MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

mailsy · February 23, 2011, 04:54:13 PM

Thanks d-mac!!

Wolfpac · February 23, 2011, 07:16:08 PM

Hey Dave, without causing you too much trouble....where does the SOS for the CSAC as a whole rank from top to bottom? Or if easier where do the 3-4-5 teams in the regional rankings stack up across the nation in terms of quality wins? Is this an indication of the strength of the conference or an indicator of scheduling which is out of the control of a coach sometimes?

mailsy · February 24, 2011, 08:36:55 PM

ReadinG some of the other boards, there is talk of both teams making it to the dance. I would just like to see the Cavs win and have no doubt about it. Conference champiionships are what it's all about. It will be a tough battle. Cavs will win because it's home. I see another close game until the final minutes. GMC will come to play. They are 1-0 against Cabrini in conference finals. Hard to believe this is only the second time they have faced each other in a final. 2009 Gwynedd beat Cavs to win the conference. It will be a battle and hopefully the student body will come out and support the team. No excuse about classes. Get to the game and then you can go home for the weekend or do what college students do on Friday nights. (They usually don't get started until after 9:00pm anyway

) Game starts at 7:00pm. I will be in my usual spot!!!

GO CAVS!!!

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 25, 2011, 05:38:00 AM

Quote from: Wolfpac on February 23, 2011, 07:16:08 PM
Hey Dave, without causing you too much trouble....where does the SOS for the CSAC as a whole rank from top to bottom? Or if easier where do the 3-4-5 teams in the regional rankings stack up across the nation in terms of quality wins? Is this an indication of the strength of the conference or an indicator of scheduling which is out of the control of a coach sometimes?

The NCAA provides SOS data for each region... so at the bottom of the regional rankings on D3hoops.com and NCAA.com you will find a PDF link for each region.

Here is the latest link from the Mid-Atlantic: http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/exec/pdf/staticpdfrank?doWhat=publicrankings&sportCode=MBB&region=15&division=3

Wolfpac · February 25, 2011, 08:43:12 AM

Appreciate it Dave, busy time of year thanks again.

ronk · February 25, 2011, 09:44:08 AM

Quote from: Wolfpac on February 23, 2011, 07:16:08 PM
Hey Dave, without causing you too much trouble....where does the SOS for the CSAC as a whole rank from top to bottom? Or if easier where do the 3-4-5 teams in the regional rankings stack up across the nation in terms of quality wins? Is this an indication of the strength of the conference or an indicator of scheduling which is out of the control of a coach sometimes?

I'd be surprised if it would be out of his control.

Wolfpac · February 25, 2011, 10:00:12 AM

Quote from: ronk on February 25, 2011, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: Wolfpac on February 23, 2011, 07:16:08 PM
Hey Dave, without causing you too much trouble....where does the SOS for the CSAC as a whole rank from top to bottom? Or if easier where do the 3-4-5 teams in the regional rankings stack up across the nation in terms of quality wins? Is this an indication of the strength of the conference or an indicator of scheduling which is out of the control of a coach sometimes?

I'd be surprised if it would be out of his control.

Where ya coming from Ronk?

Wolfpac · February 25, 2011, 10:00:44 AM

In what aspect Ronk?

ronk · February 25, 2011, 10:30:39 AM

Coming from the position of a long-time college bball observer; maybe u could mention some of those times scheduling would be out of a coach's control.

Wolfpac · February 25, 2011, 12:13:10 PM

I was under the impression the administration chose the conference and mission affiliation and with economic concerns for traveling budgets the AD and assistant AD scheduled the games out of conference based on open dates, and financial concerns rather than a coach simply wanting to play a certain team. Tournaments I understand you need to sign up for them but I was under the impression the admn has to be involved in scheduling when facilities are jammed up etc....and overide the coach's decision. I know a coach may want to play a certain conference to build competition however with these variables it does not happen sometimes. Please correct me if I am totally wrong.

Pat Coleman · February 25, 2011, 12:28:47 PM

I don't think there's any hard and fast rule over who handles scheduling and it varies on a school-by-school basis.

ronk · February 25, 2011, 04:41:25 PM

I'm just talking about the nonconference scheduling within parameters of financial and time constraints, of course. I would think the CSAC schools can have their choice of 40 opponents within 2 hours and also which tournaments they volunteer for so that the coach can choose how weak or strong his schedule should be. As the primary tenant of the gym, I see only limited competition for dates from volleyball or wrestling.

Wolfpac · February 26, 2011, 12:12:10 AM

Thank you Pat and Ronk, so basically depends on school. Interesting. If a region is historically weak or strong it could play into the hands of an opponent in the post-season even though a coach may have wanted a tougher schedule. Thinking of the high level of play in the ODAC.......it seems that region is strong but hard to schedule games with those teams until the post season arrives. Only my opinion, but wouldn't a coach want to play one of the ODAC teams if they are perennials in the tourney to raise their play? So for whatever reason it cannot be scheduled I would consider it out of the coaches control at one school, but at another school because of the mere fact they play a game against an ODAC school it would seem in the coach's hands.

Wolfpac · February 26, 2011, 12:15:45 AM

Cory Lemons MVP playoffs.
Cabrini Cavaliers CSAC champions 2011 --guided by Marcus Kahn.
Thank you for a great regular season.

Waiting for the selections, and congratulations to GMC for a good season as well, perhaps the Griffins will still get into the dance. John Hogga you are a great player hope you get another game in the tourney. You are a class act.

mailsy · February 26, 2011, 01:19:05 AM

Quote from: Wolfpac on February 26, 2011, 12:15:45 AM
Cory Lemons MVP playoffs.
Cabrini Cavaliers CSAC champions 2011 --guided by Marcus Kahn.
Thank you for a great regular season.

Waiting for the selections, and congratulations to GMC for a good season as well, perhaps the Griffins will still get into the dance. John Hogga you are a great player hope you get another game in the tourney. You are a class act.

I will add my sentiments as well. Game was close early. GMC's biggest lead was 6 at 15-9. Then Cabrini just dominated from that point on. Gwynedd was never in it. Hopefully Gwynedd will get that chance to get in the dance. If not good luck to them in the ECAC.

Congrats to Marcus and the coaches and all the players. They worked extremely hard to get this championship. Just one more step in the journey. Looking forward to see where they play next week. If it is close enough, I'll certainly take the drive.