MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

Jon · February 12, 2007, 11:37:14 PM

http://athletics.alvernia.edu/Pdfs/mbball/2007/1/29/0607%20PAC%20MB%20Matrix.pdf

It's all up to date through Monday. Here's how I see for the next few days provided the only snow of the year doesn't completely mess us up. With second place on the line I don't see how GMC loses at home to Cabrini.

Eastern needs a win and a Neumann win for third place, otherwise it's fourth for the Eagles. Either way they're looking at a first round home game. (Remember this is all contingent on a GMC victory).

An IU win puts the Macs in third place. A loss and an EU loss still puts IU in third, but a loss and and EU win drops IU down to fifth behind Neumann.

The final spot is still a little too grey to get into short of me going into some sort of chizwizzian posting streak. Neumann looks pretty good in just about every tiebreaker, and Misericordia needs help from Marywood even if it wins in Dover on Thursday, but Arcadia needs help from Misericordia. Feels like and Excel formula error for circular reference.

Feel free to rework the matrix as many ways as you like between now and Thursday.

Happy Posting.

D3fan14 · February 13, 2007, 01:32:13 PM

All quiet on the PAC board front when Eastern is downed by 19 and Cabrini wins.

Good luck to all the teams duking it out for playoff advantages!

chairman · February 13, 2007, 03:02:41 PM

It's good to see that the Cavs have not been losing so long that their fans have forgotten how to gloat. Credit to Immac for a great shooting night. They hit tough shots and easy ones while only Johnson and Malloy couild shoot for the Eagles.
Finklea scored 9 of the Mighty Mac's first 14 points and was a big difference early. Snow in subuiuran Philly could lead to schedule changes as we try to unknot the mess that is 3-7 in the PAC.

chairman · February 13, 2007, 03:16:17 PM

One other interesting note on last night's game. Williams hit a 70 footer as time expired in the first half. In replaying the shot in my head, something didn't seem quite right. Then I realized what it was. Williams, who is right-handed, fired the line drive baseball style shot with his left hand. Pretty impressive really. Too bad the Eagles could not build on that coming out, but worth noting either way.

chizwiz · February 13, 2007, 10:54:37 PM

hoopz, I have to hand it to you. I think your picks for last night were very intuitive (and interesting, at that). I was unable to reach a computer, unfortunately. My picks for tomorrow and Thursday will follow soon.

chizwiz · February 13, 2007, 11:04:16 PM

I am completely confused by the possibilities of the PAC playoff spots right now. Does anybody know the rule for a three way tie if EU, Neumann, and Immac finish with 10-8?

chizwiz · February 13, 2007, 11:12:43 PM

My picks for the last game of the regular season:

Arcadia @ Marywood - Beaver College by 10. Grundman's guys are planning for Spring Break already.
Cabrini @ Gwynedd - Cavs by - 11.
Immaculata @ Neumann - Macs by 5. It would be just stupid to lose this one and give up the ability to host a PAC game.
Miseri @ Wesley - Wesley by 4. Come on, it's a tough road trip from anywhere!

hoopzwiz · February 14, 2007, 10:08:22 AM

Chiz, my picks weren't very accurate. Haven't seen enough PAC basketball I guess.
I like your picks for Thursday. The Cabrini pick surprises me but I obviously no nothing.

Quote from: chizwiz on February 13, 2007, 11:12:43 PM
My picks for the last game of the regular season:

Arcadia @ Marywood - Beaver College by 10. Grundman's guys are planning for Spring Break already.
Cabrini @ Gwynedd - Cavs by - 11.
Immaculata @ Neumann - Macs by 5. It would be just stupid to lose this one and give up the ability to host a PAC game.
Miseri @ Wesley - Wesley by 4. Come on, it's a tough road trip from anywhere!

chairman · February 14, 2007, 01:06:28 PM

Snow and ice push the EU -ALvernia game back to Thursday night. Jon, will youi be on call to announce the pairings as results roll in?

Jon · February 14, 2007, 01:20:04 PM

I'll be around with the laptop to post seeings as they clear up, but obviously nothing is official until released from the conference office.

#1 Alvernia

Jon · February 14, 2007, 10:00:56 PM

PAC Men's Basketball Matrix

I've added some notes to the Matrix and highlighted teams who hold head-to-head tiebreakers over others where it matters.

Here are the notes as I am able to deduce...I'm pretty sure I played out all scenerios.

GMC will obviously clinch second place with a win, but would also do it with an Eastern loss. A GMC loss and an Eastern win doesn't guarantee the Eagles second. They still need Neumann to win to avoid a 3-way tie with GMC and Immaculata. That 3-way tie, at 11-7, goes (2) GMC, (3) Imm, (4) Eastern.

If GMC loses, Eastern wins, and Neumann wins it goes (2) Eastern, (3) GMC, (4) Neumann, (5) Immaculata. (***this is the only scenario of which I am unsure...I'm assuming you break the H2H tie between Neumann and Immaculata before using either one to break the Eastern/GMC tie***)

If Eastern and Immaculata are both alone at 11-7 it also goes (2) GMC, (3) Imm, (4) Eastern. If Eastern and Immaculata are 10-8, that also means Neumann is 10-8. That 3-way goes (3) Immaculata, (4) Eastern, (5) Neumann.

Okay, let's bring in the nine-loss teams...if Neumann loses and joins the nine-loss teams it is (6) if Misericordia beats Wesley and (5) in all other situations. The Misericordia/Wesley winner is 9-9, the loser is out. As indicated before, Neumann is (5) in any 3-way tie at 9-9. 3-way, 9-9 ties will all also include Arcadia. If Wesley is involved it is (6) and Arcadia is out, if Misericordia is involved, Arcadia is (6) and Misericordia is out.

If Neumann wins and is out of the 9-9 mix the same holds as the above with Arcadia having the H2H over Misericordia and Wesley having the H2H over Arcadia.

chizwiz · February 15, 2007, 06:45:49 AM

Hoopz, I meant negative 11, as in the other team wins.

Jon, great job again on your work-up of the possibilities. Difficult to figure out, huh?

Do you think home court is really an advantage for the 3 and 4 seeds right now?

Jon · February 15, 2007, 10:58:44 AM

I made an update to the scenario post from yesterday when I received information from one of my sources. The 10-8, 3-way tie that features Immaculata (3-1 vs. other two), Eastern (2-2), and Neumann (1-3) will go in that order instead of what was posted yesterday.

lefty2 · February 15, 2007, 09:08:44 PM

Wesley (75) in, Misericordia (65) out.

Jon · February 15, 2007, 10:34:08 PM

PAC Men's Basketball Matrix

Scores are all posted on the scoreboard from tonight's action. I have the PAC Championship as...

1. Alvernia (16-2)
2. Gwynedd-Mercy (12-6)
3. Immaculata (10-8)
4. Eastern (10-8)
5. Neumann (10-8)
6. Wesley (9-9)