MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

If there is something going on that's interesting, and I find out about it, I'm going to tell people about it.  That's the whole point to d3hoops.com.  What else are we supposed to talk about here, the Farmers' Almanac?  I'm not giving up my sources, but suffice it to say that they are very good and the facts will out.

They had better be right because your posting privileges are on the line. Terms of Service demand published backup for your rumors.

[Coach K]

Not sure if I saw this on the MAC boards correctly, but is the PAC trying to lure Elizabethtown? Or for that matter any other schools besides Centenary and ND for girls?

[PacMan20]

Someone mentioned earlier something about Arcadia leaving the conference next year.  I knew Wesley was leaving but i did not hear about the earlier.  If this is true, what conference are they going too?

Does the PAC have any plans to replace these teams?
Are there any decent options out there?

[PacMan20]

With regards to Chizwiz's rumors, I will say that I can conform that these rumors have some credibility cause I have heard them from sources as well.  Whether the Cabrini players actually decide to make their stand against the coach is their decision, that is a big burden to place on players especially mid-season so one cant blame them if they decide to refraim until after the season.

There may be some people who have too much affiliation (i.e players, coaches)with certain programs that are active on this posting site.  I can't control what people do, but for those in this situation, it may be in your best interest to avoid making future postings cause the harm that it can cause may be regrettable.  Just my thoughts.

[Coach K]

PACMan20,

The break down is this

Arcadia and Wesley are each leaving the conference. Arcadia for the MAC, Wesley I believe for the Landmark Conference

The PAC has brought in Notre Dame of MD, an all women's college, as well as Centenary of NJ, currently competing in the Skyland Conference.

They will operate as a 9 team men's league and a 12 team Women's league.

I was curious because I thought someone mentioned E-town in one of their posts talking about going to the PAC. Anyone know if the PAC is trying to fill out to a 10th team, or if someone like Rosemont or ND is going Coed?

[Coach K]

Oh, and before I get into trouble, that is not rumor, that is published on the PAC website!

[Jon]

Coach K,

Arcadia to the MAC is correct.  Wesley is headed to the Capital Athletic Conference, not the Landmark.  Can't say that I've heard anything about Etown to the PAC before, Coach, do you have a link to where that conversation may have occured?

[Warren Thompson]

PACMan20,
I was curious because I thought someone mentioned E-town in one of their posts talking about going to the PAC.

If E-town is looking to leave the MAC, I can't see them entering the PAC. There are claims, bandied about earlier in MAC rooms, that they wanted into the Landmark, but were snubbed in favor of Scranton.

[chizwiz]

If there is something going on that's interesting, and I find out about it, I'm going to tell people about it.  That's the whole point to d3hoops.com.  What else are we supposed to talk about here, the Farmers' Almanac?  I'm not giving up my sources, but suffice it to say that they are very good and the facts will out.

They had better be right because your posting privileges are on the line. Terms of Service demand published backup for your rumors.

No sarcasm here or disrespect, Pat - how do I backup these statements sufficiently to meet the terms of service?

I do stand behind these statements, and am glad I listed certain things as rumor and others as fact.

[chizwiz]

With regards to Chizwiz's rumors, I will say that I can conform that these rumors have some credibility cause I have heard them from sources as well.  Whether the Cabrini players actually decide to make their stand against the coach is their decision, that is a big burden to place on players especially mid-season so one cant blame them if they decide to refraim until after the season.

There may be some people who have too much affiliation (i.e players, coaches)with certain programs that are active on this posting site.  I can't control what people do, but for those in this situation, it may be in your best interest to avoid making future postings cause the harm that it can cause may be regrettable.  Just my thoughts.

PacMan20, just FYI, I am neither a player, coach, or on the payroll of EU or any D3 school.

I do hope that you aren't discouraging me, or others, from posting things that we have found out before anyone else who writes for this site.

[PacMan20]

chizwiz

I wasn't referring to you. 

[PacMan20]

chizwiz

As I claimed above, I also heard both your rumored and factual information about Cabrini mentioned in a previous post.  My issue with that posting is that the situation at Cabrini seems to be bad enough already without the help of others.  What I mean by that is that I am almost certain that the current coach reads these postings.  The situation between the players and coach can only worsen if the coach realizes that players are going behind his back to initiate a change.  I'm not saying your information was wrong, but it may have been helpful if the information about the players, AD and assistant coach were withheld from posting.  That being said you have the right to post any factual evidence that you want, but just realize the possible consequences you may be causing. 

[Warren Thompson]

chizwiz:
... [Y]ou have the right to post any factual evidence that you want, but just realize the possible consequences you may be causing. 

Criticizing a coach or player or team (justified or not) in private is one thing. Same for broadcasting rumors and gossip.

Doing so in public has potentially different, more destructive, ramifications and ought not be done lightly or capriciously and without full awareness of what those ramifications might be.

[Pat Coleman]

If there is something going on that's interesting, and I find out about it, I'm going to tell people about it.  That's the whole point to d3hoops.com.  What else are we supposed to talk about here, the Farmers' Almanac?  I'm not giving up my sources, but suffice it to say that they are very good and the facts will out.

They had better be right because your posting privileges are on the line. Terms of Service demand published backup for your rumors.

No sarcasm here or disrespect, Pat - how do I backup these statements sufficiently to meet the terms of service?

I do stand behind these statements, and am glad I listed certain things as rumor and others as fact.

It's good you stand behind them but I don't think you'll be able to substantiate the rumors.

That's why we tend to take a dim view of them.

[chizwiz]

I guess I'm not too worried about trying to substantiate something that I have made clear is a rumor.  When prefaced with "this is a rumor", that means that it does not need to be substantiated because it is not being held to be true.  Maybe some of you need to be a little more knowledgeable about publishing norms.

The other things I said will show themselves and I won't need to back them up.

Warren, thanks for the advice.  By the way, I don't think my statements can be regarded as criticism.  They are more along the lines of:  this is what I heard, this is floating around the community, this is true, etc.

PacMan, the situation will not worsen if the coach knows people are going behind his back, it will actually help him to know this.  I've had this situation before as a manager, and me and my staff benefited from me finding out that some of them were talking about me.  A good manager, coach, whatever can handle this.  If Macciocca can't, then he is going to continue to have problems and the solution will become evident for all involved.

Plus, I really don't think that the AD and superiors at Cabrini use this forum to gather much information on their hiring or firing decisions.  (Sorry, Pat.)  Otherwise, Dzik would probably still be there.

Let's all take ourselves a little less seriously.