as she has stated on more than one occasion.

If you know Kevin M.. the leagues leading scorer you would know he is in a funk not because of a box and 1 defense by IU but because he is in a slump and he can shoot the lights out even when face-gaurded.  I will give IU credit with playing an overall good defensive strategy by the coach yet a couple of the big men were yelling at each other as others noted at the game because they were not playing their position well.    This is America you know and you can think you are right and infact you maybe and it will all be exposed in the playoffs.  We just have to wait.    Thx for your response..... I hope IU is staying in the mix and would love to play you guys in the playoffs to see the better team in an objective way.

By the way.... the refs did not cause IU to get back into the game but rather they were calling things on the Cavs because the Cavs were lazy which may have to do with the start time so I agree you are correct about refs but the Cavs did not play near their A game.

mailsy

Quote from: mailsy on January 25, 2010, 10:57:30 PM
Cabrini at Eastern on Wednesday.  Who wins? .....  Now why?  :)

Well let's look at things.  Pros to Eastern:  They are home and there fans will be louder(smaller gym than Cavs and they'll sound a lot louder).  They lost last year, bigger incentive to win this year(they had the game last year in OT.  But GW hit that 3 pointer to send it into a 2OT.) They play in a tougher conference.  Massey has the MAC at 13/CSAC at 50.  They've played a tougher schedule, so far.  EU OWP .537 (T108) OOWP .500(T195) SOS .525 (117).  Cabrini on the other hand OWP .433 (T346) OOWP .462(T368) SOS .443 (T360). 

Cabrini pros:  They are 17-1.  Have beaten everybody to this point except USMMA. (Cavs lost at USMMA, EU lost to them at a neutral sight(edge to Cavs)).  They won it last year.  They want to keep the sign.  CC more talent this year than last year.  Can't say that for EU this year.

If I look at stats the edge should go to Eastern.  If EU keeps score the 60's they have a shot.  Believe Cavs will come out on top with score in mid to upper 70's for Cavs. 

I have to go with my heart, since I am a Cavs fan.  ;D
CC 77
EU 71
Cabrini Cavaliers 2012 National Runner-Up.
First official poster on the Atlantic East forum board.

Wolfpac

Quote from: mailsy on January 27, 2010, 01:17:15 PM
Quote from: mailsy on January 25, 2010, 10:57:30 PM
Cabrini at Eastern on Wednesday.  Who wins? .....  Now why?  :)

Well let's look at things.  Pros to Eastern:  They are home and there fans will be louder(smaller gym than Cavs and they'll sound a lot louder).  They lost last year, bigger incentive to win this year(they had the game last year in OT.  But GW hit that 3 pointer to send it into a 2OT.) They play in a tougher conference.  Massey has the MAC at 13/CSAC at 50.  They've played a tougher schedule, so far.  EU OWP .537 (T108) OOWP .500(T195) SOS .525 (117).  Cabrini on the other hand OWP .433 (T346) OOWP .462(T368) SOS .443 (T360). 

Cabrini pros:  They are 17-1.  Have beaten everybody to this point except USMMA. (Cavs lost at USMMA, EU lost to them at a neutral sight(edge to Cavs)).  They won it last year.  They want to keep the sign.  CC more talent this year than last year.  Can't say that for EU this year.

If I look at stats the edge should go to Eastern.  If EU keeps score the 60's they have a shot.  Believe Cavs will come out on top with score in mid to upper 70's for Cavs. 

I have to go with my heart, since I am a Cavs fan.  ;D
CC 77
EU 71

Hey Mailsy you forgot aobut those distorted speakers, no baseline cushion, and shaky rims.......

lefty2

Quote from: Wolfpac on January 27, 2010, 01:26:34 PM
Quote from: mailsy on January 27, 2010, 01:17:15 PM
Quote from: mailsy on January 25, 2010, 10:57:30 PM
Cabrini at Eastern on Wednesday.  Who wins? .....  Now why?  :)

Well let's look at things.  Pros to Eastern:  They are home and there fans will be louder(smaller gym than Cavs and they'll sound a lot louder).  They lost last year, bigger incentive to win this year(they had the game last year in OT.  But GW hit that 3 pointer to send it into a 2OT.) They play in a tougher conference.  Massey has the MAC at 13/CSAC at 50.  They've played a tougher schedule, so far.  EU OWP .537 (T108) OOWP .500(T195) SOS .525 (117).  Cabrini on the other hand OWP .433 (T346) OOWP .462(T368) SOS .443 (T360). 

Cabrini pros:  They are 17-1.  Have beaten everybody to this point except USMMA. (Cavs lost at USMMA, EU lost to them at a neutral sight(edge to Cavs)).  They won it last year.  They want to keep the sign.  CC more talent this year than last year.  Can't say that for EU this year.

If I look at stats the edge should go to Eastern.  If EU keeps score the 60's they have a shot.  Believe Cavs will come out on top with score in mid to upper 70's for Cavs. 

I have to go with my heart, since I am a Cavs fan.  ;D
CC 77
EU 71

Hey Mailsy you forgot aobut those distorted speakers, no baseline cushion, and shaky rims.......

Shaky rims?  Chairman, did they move this game to Manhattanville to accomodate a bigger crowd?
The person who says something can't be done shouldn't stand in the way of the one who's doing it.

mailsy

So how many OT this time?  Last year 2.  25 Years ago 6.  So somewhere in between this year?  ;)
Cabrini Cavaliers 2012 National Runner-Up.
First official poster on the Atlantic East forum board.

chairman

Rims are fine. Only two dunks by opposing teams this year, and they don't get hung on in practice, si they are tight enough. There is new padding on the walls. It is pretty tight, but there is enough space.

Props for a pretty close prediction. 77-71  is really what the game was. Cabrini hit some free throws late to get to 80-71. That's almost scary. Cabrini's SOS dropped again tonight as Lebanon Valley lost to FDU.... FDU's first win of the year.  Not cabrini's fault, sometimes that stuff just happens to you.

Wolfpac

Hey Mailsy,

You hit it on the head with the prediction.  Hoping to see Kevin M. score his 1000th next.   Since you have some time on your hands these days and you are so good at predictions maybe you could come up with some confernce predictions or a matrix of some sort to sort out the playoffs as the crunch time begins.   

mailsy

Hey Cavs/CSAC fans.  KYW 1060 interviews Marcus Kahn on a podcast.  Here is the link to the schools website where you can access the podcast:

http://www.cabriniathletics.com/news/2010/1/29/MBB_0129102104.aspx
Cabrini Cavaliers 2012 National Runner-Up.
First official poster on the Atlantic East forum board.

mailsy

Quote from: Wolfpac on January 28, 2010, 10:07:13 AM
Hey Mailsy,

You hit it on the head with the prediction.  Hoping to see Kevin M. score his 1000th next.   Since you have some time on your hands these days and you are so good at predictions maybe you could come up with some confernce predictions or a matrix of some sort to sort out the playoffs as the crunch time begins.   

Thank you.  I almost scared myself with that prediction so I bought a Powerball ticket...but only got 2 numbers :(.   Regarding KM he needs 76 points.  If he averages 38 points a game he could do it at home on the 1st.  If he gets 25.334 a game he could get it at Rosemont, but with his avg he could possibly get it at Neumann on Saturday the 6th.  Maybe I'll go to either Rosemont or NU.  We will see.  I'll at least be able to watch all the games on the web.  Now NU now has a video link for games.  However, picture is to yellow and the sound is not that great.  But we will deal with it.  Becasue now you can watch the game if you can't get to the gym.

Regarding the matrix.  I'll leave that up to a SID at one of the schools. 

I'll discuss playoffs later.  But it seems the top six teams now, are the teams that will make the playoffs.
Cabrini Cavaliers 2012 National Runner-Up.
First official poster on the Atlantic East forum board.

Wolfpac

Centenary is a trap game, remember what happened at their place last year?
Predictions for this game Mailsy??

Only 2 hrs away if you are hiking up there.  I think if the Cavs win this game it is a big step in grabbing a home game in playoffs since they will have 2 tough games on the road against Neumann and GMC  who they have already beaten at home.  If the Cavs go into those games up in the win column already we could be enjoying things at the Dixon Center.

The team must stay focused though.

mailsy

Quote from: Wolfpac on January 29, 2010, 01:18:56 PM
Centenary is a trap game, remember what happened at their place last year?
Predictions for this game Mailsy??

Only 2 hrs away if you are hiking up there.  I think if the Cavs win this game it is a big step in grabbing a home game in playoffs since they will have 2 tough games on the road against Neumann and GMC  who they have already beaten at home.  If the Cavs go into those games up in the win column already we could be enjoying things at the Dixon Center.

The team must stay focused though.

I agree this is a trap game.  I know MK will continue to remind them and not let their record go to their heads.  But remember these are young men with substantial egos, so who knows.  If they play with in themselves and the team concept, I believe they will win.  I'll be watching from home.  The game is 86 minutes away.  Still too much driving.
Cabrini Cavaliers 2012 National Runner-Up.
First official poster on the Atlantic East forum board.