MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

[chizwiz]

MAC v. PAC ... does it really matter? I hope, for certain posters, this isn't one of those "mine's-bigger-than-yours" infantile contests. Life's too short for such nonsense.

Warren, I hope you didn't get to your d3 posting status by being so negative and insulting to everybody.

This issue is just a simple comparison between two conferences in the same region and with many instances of comparison each year.  And yes, it does matter, at least on this board, where we are not solving world peace or the question of life.

What would YOU like us to discuss, Oh Mighty One?

[Coach K]

Wasn't at the game, but a 72-58 victory for the Crusaders against F&M tonight. Good win for them against a storied program. Was anyone at the game? Jon, recap up yet?

PAC vs. MAC, does it matter. Well, why does everyone compare the ACC to the Big East, or the Big 10 to the Big 12. Does it really matter, probably not. But it does give us something to discuss, and I think any conference should have a bit of pride when teams from it do well in post season and nonconference play. It will be interesting to see how things shape up with the new Landmark conference forming next year and the MAC losing a few teams. Will the new conference be associated with the mid-atlantic region?

[chizwiz]

Chiz,

Kudos on the effort.  I had a stinky suspicion that research would show a less than stellar result against the MAC season to date.  Anyone feel like running a little more research on remaining schedule against the MAC?  I wonder if we can get back to .500.  Alvernia had just one MAC school on the schedule and the Crusaders contributed with a win over Albright.  That leads me to believe there is a less than slim chance that we have seven of more MAC games left.

Alvernia / F&M live on the web starting at 7:30 tonight.
http://athletics.alvernia.edu/live/mbball/

Jon,

Here's what the PAC has left vs the MAC this season:

Tonight:  Alvernia beats F&M 72-58
Dec 22: Miseri @ Kings
23: Miseri v Wilkes
Jan 3: EU @ Widener
4: Del Val @ EU
Marywood @ Wilkes
5: Immac @ DeSales
8: GMC @ Del Val

So, current record against MAC is 4-10.  With 7 games left.  The PAC can even it up.  I'll even go so far as making a few predictions (with my EU bias being obvious):

Miseri over Kings and loses to Wilkes
EU over Widener and Del Val
Marywood loses to Wilkes
Immac over DeSales
GMC over Del Val

If my predictions are true, with the current record added in, the MAC-PAC record this year will be 12-9 MAC.  Just conjecture, you see.

[chizwiz]

News from the Rumor Mill:

1.  Cabrini players are meeting together to talk about their problems with Macciocca (w/o him being present) - mutiny?
2.  Leslie Danehy (Cabrini AD) is presenting the dirt on Macciocca to her superior(s) to mull over the idea of getting a new coach mid-stream.
3.  Macciocca may be filing his W-4 in 2007 with one source of income - as a men's clothing salesman.

News that I don't consider a rumor (I have a trustworthy sources):

1.  An asst. coach at Cabrini (to remain anonymous presently) has called Dailey and Fitzgerald, asking them if they would return to play next semester if Macciocca is gone.
2.  There is much unrest amongst the current Cabrini players regarding Macciocca.

Where there's smoke . . .

[chizwiz]

Coach K,

Don't take this as 100% gospel, but I think the Landmark conference will be considered part of the mid-atlantic region.

[Jon]

Chizwiz,

Take F&M out of the MAC conversation.  The Diplomats belong to the Centennial Conference.

The recap for tonight's F&M / Alvernia game is available at Crusaders.com (http://athletics.alvernia.edu) complete with box score and play-by-play.  F&M won the battle of the boards, 41-26, including 19 offensive boards with stretches of three and four straight offensive attempts.  The Dips had a 1-0 lead, and that was their last.  The score was tied at 28-all late first and Alvernia led by at least five for most of the second half.

By now you should know what you're going to see from the Dips.  They didn't shoot well from the outside (2-for-18 from the arc), which didn't do anything to open up their inside game, although you wouldn't know that from the rebounding numbers.  Outerbridge had an off game (0-for-9) which was helpful and F&M also shot 54 percent from the free throw line (14-for-26).

It was a fairly electirc atmosphere at the PEC, considering the winter break just started.  There were a number of local groups filling the stands for a game that will be aired on tape delay by SPORTSfever on Christmas Day.

[chizwiz]

Thanks, Jon.  I think I was working too quickly and didn't check it, plus I get some of the teams in this area confused regarding conferences sometimes.

[allstar scout]

Chiz:

Be careful what you say on this board.

I have heard nothing about what you posted regarding Dailey and Fitzgerald.

I do believe they would want dailey back not Fitzgerald.

If there is something going on then it should remain inside the Cabrini House until there is a decision, or if there is something going on.

Let things play out if something is going to happen. And I never said I spoke to Ben but he told people, just want the record straight.

[East Coast Eagle]

Chiz,

You seem to know an awful lot about what is going on at Cabrini to be an Eastern guy?? Aren't we suppose to be on the same side?

[Pat Coleman]

Coach K,

Don't take this as 100% gospel, but I think the Landmark conference will be considered part of the mid-atlantic region.

I would put it in the Atlantic, FWIW.

[Coach K]

Is there a certain rhyme or reason to how the NCAA establishes regions?

Anyone know the PAC record vs. the Centennial Conference while we are on the PAC vs. MAC thing?

[Coach K]

Answered some of my own questions with other conference matchups

Centennial 1-3

Alvernia 72 F and M 58
Swarthmore 75, Arcadia 66
Gettysburg 77, Wesley 67
Johns Hopkins 71, Immaculata 58

CAC 0-2

Catholic 85, Neumann 73
Marymount 69, Immaculata 61

NEAC 1-2
Cabrini 79, Penn State Berks 63
Baptist Bible 55, Misericordia 52
Baptist Bible 60, Marywood 53
Arcadia 49, Penn State Berks 45

Combined 7-17 nonleague, going off what I know from the PAC site, of mid atlantic region games.

The Rest
Rowan 92, Gwynedd-Mercy 76
Rowan 72, Cabrini 50
Neumann 113, Penn 61
Richard Stockton 68, Neumann 65
York (NY) 64, Wesley 54
Peidmont 95, Wesley 89 (OT)
Marywood 98, Davis 56
George Fox 63, Alvernia 56
Cal Lutheran 71, Alvernia 67
Eastern 87, Lancaster Bible 78
New Jersey City 91, Gwynedd-Mercy 76
Emory & Henry 129, Cabrini 112
Gwynedd-Mercy 80, Emmanuel 77
Neumann 68, Adrian 62
Rensselear 57, Arcadia 55
Alvernia 71, Baldwin Wallace 62
McMurry 75, Immaculata 61
Franklin 94, Eastern 71
Richard Stockton 85, Wesley 72
Misericordia 69, Penn State Hazelton 59
Wooster 128, Cabrini 71
Stevens Institute of Technology 59, Arcadia 54
Alvernia 74, Rutgers Camden 55
Whitworth 95, Eastern 67

8-16 vs. the rest

Lots of close games on the list, but also a ton of clunkers.

[chizwiz]

Jon,

Great work there.  I'd give you a karma + point, but I don't know how.  Can anyone advise?

East Coast,

Did I pick sides?  I guess I did earlier by mentioning my support for EU.  But I definitely want to be less biased than the average fan, especially by having my facts straight.  I'm not quite sure what your complaint is.  Is there anything wrong with me having connections in the Cabrini faction in order to get inside information?

Scout,

You should heed your own words on being careful.  As far as my sources and knowledge go, I still haven't said anything major that is or was inaccurate.  Don't be surprised about the Dailey & Fitzgerald thing.  That's very new news, with some of it being rumor.  I think I made that clear by saying what was rumor and what I know to be true.  I would imagine, though, that your Cabrini education doesn't require you to have great reading comprehension.

[chizwiz]

Chiz:

Be careful what you say on this board.

I have heard nothing about what you posted regarding Dailey and Fitzgerald.

I do believe they would want dailey back not Fitzgerald.

If there is something going on then it should remain inside the Cabrini House until there is a decision, or if there is something going on.

Let things play out if something is going to happen. And I never said I spoke to Ben but he told people, just want the record straight.

You are confused if you think they wouldn't want Fitzy back at Cabrini.  He was a great player and a better kid.  But, you being a Cabrini guy, I'm sure you don't want talent or skill at the school, as you all have proven in the past with Dzik.

If there is something going on that's interesting, and I find out about it, I'm going to tell people about it.  That's the whole point to d3hoops.com.  What else are we supposed to talk about here, the Farmers' Almanac?  I'm not giving up my sources, but suffice it to say that they are very good and the facts will out.

[Coach K]

Jon,

Great work there.  I'd give you a karma + point, but I don't know how.  Can anyone advise?

East Coast,

Did I pick sides?  I guess I did earlier by mentioning my support for EU.  But I definitely want to be less biased than the average fan, especially by having my facts straight.  I'm not quite sure what your complaint is.  Is there anything wrong with me having connections in the Cabrini faction in order to get inside information?

Scout,

You should heed your own words on being careful.  As far as my sources and knowledge go, I still haven't said anything major that is or was inaccurate.  Don't be surprised about the Dailey & Fitzgerald thing.  That's very new news, with some of it being rumor.  I think I made that clear by saying what was rumor and what I know to be true.  I would imagine, though, that your Cabrini education doesn't require you to have great reading comprehension.

I hope it is true and Dailey would come back to Cabrini, regardless of whether their currnet coach is there or not. He would be a good addition for them