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chizwiz

It's looking like Alvernia is one of the stronger teams this year in the PAC.

I still haven't gotten an answer to my question about why people think the PAC is a strong conference this year.  I don't see many good wins and too many bad losses (besides Alvernia/BW).

I'm starting to think it might be a down year for the PAC.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

chizwiz

D3fan14, I'm going to get to your question about nationally-recognizable players in the PAC tomorrow.

Who did Cabrini bring in this year as a transfer or a recruit who can play at least 5 quality minutes/game?  People are defending Macciocca, but this is his second year and I want to know how well he is recruiting.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

chizwiz

I said that there would be "more on this later" regarding the physicality of the Neumann team.  As always, Neumann seems to have some of the better athletes on the court, which leads me to wonder why they have problems winning an athletic-friendly league such as the PAC.  However, it seems that they can get a little rough sometimes with the EU players.  (Being an EU fan admittedly, I like to see teams get a little rough with us because I don't think EU generally plays with heart and aggression.)

The game on Wednesday, however, got a little out of hand.  EU Coach Nadelhoffer was getting the guys huddled during a timeout and a Neumann player (to be unnamed) bumped into Coach N and then shoved him while on his way back to his own huddle.  It seemed that this was unsolicited, as the coach didn't seem to be trying to do the same or talking to him.  Well, that unnerved Coach N, who then looked pretty angry.  I think he yelled at him and pushed him away.

While I don't want to make generalizations about this player or the NC institution, it seems like this player was acting with very little sportmanship, and definitely no respect for the coach.  I hope this kind of thing doesn't happen again, as I imagine the EU players might take it a little more personally.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

Jon

chizwiz,

Athleticism will only get you so far.  Take the Memphis outfit for instance...probably the most athletic team everywhere it goes, but that doesn't always translate into wins.

WolfPAC,

Still plenty of good seats available for most Alvernia games.  The Albright game usually attracts the largest crowd of the year, but if you let us know you're coming we'll be sure to save you a seat.  The Cabrini game used to attract a pretty big crowd when they had that other coach...if only I could remember his name  ;)

chizwiz

Quote from: Jon on December 10, 2006, 08:56:07 PM
chizwiz,

Athleticism will only get you so far.  Take the Memphis outfit for instance...probably the most athletic team everywhere it goes, but that doesn't always translate into wins.


I can agree with that.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

PacMan20

There are many issues for the decline with Cabrini.

1) Coach Maccoica (I dont know if I spelled that Right) just does not seem to know basketball.  On this year's team Randy Reid is clearly their best player, so how does he only get 4 shot attempts against Widener.  Unfortunately, coach M just doesnt seem to have the basketball knowledge of how to adjust during a game in order to get his best player going. 

During the Misercordia game it was almost embarrasing to see how bad he was outcoached.  There was one point in which there was 8 straight possesions with a turnover and then finally a timeout was called.  So finally a timeout is called and what does the team run: absolutely no offensive set.  They run a weave on the wing with 2 freshman and a junior and end up taking a horrible shot. 

2) Coaching Ignorance
Look at the players that have left the team within the past year.  2nd team All-pac Jim McMahon decided to forgo his senior year and declare himself eligible for the business world.  Former Pac rookie of the year Jeff Dailey was removed from the team because he had doubts about returning to Cabrini.  When he called the coach to try and set up a meeting, the coaches response was Jeff had already made his decision to leave and he hung the phone up on his best returning player.  Dominique Barron an athletic swingman who would be a junior also decided he had enough.  Finally Colin Fitzgerald, who started 14 games for Coach Dzik as a freshman at the point guard position was removed from the team last year because he supposedly was not committed to the program. 

So there you have it, 4 players recruited by Dzik who would have been in top 7 rotation along with Reid, CLifton and McClelland.  So how can you really feel sorry for this arrogant coach?  I feel bad for the older players who are stuck wasting their eligibility under a coach who clearly has no idea. 

chizwiz

Quote from: D3fan14 on December 08, 2006, 12:41:34 PM
Why would you be kicked off of the chat? For saying a team sucks? Big deal.

The irony of the situation is that you spouted off about how embarrasing Cabrini basketball is, in a most embarassing manner. You embarrased yourself, with your improper use of the english language on multiple occasions, and your inability to communicate who you are upset with, and who you feel sorry for. "I feel sorry for the institution" ?? Wasn't it the institution that let Dzik go?

I am out of the PAC chat room. I am not fired up or upset, I just think that it is sad that WolfPAC and Heatlee can't add anything to the conversation but their frustration about the situation that happened with Cabrini and Dzik.

As a  last question, I ask the room again, "Are there any players that could be recognized on a national level?" Does the PAC have anyone fun to watch no matter what team you are fighting for?  Only one was mentioned.


D3fan14,

Here are some players that are headlining in the conference or better:

Rashawn Johnson - Wesley - Sophomore - combo guard - lots of points, good reb, but high TO (to be expected of Sophomore).  Definitely All-Region, questionable All-American (this year), though.  Will be fun to watch for remainder of career.

Randy Reid - Cabrini - Junior - Points & Rebounds are great - plays the 5 spot - big guy.  Won't make All-Region IMHO, and that fact that he is playing for a bottom-dweller team is not going to help him.

DJ Fritz - Neumann - Junior - good player - not nationally-recognizable, though.

Jason Reels - Eastern - Freshman - can play the 2-4 - good numbers and minutes - my somewhat biased opinion of this great kid is that he will be 1st Team All-Region as a Sophomore - possibly all-conf this year - if he progresses, could be all-american as jr/sr, as long as Eastern does better in win/loss record.  Go watch this kid, in the middle of January.  He will surprise.

Chris DelBrocco - Gwynedd - Sr Guard - solid all around - not perfect, but usually outplays his man on both sides.  All-conf - not really all-region.

Garrett Etzel - Alvernia - Sr - good all-conference.

Mike Johnson - Eastern - Junior - can play the 3 or 4 - huge matchup problem - handles ball very well for 6'5 and can post up anybody in the conference as well as defend any 3-5 in conference.  Shoots three and jumpers.  Nearly averaging triple-double right now, with significant steals and blocks.  Definitely 1st team all-conf - should be all-region.  Will need to dominate more as well as more EU wins/playoff games to get looks as all-american as a senior.

Just for fun, watch Lenny DiMaria - senior combo - EU - can play pt, 2, or combo - good defender, shoots extremely well.  Leader.  Will get all-conf this year, probably 2nd team.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

chizwiz

d3fan14,

What's a fun team any night?  Nothing really comes to mind.  Maybe Wesley or GMC.  I would like to say EU, but they can lay an egg against crappy teams every once in a while.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

WolfPAC

Quote from: PacMan20 on December 11, 2006, 11:22:10 AM
There are many issues for the decline with Cabrini.

1) Coach Maccoica (I dont know if I spelled that Right) just does not seem to know basketball.  On this year's team Randy Reid is clearly their best player, so how does he only get 4 shot attempts against Widener.  Unfortunately, coach M just doesnt seem to have the basketball knowledge of how to adjust during a game in order to get his best player going. 

During the Misercordia game it was almost embarrasing to see how bad he was outcoached.  There was one point in which there was 8 straight possesions with a turnover and then finally a timeout was called.  So finally a timeout is called and what does the team run: absolutely no offensive set.  They run a weave on the wing with 2 freshman and a junior and end up taking a horrible shot. 

2) Coaching Ignorance
Look at the players that have left the team within the past year.  2nd team All-pac Jim McMahon decided to forgo his senior year and declare himself eligible for the business world.  Former Pac rookie of the year Jeff Dailey was removed from the team because he had doubts about returning to Cabrini.  When he called the coach to try and set up a meeting, the coaches response was Jeff had already made his decision to leave and he hung the phone up on his best returning player.  Dominique Barron an athletic swingman who would be a junior also decided he had enough.  Finally Colin Fitzgerald, who started 14 games for Coach Dzik as a freshman at the point guard position was removed from the team last year because he supposedly was not committed to the program. 

So there you have it, 4 players recruited by Dzik who would have been in top 7 rotation along with Reid, CLifton and McClelland.  So how can you really feel sorry for this arrogant coach?  I feel bad for the older players who are stuck wasting their eligibility under a coach who clearly has no idea. 


Wow!  Someone has finally admitted MAChucka is not the coach for Cabrini.  As I said before, the whole team wearing the same color sneakers does not make them a team ! !

This is truly the end of Cavaliers basketball.   Maybe if the new coach knew a little bit... those other guys would still be here as well.  Again, if I have to hear how he is a new coach and it is only his first year I will puke.

Obviously, parking buses at Wake Forest and assisting at Kings Point is not even close to what it takes to build a program like Dzik.  What a joke ! 

A real wanna be.... especially when the introduction of the coach on the Cabrini website claims Cabrini has the chance to win a national championship!   What a loser.. never recruited by Dzik either as a player because he was nothing.   The Cavs coaching staff is a farse.


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WolfPAC

MAChucka has no clue.   Just read the website under staff...  Dzik did not need all that fluff.

Again.. parking buses at Wake Forest & assisting at MMacademy does not make you a PAC coach close to Dzik.

Randy Reid, Clifton the only ones left keep battling at least.  How do you let a team with all the talent last year disband because of your ego?

GO ALVERNIA---- the basketball program at Cabrini is shredded.  First year coach give him a break makes me sick.  Just look at the women's program at Cabrini.    That's funny,  John Dzik hired Bobbi Morgan.

Wake up AD before it is too late!  I know you are not paying a big salary for this product.   

PACman20---- I can see the writing on the wall.

WolfPAC

  Exclude Saleem Brown from the sinking coaching staff at Cabrini.  It is not his fault.   

Go Crusaders! !

WolfPAC


Institutional neglect at its best ! !

Power struggles & selfish people without heart at Cabrini ! !

The rest of the PAC however seems more positive.  The parity is making for anyone to win on any night if the right circumstances occur.

Neumann will destroy Cabrini ! ! 
Come on MACHucka-- get those guys in the weight room ! !


Jon

Whoa WolfPAC...taking us to page 21 all by yourself there?

Quote from: chizwiz on December 11, 2006, 02:15:14 PM
What's a fun team any night?  Nothing really comes to mind.  Maybe Wesley or GMC.  I would like to say EU, but they can lay an egg against crappy teams every once in a while.

If fun is the adjective I'd add a few more teams to the lineup, namely Neumann and Alvernia...and feel free to say EU, any team can lay an egg, it's the nature of D3 basketball.

Nice work on the player list, chizwiz, I'm looking forward to seeing if all the EU players fit their descriptions.  Just "good all-conference" for Garrett Etzel...he's gonna be so bummed.  I would say its more like streaky shooter (but then again, aren't they all) with great range, often outsized, rarely outworked, never intimidated.

Then I would add a few more Vern names to your Who To Watch list.

Terrence Shawell - So. forward - (12/11 - PAC Player of the Week) again with the shooter thing, athletic, long reach, great rebounder seems to float off the floor while gravity affects others around him.

Matt King - Fr. forwad - similar to your Mike Johnson description.  Torched Baldwin-Wallace for 24...points seem to add up quicker for him than most others.

Tyrone Bradley - So. center - you need to watch him for more than just one single game to appreciate the work and hustle...he's currently on pace to finish the season with more rebounds than points (that's a compliment!).

You can take my word for it on these players or come out and see the Crusaders in person either at Albright this Saturday or home versus Franklin & Marshall next Tuesday.

WolfPAC, now that you have defected from the Darkside, there's always a seat for you in the PEC.  Come early and grab some noon-time hoops action, Coach Berger is always looking for his next big challenge.

Coach K

Quote from: PacMan20 on December 11, 2006, 11:22:10 AM
Former Pac rookie of the year Jeff Dailey was removed from the team because he had doubts about returning to Cabrini.  When he called the coach to try and set up a meeting, the coaches response was Jeff had already made his decision to leave and he hung the phone up on his best returning player. 


If what I read is true about Jeff Dailey, shame on the Cabrini College staff and the institution for letting that happen. Not only is Jeff a talented player, but also a great person that any program would be happy to have! He worked his butt off in HS, and to get PAC rookie of the year says something about his talent. I hope that he continues to play basketball somewhere, though I haven't heard where he is at. Is he still at Cabrini as a student? Maybe he was too much of a Dzik style player :P

PacMan20

Coach K

Unfortunately, that story is completely true. I would reveal my source(s), but unfortunately I dont want to throw names around on a chat board.  Jeff attended a community college by his house in the fall and it set to attend East Stroudsburg in the spring.  As far as basketball, I'm not sure what his plans are for ES