MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

WolfPAC · December 07, 2006, 09:29:41 PM

Heatlee,

You hit the nail on the head! ! ! ! ! !

Hard to care about Cabrini basketball these days and DZIK would never get embarrassed like that in any game against any opponent.

DZIK outcoached many of superior talented teams and pulled off miracles.

For everyone else who does not understand DZIK's impact on an individual or a team.... you missed out already.

Heatlee.... I am with you! ! I don't really give a bleep about Cabrini basketball they suck and it is truly ashame. Everyone else can give me all kinds of excuses for the new coaching staff or rationalize. The bottom line is without DZIK & Kelly there is no Cabrini basketball.

Cabrini sucks! ! If I really cared I would not say that... however I am being polite with my choice of words believe me ! Feel sorry for the institution.

John DZIK forever.

Cabrini basketball is gone like I said yesterday and I really don't care. If you don't think I mean it and wish to rationalize with semantics, trust me I will not post again. Heatlee: you are correct: It would NEVER happen with DZIK.

Part-time coaches; give me a break calling this crap DIII NCAA what a joke!

At least the other institutions in the PAC are committed with a couple of exceptions.

Ask me if I care.... I don't. If you kick me off the board its your choice but voicing one's truth is why this board still exists I hope.

WolfPAC · December 07, 2006, 09:35:30 PM

Sorry,

Jon you are devoted to what you do as well for Alvernia. Seems like Cabrini is missing leadership and people like you in order to succeed.

How can those poor kids learn without a real coach! ! Those kids play their butts off but have no strategy or tempo without a leader.
Knowing how to put up points is not winning.

Jon you are an asset to your institution. Oh and even the SID at Cabrini who was professional as they come--- I think Bob Mccartney blew out of there as well.

Cannot believe how the administration shredded a legendary basketball program ! !

Jon · December 08, 2006, 09:28:08 AM

WolfPAC,

No need to apologize...judging by what continues on some of the other regional rooms, I'd say you are far from getting yourself kicked off the board.

Thanks for the compliment in the midst of a tirade...we're just trying to have fun doing our jobs here. As I explained to a group of middle school students yesterday, I get paid to watch games!

Coach K · December 08, 2006, 10:09:56 AM

Wow! I stay away for a day or so, and everyone in here is fired up!!

What is on the PAC slate besides Alvernia and Wesley this weekend?

Jon · December 08, 2006, 12:05:15 PM

Looks like Wesley @ The Vern is the only conference game this weekend. Neumann is at the Messiah Tournament Friday and Saturday, Arcadia is hosting Del Val, and Cabrini is at Widener.

I would say the place to be Saturday is courtside at the PEC for the rematch of last year's Championship Final. As always, if you can't make it to Reading, feel free to follow the action on the net.

http://athletics.alvernia.edu/live/mbball/

D3fan14 · December 08, 2006, 12:41:34 PM

Why would you be kicked off of the chat? For saying a team sucks? Big deal.

The irony of the situation is that you spouted off about how embarrasing Cabrini basketball is, in a most embarassing manner. You embarrased yourself, with your improper use of the english language on multiple occasions, and your inability to communicate who you are upset with, and who you feel sorry for. "I feel sorry for the institution" ?? Wasn't it the institution that let Dzik go?

I am out of the PAC chat room. I am not fired up or upset, I just think that it is sad that WolfPAC and Heatlee can't add anything to the conversation but their frustration about the situation that happened with Cabrini and Dzik.

As a last question, I ask the room again, "Are there any players that could be recognized on a national level?" Does the PAC have anyone fun to watch no matter what team you are fighting for? Only one was mentioned.

Pat Coleman · December 08, 2006, 01:39:31 PM

WolfPAC, all I'd ask is that you use the quote function or somehow better say what's your post and what's heatlee's.

WolfPAC · December 08, 2006, 07:27:32 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 08, 2006, 01:39:31 PM
WolfPAC, all I'd ask is that you use the quote function or somehow better say what's your post and what's heatlee's.

Will be sure to do so. Thx for you tolerance

WolfPAC · December 08, 2006, 07:31:06 PM

Quote from: D3fan14 on December 08, 2006, 12:41:34 PM
Why would you be kicked off of the chat? For saying a team sucks? Big deal.

The irony of the situation is that you spouted off about how embarrasing Cabrini basketball is, in a most embarassing manner. You embarrased yourself, with your improper use of the english language on multiple occasions, and your inability to communicate who you are upset with, and who you feel sorry for. "I feel sorry for the institution" ?? Wasn't it the institution that let Dzik go?
I am out of the PAC chat room. I am not fired up or upset, I just think that it is sad that WolfPAC and Heatlee can't add anything to the conversation but their frustration about the situation that happened with Cabrini and Dzik.

As a last question, I ask the room again, "Are there any players that could be recognized on a national level?" Does the PAC have anyone fun to watch no matter what team you are fighting for? Only one was mentioned.

Talk to me when you know the meaning of institutional neglect. You are correct in context however. I should have said a few members of the elite status of the institution let Dzik go and I feel sorry for the student athletes who are the real Cabrini College.

heatlee · December 08, 2006, 09:58:39 PM

I am sorry if anyone didn't understand my point. Not only would a John Dzik team not blow a 31 point lead, but almost any team would not blow a 31 point lead.

As I said before I can care less if they win or lose. I do not root against them, and I feel sorry for the present coach because he is not in a good situation because of who he followed.

The PAC may be a more competitive conference, within the conference. Outside the conference they are 12-23, with five of those wins coming against Penn State-Hazleton, Penn State-Delaware, Penn State-Berks, and Lancaster Bible. While their wins against teams with winning record are over DeSales, who is 5-2, Rutgers-Camden 4-2, with wins against Albany Pharmacy and Valley Forge Christian, and Baldwin-Wallace whose opponent's winning percentage is .238.

The league is a far cry from 2003-2004 season when Gwynedd-Mercy went to the sweet sixteen.

Coach K · December 09, 2006, 09:28:12 AM

Baldwin-Wallace was #5 or 6 in the country when Alvernia defeated them, so they must have a decent amount of talent. Point taken though with all of the PSU campuses the teams are playing. Are the PSU teams all officially D-3 this year (can they send teams to the NCAA out of their conference.) I know Berks and Behrend compete in different conferences. Is it still a transition year? Are they considered to be Mid-Atlantic region teams? Just curious.

Jon · December 09, 2006, 11:40:34 AM

Coach K,

Baldwin-Wallace was ranked #6 when it played Alvernia. The Yellow Jackets do have talent this year, but to date I would say that was the Crusaders' best effort of the year.

The NCAA website (http://www.ncaa.org) offers a number of sortable databases that should answer any of your Penn State alignment questions. Behrend is listed in the Great Lakes. Both Berks and Altoona are listed in the Middle Atlantic.

d3fan14,

Please don't leave us in here alone with these Crazy Cavs. If I have to read one more post about what a Dzik-lead team would or wouldn't have done, I'm gonna rip my eyes out.

Gotta go...Wolverines are comin' http://athletics.alvernia.edu/live/mbball/

Jon · December 09, 2006, 08:51:36 PM

@ Alvernia 80, Wesley 65

Terrence Shawell scored a career-high 31 to leave the Crusaders. WolfPAC, if the Crusaders continue to put in that kind of team effort, it's not going to be a happy new year for you.

What's the word on the rest of the PAC action today. I'm assuming Neumann was able to handle Penn College at Messiah, Arcadia drops a close one at home to Del Val., and Widener by 15 over Cabrini.

Coach K · December 10, 2006, 11:35:26 AM

Wow, impressive effort by the Crusaders. Looks like they are in the driver seat for now at least.

Is Del Val that much improved? They were good for like 4-5 wins a season, seems like they are getting better!

WolfPAC · December 10, 2006, 05:50:14 PM

Quote from: Jon on December 09, 2006, 08:51:36 PM
@ Alvernia 80, Wesley 65

Terrence Shawell scored a career-high 31 to leave the Crusaders. WolfPAC, if the Crusaders continue to put in that kind of team effort, it's not going to be a happy new year for you.

What's the word on the rest of the PAC action today. I'm assuming Neumann was able to handle Penn College at Messiah, Arcadia drops a close one at home to Del Val., and Widener by 15 over Cabrini.

Jon, I admit Alvernia is playing team basketball. Alvernia's program is one to admire with hard work and continuity. The team serves the PAC well. Wishful thinking if one thinks Cabrini will get to the PAC finals in this decade.

If Alvernia keeps it up, I will have to start getting up to a few of their games. Especially vs. Cabrini.