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chizwiz

I am going to have to put R. Johnson on the 1st team.  While I don't rescind my statement of before, I never actually said that he shouldn't be on the 1st team.  I am bothered that his team did poorly this year and Wesley isn't returning and he is only a sophomore.

Here are my All-PAC selections:

COY: reserved for Friday night.  To say that Chadwin deserves it forgets that EU could still win the conference.  If EU wins it, then Nadelhoffer should get COY; if not, then Chadwin (or Miller) should get it.

1st Team:
Finger - Alvernia
Etzel - Alvernia
Shawell - Alvernia
R. Johnson - Wesley
M. Johnson - EU

2nd Team:
Finklea - Macs
Boettcher - Arcadia
Reid - Cabrini
DelBrocco - G-MC
Smith - G-MC

HM:
Baumunk - Miseri
DiMaria - EU
Malloy - EU
Hyman - Macs
Fritz - Neumann

POY - Finger
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

chizwiz

I have a couple waiting in the wings and a couple who could get knocked off depending on the last two nights of PAC playoffs.  Hyman and Malloy had better be careful!
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

chizwiz

Quote from: Coach C on February 17, 2007, 10:25:22 PM
I'll be honest Chairman.  i would take DelBrocco on my team any day.  Makes no mistakes, understands what to do in the offense and plays good D.

Second team?  No doubt.

C
C, while what you said about DelBrocco offensively is true and more, he really seems to get lost on D.  I don't think "good" is an appropriate adjective for him defensively.  I would lean more toward:  "he plays D", just like I play D and so did Bill Murray in Space Jam.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

chizwiz

Quote from: chairman on February 18, 2007, 03:45:34 PM
"Chiz wiz party of one? Chizwiz party of one? I've got a table...."

You cannot be serious with that last post. If you are going to need to identify the five players in front of him. You are basing too much on a flawed pre season poll and not enough on his actual play. He is one of a very small handful of players that everyone in the league gameplanned to stop, and he still led the league in scoring by a bunch.
Wesley underachieved this year because they struggled at the defensive end of the floor. If you want to hang that on him it is obvious that you did not see his team play this year. You could argue that he gets away witha lot a la Willie Chandler, but he has the ability to forcew turnovers and does quality work on the boards.
Who are your ten All-PAC players?
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Uhh, yes I was serious with that post.  Re-read it, English major.  By the way, did they teach reading comprehension to you where you went to college?  I never said he wouldn't or shouldn't, just that I wasn't sure.  Which means my mind wasn't made up.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

chizwiz

Quote from: PacMan20 on February 18, 2007, 03:18:16 AM
This has been said over and over again but I feel the need to repeat: There is no absolutely no way the cabrini 05-06 team should not have at least made the playoffs when looking at the players and talent on that team.  Maccoica was very inexperienced going into this job but lets hope he learned his lesson  and realizes his mistakes. 

On another note is there the possibility that the Cabrini job will go ful-time.  If so this will be a heavily pursued job.  Hopefully this time around they will hire a candidate with enough experience to jusify fulfilling such a prime job
PacMan, do you really think that Cabrini has learned their lesson?  I seriously doubt that they have.  Macciocca, while a bad coach in many ways, was just a bad extension of the flawed system.  Right now, they are probably going to find another "rebound" coach to help smooth things out.  If he ends up winning for them, great.  If not, then their next coach will probably be a bigger name.

Do you think any quality coach (alum or otherwise somewhat experienced with Cabrini) will take that job?  They obviously don't support their coaches.  They have stopped giving their athletes as many "academic" dollars.  They don't have the pull they used to for recruits or assistant coaches because of their bad reputation, which won't go away for a while.  Additionally, any prospective coach will most probably know about the alums not wanting to support the team.  I wouldn't take that job for full-time pay at the high end of d3 coaches.

It's going to be time or the admin going to other schools before a good coach gets in.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

chizwiz

By the way, why do people make this assumption that Macciocca is a good coach?  What did he do before Cabrini to prove it?

And what did he do at Cabrini to prove it?  He is the reason his team of great players became a team of good players with great players going elsewhere.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

chairman

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Chizwiz -
Thanks for posting a list. I love Mike Johnson's game when he brings it, but IMO you can't be a first teamer with invisible games. I have no problem with low scoring games, but I think the other numbers need to show up on those days. My opinion only, but I imagine one shared by most out there.
Finklea is the next guy if you are going to bump Boettcher. Hyman has come on very strong at the end of the year, but I think the second Immac kid has to be Jones.
Both games webcast tonight.

chizwiz

Quote from: chairman on February 20, 2007, 06:13:26 PM
Chizwiz -
Thanks for posting a list. I love Mike Johnson's game when he brings it, but IMO you can't be a first teamer with invisible games. I have no problem with low scoring games, but I think the other numbers need to show up on those days. My opinion only, but I imagine one shared by most out there.
Finklea is the next guy if you are going to bump Boettcher. Hymen has come on very strong at the end of the year, but I think the second Immac kid has to be Jones.
Both games webcast tonight.
mp
Chair,
First, please spell Jayson Hyman's name correctly in the future.
Second, not everybody has their average every time.  That's what is called a "range".  Mike Johnson has a "range" just like everybody else.  But let's look at his numbers:
7th in rebounding with 7.1 per; 3rd in assists, as a POST MAN!, at 4.2 per, with only Finger and Bush above him; 4th in steals; and 1st in blocks, nearly doubling the next guy, King.
Okay, who has better defense than Mike on paper?  Also, does he have to be tops in offensive statistics?  If people can get awards for being one-sided on offense, then they should get the same for defense.  Although he doesn't need the help for his offensive skills.  You, of all people, should know that Eastern's type of offense forces more players to contribute and doesn't allow for a star as much as others - more team oriented and pass it around.

Anyway, I'm now at that famed 200 posts.  What do I get for it?
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

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chairman

Two free throws in the whole first half of a game, and the crazy thing is those were by Shawell on a clean block by Johnson.  The officiating crew probably has an 8:15 appointment somewhere. Big run by Alvernia to close out the half.

chizwiz

"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

chairman

I agree with you on the range, but if you have a 2 point night, you need to be there with an 8 rebound, 2 steal, three block night. He's had too many nights with 0-4 points and less than impressive other areas to be a first teamer. I think he is a great player and a great kid, but a first team player needs to leave a mark on every game, and I don't think you would find anyone who has seen every Eastern game who would say that he has. I'll try to spell his last name correctly from now on.

Etzl is going to be player of the year in the Conference, but after seeing the Vern play for the third time, I will stick to my early contention that he is probably the third piece in a very good triangle. Shawell didn't start (too bad for Eastern that he got to play at all), and the Crusaders struggled a bit early. The presence of three very good three point shooters and three composed ball handlers is going to make Alvernia tough to beat. Shawell had three monster dunks and a spectacular reverse lay up. Division I athlete playing DIII basketball.

The whole second half was Alvernia grinding down the shot clock and getting the look they wanted with 4,5, or 6 on the shot clock. That's finger Etzl and a very  disciplined team. Congrats to Alvernia and Immaculata.

East Coast Eagle

I know this question has been asked before but I would like some clairification from people who know the answer. I was wodering if Coach N is a school teacher or worked at Eastern as another job complimentary to his coaching duties?

Tough loss for the Eagles tonight. Good things to come in the future.

chizwiz

Quote from: East Coast Eagle on February 21, 2007, 01:11:39 AM
I know this question has been asked before but I would like some clairification from people who know the answer. I was wodering if Coach N is a school teacher or worked at Eastern as another job complimentary to his coaching duties?

Tough loss for the Eagles tonight. Good things to come in the future.
This has been discussed, but my opposition never believed me.  You can believe what you want; it isn't a big deal.  Coach Nadelhoffer is a full time coach with other duties such as Game Coordinator for fall and spring season sports (making sure workers and equipment is ready) and Fitness Center Director.  He also teaches 1-2 classes each year for a little extra, but it is not required of him.  He is not a school teacher and doesn't work outside of Eastern.  Some of the other coaches at Eastern have similar setups, which do not require them to find other work outside of the university.  They have a savvy athletic director and vice president of student development who understand why this is important.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.

chizwiz

Chair, I think we'll have to agree to disagree on M. Johnson.  His stats are very, very strong for all but points.  Unfortunately, I don't think he will get first team as coaches (who are the ones voting) don't have the time to worry about things besides points.  I'm sure Shawell knows who owns him next year when he goes up for a dunk.  Let's remember that Shawell would have had 1 more dunk last night, but Mike made a collegiate block that somehow got called for a foul.

And I am not complaining about the officiating.  They do make mistakes sometimes.
"If you're not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain." - Churchill.