MBB: Colonial States Athletic Conference

[chizwiz]

Live by the sword, die by the sword for Lincoln.  Good luck in d2 land.

Again, Chestnut Hill to d2.  Another not-so-strong-academically school moving into familiar ranks.

[Warren Thompson]

Live by the sword, die by the sword for Lincoln.  Good luck in d2 land.

Again, Chestnut Hill to d2.  Another not-so-strong-academically school moving into familiar ranks.

Hey, wiz, just out of curiosity, with Lincoln and Chestnut Hill leaving D3, who'll you bash and badger next year? 

[cold_case]

Hey, wiz, just out of curiosity, with Lincoln and Chestnut Hill leaving D3, who'll you bash and badger next year? 

E-mail him a list of teams to choose from.

[chairman]

Warren, I'll take Neumann and give you the field. In all seriousness, can somebody explain to me what DII is. I've got chizwiz's theory, but I cannot figure out how Lincoln or Chestnut Hill stand to profit from the move.

[Warren Thompson]

Warren, I'll take Neumann and give you the field. In all seriousness, can somebody explain to me what DII is. I've got chizwiz's theory, but I cannot figure out how Lincoln or Chestnut Hill stand to profit from the move.

I think -- repeat, think -- I understand Lincoln's desire to go D2: scholarships permitted and a conference membership. As to Chestnut Hill, I'm at a complete loss. Until recently, this venue was an all-women institution.

As I see it, D2 is a "limbo" somewhere in between D1 bottom-feeders and wannabes and D3. (Of course, I likely don't know the whole truth about the merits, whatever they might be, of this division.)

[Coach K]

With Alvernia... and possibly Miseri leaving... does the PAC tap into the NEAC and try to lure in Baptist Bible, Keystone, PSU Berks, or one of those other schools? From the standpoint of losing representation in the Scranton Wilkes-Barre area and Reading, at least two of the schools on that list would make some sense.

[chizwiz]

Warren, chill.  I with you on what you said about d2 schools and Chestnut Hill.  I was only really giving it to njlincoln because he was spouting off from the get-go.

D2 is a joke.  I'm just one of the only ones willing to say what everybody is thinking.  Subpar academics and barely scholarship level athletics.

On to other things - Who wins the PAC next year?

[Warren Thompson]

I was only really giving it to njlincoln because he was spouting off from the get-go.

RE: "spouting off from the get-go"? You don't get around much, do you? In other rooms, there's an infinite number of examples of genuine "spouting off," a goodly portion of them banal, infantile, ill-informed, and commonly just plain stupid; "njlincoln," as you call him, was merely defending his alma mater.

[chairman]

K-

PSU-Berks is very unlikely for a lot of reasons, but the first biggest reason is that they are really outside the league demographic. My opinion is that the admission of a public institution would not fly on a Presidential level, which is where those decisions are made.

The other two, along with PBU, will likely be considered.

[chizwiz]

I was only really giving it to njlincoln because he was spouting off from the get-go.

RE: "spouting off from the get-go"? You don't get around much, do you? In other rooms, there's an infinite number of examples of genuine "spouting off," a goodly portion of them banal, infantile, ill-informed, and commonly just plain stupid; "njlincoln," as you call him, was merely defending his alma mater.

So . . . then . . . I guess you don't want anyone in this room to do any trash-talking.  I'm just having fun.  Are we also not allowed to do that?  With your infinite wisdom, please, tell us all the things we are to do and not do, oh great d3hoops master.  Get over yourself, Warren.

[Pat Coleman]

Chiz,

Get over your OWN self, please. Warren is right. You overreacted to a poster who is pretty darn classy and knows where his institution's place is in the D-III world.

[Ralph Turner]

Warren, I'll take Neumann and give you the field. In all seriousness, can somebody explain to me what DII is. I've got chizwiz's theory, but I cannot figure out how Lincoln or Chestnut Hill stand to profit from the move.

Let me step right in.

Lincoln is getting to join a conference of peer institutions.  Lincoln was a charter member of the CIAA early in the last century.  This is a big move for the alums, who may remember previous contests with old rivals.

As much problem as I can see with D2, the old "neither fish nor foul" conundrum,  I affirm the strong conference model when it is applied in situations such as this.

We in D3 were not necessarily lining up "with roses and chocolates" for Lincoln to join any of the conferences that have been expanding/ forming/ shuffling in the last decade in the Pennsylvania/Mid-Atlantic regions, to wit, the North East AC, the Landmark, the Capital, the MAC-Freedom, the MAC-Commonwealth, the Pennsylvania AC and even the Pres AC, the Allegheny Mountain CC and the Skyline.

I applaud the President and the Lincoln Board for their foresight.  (I just wonder when Fisk will move to join the (D2) Southern IAA.)

[Warren Thompson]

Pat:

Oh, for the good old days of certain posters in the MAC Freedom room. They were crazy, they were immature, they were off the wall, they were improperly potty-trained, they were ... they were ... they were, well, whatever they were, they were entertaining in a certain middle-school sort of way.

[cold_case]

Pat:

Oh, for the good old days of certain posters in the MAC Freedom room. They were crazy, they were immature, they were off the wall, they were improperly potty-trained, they were ... they were ... they were, well, whatever they were, they were entertaining in a certain middle-school sort of way.

I could say I resent that remark or I could ask which room in your house is your degree from Oxford hanging.
I'll say nor ask. Or did I already do both?

[chizwiz]

Chiz,

Get over your OWN self, please. Warren is right. You overreacted to a poster who is pretty darn classy and knows where his institution's place is in the D-III world.

Soon to be in the d2 world . . .

Anyway, still wondering what anybody thinks about who wins the PAC next year.