MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

[Coach K]

Something for all coaches to remember!



"The more you lose, the more positive you have to become. When you're winning, you can ride players harder because their self-esteem is high. If you are losing and you try to be tough, you're asking for dissension." -- Rick Pitino

Sorry, I inserted the wrong quote before!!

[allstar scout]

Coach K:

Not sure where the original quote was made but I saw it on a website I get quotes from to use when I am coaching, speaking at camps and practices.

Here is the site though!


http://coachlikeapro.tripod.com/basketball/id4.html

[East Coast Eagle]

Long time, First time. Long time D3 hoops visitor, first time poster. Yes, I am a "Eastern guy" so I will get that out to begin with.

First off, Coach Nadelhoffer would never go to Cabrini. If he wanted to coach at Cabrini he would have applied for the job when Dzik left. He never did. I assume he would have got the job due to his head coaching experience over their current coach. But you never know.

Cabrini's situation is very distubring to me. Last year Cabrini did not make the playoffs for one the first times in school history. A first year coach coming into that situation; I can say that is understandable. So you give the guy a break and hope he can turn it around. Then this year; you look for guys like Jim Mcmahon, Jeff Dailey, Dominique Barron, Colin Fitzgerald and wonder where they are? All transferred or did not come back to the team because of the head coach (this is true, verified with several reliable sources). Still, you give the coach a chance to win with what he has. What he has is a 1-8 record and on pace for the worst and most dissapointing season in school history. Can you imagine a lineup of Fitzgerald (good enough to play for Gwynedd and John Baron if it wasn't for his grades), Dailey (All-Pac player, not sure where he ended up), Barron (now a division II player), Mcmahon (All-Pac player who decided not to return for his senior season), along with Randy Reid (could be first team All-league this year). Still; Clifton and McClelland coming off the bench and/or starting. That would be one of the top 7 man rotations in the whole Mid-Atlantic Region in my opinion.

Something is wrong at Cabrini and I wont pretend to know everything about the situation. But anytime you have all those players leave because of the head coach; something isn't right. It sure as hell looks like a coaching change is in the forcast. I do know one thing; the Eastern people are sure glad Dzik is gone. The Eagles have taken over Eagle road. I say keep the Cabrini coach; better for us. One less team competing for the playoffs in March.

I am just trying to be honest with my opinions, not trying to disrespect any one team, player, coach, program, or school.

[WolfPAC]

Long time, First time. Long time D3 hoops visitor, first time poster. Yes, I am a "Eastern guy" so I will get that out to begin with.

First off, Coach Nadelhoffer would never go to Cabrini. If he wanted to coach at Cabrini he would have applied for the job when Dzik left. He never did. I assume he would have got the job due to his head coaching experience over their current coach. But you never know.

Cabrini's situation is very distubring to me. Last year Cabrini did not make the playoffs for one the first times in school history. A first year coach coming into that situation; I can say that is understandable. So you give the guy a break and hope he can turn it around. Then this year; you look for guys like Jim Mcmahon, Jeff Dailey, Dominique Barron, Colin Fitzgerald and wonder where they are? All transferred or did not come back to the team because of the head coach (this is true, verified with several reliable sources). Still, you give the coach a chance to win with what he has. What he has is a 1-8 record and on pace for the worst and most dissapointing season in school history. Can you imagine a lineup of Fitzgerald (good enough to play for Gwynedd and John Baron if it wasn't for his grades), Dailey (All-Pac player, not sure where he ended up), Barron (now a division II player), Mcmahon (All-Pac player who decided not to return for his senior season), along with Randy Reid (could be first team All-league this year). Still; Clifton and McClelland coming off the bench and/or starting. That would be one of the top 7 man rotations in the whole Mid-Atlantic Region in my opinion.

Something is wrong at Cabrini and I wont pretend to know everything about the situation. But anytime you have all those players leave because of the head coach; something isn't right. It sure as hell looks like a coaching change is in the forcast. I do know one thing; the Eastern people are sure glad Dzik is gone. The Eagles have taken over Eagle road. I say keep the Cabrini coach; better for us. One less team competing for the playoffs in March.

I am just trying to be honest with my opinions, not trying to disrespect any one team, player, coach, program, or school.

I can see exactly where you are coming from ! !    The coach will not last very long.  It is obvious something is not right there.  The program has gone down the tubes with Machucka.    Eastern is the King of Eagle road for sure.

[allstar scout]

The winds of change are blowing!

Cabrini has talent in fact as much as any team in the PAC, the problem is as I earlier posted a Rick Petinno quote. The quote is exactly what has happened at Cabrini and the team has lost the confidence
after their Ohio trip and 2 top 25 games.

As much as I hate to say it a change is nescesary before the team quits!

I hope the admin, athletic department and Alum are reading this bail out the program, save the sinking ship!!!!!

As a Cabrini guy, I am sick over the whole mess!


By the way John Baron's boys looked bad should have been blown out except Rowans coach sat his starters for almost 8 minutes of the second half.

[heatlee]

I first must correct my statement about part-time coaches as a reason why Cabrini is not doing as well as they could.  I still believe that it is harder to win as a part-time coach because you are unable to dedicate as much time
as you can to winning.  However, the Kean coach in the NJAC is a part-time coach and they are now 8-1.

You are correct a change might be in order, but it shouldn't be done until after the season when the coach can properly be evaluated.  Maybe he can turn it around, and maybe not.  But to be fair he must be allowed to finish the season.

In case anyone wants to bring this up later on, Dzik was 483-223 for a .684 winning percentage.  As of today in the post-Dzik era they are soon to be, after they lose to Scranton, 12-23 for a .342 winning percentage.

I am not knocking anyone just stating the facts.

[East Coast Eagle]

I would think a lot of coaches in the league are part time. Coach Nadelhoffer is one of them, along with Dorney, Baron, Macciocca, and Chadwin. I know of these five coaches for a fact. I would guess the majority of them are part time. It is easier to win being full time; but the fact of the matter is; if the majority of the coaches are part time, they are on a even playing field and no excuses should be made.

[East Coast Eagle]

I would like to get some opinions on recruiting. I would think Eastern should struggle to recruit due to their lack of a facility, strict religious views, and high tuition. Cabrini is similiary but their fieldhouse is one of the finest in the league, and it's also a very liberal Catholic insitution. Cabrini should struggle due to tuition which I think is higher than Easterns. I feel Eastern does a pretty good job recruiting for what they have. I know some other school are in similiar situations, but I think Eastern would struggle and Immaculata only because their program is in the beginning stages. Gwynedd usually does pretty well recruiting along with Arcadia and Alvernia. Neumann is among the least expensive with attacts guys with financial situations.

Any thoughts?

As I said in an earlier post, Coach Nadelhoffer was NOT a potential candidate for the Cabrini job two years ago. Some of the candidates that were not selected included the top assistant coach for Virginia Wesleyan (after he did not get the job at Cabrini, VW went on to win the national championship last year). Also, a former Ursinus coach who led them to the final four. The remaining were local high school coaches in the area who were most likely not fit for the job. You have to think the current coach was the most logical at the coming from a top DIII  program and DI before that.

[WolfPAC]

Cabrini is a prime example of institutional neglect!

Their staff (not the coaches) is not committed to winning.  The administration at the top down does not really care about athletics which is why Dzik was pushed out.  The budget and endowment at Cabrini is focused on academic growth as it should be in DIII and to hell with their athletic program which is only a part of their plan for growth.  The president thought Cabrini won state titles and did not even know the PAC was a D3 conference for sake!  Read the keep JOHNDZIK website and you will see for yourself.    Why do your think the JV team is gone.

The campus and athletics are politically correct but no heart and soul left in the athletic goals of the college.  The resources are just not in place from the top down to build a program with class unless they get lucky and the president leaves the college.

OH.... the top cabinet will take the credit for the facilities on campus actucally built as a result of DZIK and the alumni - including the strong lacrosse program and turf.

Guess the lacrosse program will get chopped soon enough.....

Whether the teams win or lose is not important now until the pocket book of Cabrini is hurt with dwindling enrollment.  Times have changed at Cavalier country which is why the alumnae has dropped them like a hot potatoe.  The results are just beginning to be felt now.

The women got fortunate to get a good coach while Dzik was still in charge

The college can brag about the President's Cup though because of the hard work of athletes and coaches who bust their chops only to be rewarded by a naive administration who take credit.   

As Dzik said the last time I spoke with him.." Thank God for lacrosse" 

Seems like the PAC titles at Cabrini are a thing of the past except for lacrosse or tennis. Guess the focus is on women now.  The college does love it though when the individuals win at track and field.

Nuemann has all the recruiting packages & Alvernia now with the target market gone at Cabrini.  Imagine the president of the college blaming the AD hired by Dzik.   John actually stepped aside to save her job yet the president of the college says in her letters and responses that the athletic department did feel Dzik was NOT in line with the program! !
It is also known John was told to go to a Division 2 school if he wanted to win so bad! 

What garbage...Dzik told me personally how the whole league is moving forward while Cabrini falls behind in recruiting.    Sad to see what I thought was going to happen.... the athletes will start leaving for better athletic opportunities for their career and the programs will become nothing but glorified intramural teams.

THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING

[WolfPAC]

Hope that sheds some light on the recruiting situation at Cabrini for basketball.

The rest of the PAC is surely gaining with the saturated local area for D3

Have a good day!

Go Alvernia & Eastern!

[chizwiz]

First, I can't wait to see the Vern beat Albright today.

Second, can we please get off the bashing of Cabrini for their choice of a coach?  It's really getting old.  Really.

East Coast Eagle, your views on the recruiting situation are a little off.

[chizwiz]

Alvernia beats Albright by 8.  Alvernia is definitely a better team, would probably win 4 of 5 against them.  The PAC beats the MAC!

[chizwiz]

Long time, First time. Long time D3 hoops visitor, first time poster. Yes, I am a "Eastern guy" so I will get that out to begin with.

First off, Coach Nadelhoffer would never go to Cabrini. If he wanted to coach at Cabrini he would have applied for the job when Dzik left. He never did. I assume he would have got the job due to his head coaching experience over their current coach. But you never know.

Cabrini's situation is very distubring to me. Last year Cabrini did not make the playoffs for one the first times in school history. A first year coach coming into that situation; I can say that is understandable. So you give the guy a break and hope he can turn it around. Then this year; you look for guys like Jim Mcmahon, Jeff Dailey, Dominique Barron, Colin Fitzgerald and wonder where they are? All transferred or did not come back to the team because of the head coach (this is true, verified with several reliable sources). Still, you give the coach a chance to win with what he has. What he has is a 1-8 record and on pace for the worst and most dissapointing season in school history. Can you imagine a lineup of Fitzgerald (good enough to play for Gwynedd and John Baron if it wasn't for his grades), Dailey (All-Pac player, not sure where he ended up), Barron (now a division II player), Mcmahon (All-Pac player who decided not to return for his senior season), along with Randy Reid (could be first team All-league this year). Still; Clifton and McClelland coming off the bench and/or starting. That would be one of the top 7 man rotations in the whole Mid-Atlantic Region in my opinion.

Something is wrong at Cabrini and I wont pretend to know everything about the situation. But anytime you have all those players leave because of the head coach; something isn't right. It sure as hell looks like a coaching change is in the forcast. I do know one thing; the Eastern people are sure glad Dzik is gone. The Eagles have taken over Eagle road. I say keep the Cabrini coach; better for us. One less team competing for the playoffs in March.

I am just trying to be honest with my opinions, not trying to disrespect any one team, player, coach, program, or school.

East Coast,

First, EU isn't glad Dzik is gone at all.  He was a great coach and we enjoyed playing against him.  Competitors always welcome competition and EU was just beginning to even the odds with their strong recruiting and improved coaching.

Second, Cabrini with McMahon, Fitzgerald, and Dailey back wouldn't even be the best in the conference.

Who are you and where do you come from?  You obviously don't know that much about talent as these guys would not change the game so much to make them a "top 7 man rotation in the whole mid-atlantic".  Give me a break.

[chizwiz]

I would think a lot of coaches in the league are part time. Coach Nadelhoffer is one of them, along with Dorney, Baron, Macciocca, and Chadwin. I know of these five coaches for a fact. I would guess the majority of them are part time. It is easier to win being full time; but the fact of the matter is; if the majority of the coaches are part time, they are on a even playing field and no excuses should be made.

Again, East Boast, you have your facts wrong.  The EU coach is not part-time.  So, where is your "fact"?

[WolfPAC]

Anyone who knows Alvernia's squad would have told you they would have won today.

Jon,  how close was the game if it was close.   Why did Alvernia win?