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chairman

Ahhhhhh.... lemon-lime Gatorade.

P. I think your post might just be an ET special. Who can forget last year's Eastern-Cabrini game for senior night, when in the recognition of a player, they took a pot shot at Dzik and his staff over the PA. Something to the effect of "After languishing on the bench for three years..."

ET did the coach no favors. He needed a filter not a megaphone.

chairman

Arcane tie-breaker
Quote from: Coach P on February 16, 2007, 11:40:02 PM

In 2005-06 "Coach Chuck" took a small team with equally small expectations and went 11-14 (8-10 in the PAC), tying for the sixth and final playoff spot in a 10-team league. Only the arcane tie-breaker formula kept the Cavs out of the postseason. (That and a pair of two-point losses to the defending champs.)


Their trademark became the never-say-die comeback, including a rally from 25 down to beat Marywood and a surge from 24 down to overtake Misericordia -- both on the road. 

"The thing I took away from Wake Forest," Macciocca declared, "is that everything you do, you do with a certain class. You don't just go out there and do the best you can. You go out there and strive for excellence. At Cabrini we have the potential to win a national title. That's what I want our guys to strive for in everything they do." .


I'm not sure that blaming the tie-breaker is really the way to go when you miss the playoffs with an 8-10 record. It kind of runs against the "in everything you do, you do it with a certain class..." idea.

Marty Shottenheimer is available.

Midnight tolls.

chizwiz

#932
chairman, quit blowing smoke up Macciocca's skirt.  This guy tried, but he failed.  We don't need to feel sorry for him or make excuses.  He had no clue how to handle his players, which is why they left him.  That had nothing to do with the situation he was in.  I hope, for the PAC's sake, that Cabrini can get a coach in who is going to win games.

He also couldn't coach, which became painfully obvious in his win/loss stats.  Maybe other coaches will learn from his bad example by treating their players without so many absolutes and without badmouthing predecessors and peers.  The PAC coaches know what I am talking about.

The ironic thing is that Cabrini just fired a guy who is as bad at what he does as they are.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

chizwiz

Quote from: heatlee on February 16, 2007, 09:12:08 PM
What Cabrini needs to do is hire someone within the Cabrini family.  Someone like Pat Zipfel.  He's been a head coach at Bucks County, at Centenary College where he took that team to an ECAC berth, and he is currently an advanced scout for an NBA team. He could take Cbrini back to the top. That's who they should hire.
Heatlee, there are plenty of good coaches out there, be they college or high school.  Getting one who is worth it to agree to work for Cabrini will be interesting.  My thought is that if he takes the job, he is either ignorant or just plain stupid.

But ignorance is bliss.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

heatlee

If Cabrini wants the BEST candidate for this job it has to be Zipfel.  He has more experience than Dzik had when he got the job. He was a DI assistant, head coach at a JUCO, is an NBA advanced scout, and he was asuccessful D3 coach and athletic director.  You throw in the fact that he is from the Cabrini family and its a no brainer.

WolfPAC

Quote from: heatlee on February 17, 2007, 07:25:28 AM
If Cabrini wants the BEST candidate for this job it has to be Zipfel.  He has more experience than Dzik had when he got the job. He was a DI assistant, head coach at a JUCO, is an NBA advanced scout, and he was asuccessful D3 coach and athletic director.  You throw in the fact that he is from the Cabrini family and its a no brainer.

Wishful thinking, but it ain't gonna happen. 

NOT UNTIL SHE IS GONE........  THE BEST candidate for the job would be none other than John Dzik himself.    Nothing will happen like this until the current administration is gone.  Zipfel has a life and is loyal to Dzik.  You must be crazy if you think he would consider Cabrini.

Now.... wouldn't it be feasible if the president was out of here and the administration got cleaned up in time for the school's leading basketball scorer to be ready to take over as a coach.  After all, those PAC championships back to back to back to back under Dzik with Bill were no fluke and he played ball at a higher level as well.   Would he not command the respect of players as well as earn the advice from former staff with regards to recruiting?


NOTHING WILL HAPPEN UNTIL SHE IS GONE........   IF CABRINI DOESN'T SELL THE PLACE FIRST .

THE PLACE NEEDS TO CLEAN UP ITS ADMINISTRATION BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT SHE IS IN CHARGE AND ANSWERS TO NO ONE BUT HERSELF.

WolfPAC

Quote from: chizwiz on February 17, 2007, 12:20:29 AM
Quote from: heatlee on February 16, 2007, 09:12:08 PM
What Cabrini needs to do is hire someone within the Cabrini family.  Someone like Pat Zipfel.  He's been a head coach at Bucks County, at Centenary College where he took that team to an ECAC berth, and he is currently an advanced scout for an NBA team. He could take Cbrini back to the top. That's who they should hire.
Heatlee, there are plenty of good coaches out there, be they college or high school.  Getting one who is worth it to agree to work for Cabrini will be interesting.  My thought is that if he takes the job, he is either ignorant or just plain stupid.

But ignorance is bliss.

Chiz,


I think you understand whoever you are.........

WolfPAC

Quote from: saratoga on February 16, 2007, 10:54:32 PM
Please bear with me PAC fans as I take a moment of your time on your board. The situation Cabrini currently finds itself in regard to firing their current coach after putting him in this job just two short but, seemingly long years ago was due to only one thing...your "current" President was unable to deal with the fact that a man the stature  of Coach Dzik may be looking over her shoulder & only because of her personal insecurities was he let go. Coach D & I met many years ago & at that time he mentioned how much he desired respect for this new conference and how he so much appreciated what Coach Bessoir had brought to the MAC & his wish was for the same fortunes for all PAC members. This man brought a purpose & a passion not only to the game...but more importantly, for the game and to his school. Cabrini is not a better place without Coach D...as a matter of fact, many in the world of academia would say Cabrini is currently aimlessly floating in that awkward space reserved for those special schools that may one day soon not see another entering freshman class. University's make changes all the time, it's when the changes made are for personal rather than professional growth...that the results can be devestating...Cabrini, under this current administration is on such a path.


Obviously Saratoga,   the president and administration is stupid, selfish, and naive.  They are sinking the ship.   It is horrible how they brainwash those new kids who have no clue.    Money and literature is the only thing they are successful with in terms of selling their campus not our campus.

Get her out.       Afterall, Dzik only recruited hoodlums and thugs in their minds.  What a pity ! ! ! !  She needs a lesson on life besides ivory towers and egotistical publications of her accomplishments using others.

Sickening.  The Cavs are falling behind even more and there is not a basketball program as far as I am concerned.   When she leaves I will be back stronger than ever as well.  The alumni will win someday.

Pull her out with pliers! ! ! !


   

WolfPAC


If Dzik was here.... Alvernia may not be gloating as well.  I am sick of hearing about them.   Back in the day Dzik had McCloskey's number and they could not beat us.  We spoiled their party every time.  In fact they were scared and intimidated by our fans and players.

How sickening ! !   Jon, you are OK though!!  Where is the passion of anyone left out there who can get her out of Cabrini.

Better do it fast before the ship totally sinks.

chairman

A Few exerpts from the Cabrini web site...

"Dr. Iadarola is responsible for nearly $100 million in capital improvements, including the Dixon Center, a 64,000-square-foot sports and recreation center, boasting the 1,500-seat Nerney Field House and a six-lane competition pool; the Hamilton Family Communications Center, a fully digital networked facility housing the College newspaper, magazine, broadcast FM radio station and video studio; renovation and construction of four residence halls, including West Residence Hall, which opened in August 2006; and the newly renovated Edith Robb Dixon Field, with synthetic playing surface and lighting for night games."

....she has led Cabrini from a good college to one that is extraordinary."

Stunning really. Do they teach a class in credit-taking at Cabrini? If she thinks two bricks of the Dixon center would have been put together without the success Dzik brought to the basketball program....

Chiz, no smoke. Just feel bad for a guy who didn't have a chance to succeed. All of us make mistakes when we are young and would like to think we grow from them. His just lasted two years and is talked about on D3 hoops.com.

Coach C

The only new guys who contributed were actually walk-ons.  Had the Dzik-era kids stayed, this team had playoff ability.  Players always leave when there is a coaching change, but when the new guy publicly denigrates the legendary prior coach and rips his players, it generally hastens their exit.  And ultimately HIS exit.

I've said enough on this sorry chapter in the Cabrini basketball history.  Who is taking the PAC championship and Pool A bid this year?

C

ps - Coach P - pretending to be someone else, even if it's an INSANE stretch is a violation of the TOS I am pretty sure.  What was the point of posting the dead guy's bio?

Coach K

Wow,

Looks like Cabrini has been a hot topic as usual on the board. Any word on any of the on the court action? Wesley losing to the Mighty Macs puts a big exclamation point on a disappointing season for Wesley. Sent to the CAC with a disappointing basketball season.

Any word on game #2?

chairman

K-
Eagles advance 77-67.

Huge game for Eastern's Matt Malloy. He hit just three field goals, but he scored 20 of his game high 22 in the second half and hit 15 straight foul shots in the second half to go with his 16 rebounds. Reels started for Coleman, who is 50-50 for Tuesday, and played well with 14 points. Eagles were 90% from the line. Johnson and Malloy were good on the boards, and DiMaria hit 9-10 from the line and hit some big shots from the field.

Eagles get their third shot at the Crusaders in a month.

One other note. Since no one else has posted a list for all- PAC, I am going to revise mine. Patrick is off the second team. He killed Neumann today. It was just that he shot 4 of 14, it was the overall demeanor of his terrible afternoon. Twice he slammed Eastern players into the scorers table, and he was constantly in his teammates faces after he would jack up and miss 24 footers. He was 0-3 from the line.

I'm unsure as to whether to push DelBrocco up, or just play with four on my second team, I think the other four would be better without him. Malloy looked like the returning veteran all-PAC player on the floor today.

Coach C

I'll be honest Chairman.  i would take DelBrocco on my team any day.  Makes no mistakes, understands what to do in the offense and plays good D.

Second team?  No doubt.

C

chairman

C-

I've only seen him play three times this year. He hit a big shot to close the game after disappearing in the second half against Arcadia, and had mixed results against EU. He was better in the first game when he didn't score.

You might be overvaluing his prowess at the defensive end. He is clearly one of the top 10 offensive players in the league, I will give you that.

I'm not out to start an argument on this one, and I would probably give him the nod over the other four kids I originally put on the HM list.

Is the rest of my group correct, or do you have another take on it?